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The problem in this country is with the politicians
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-12 17:20:03 UTC
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Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the politicians."

The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also his neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office. “Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change their situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their minds, I tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-devastation-left-isis-iraqis-vote-hoping-better-future-152125456.html

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abelard
2018-05-12 17:26:36 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the politicians."
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also his neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office. “Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change their situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their minds, I tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
what ever allah wills!
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-devastation-left-isis-iraqis-vote-hoping-better-future-152125456.html
I'm disillusioned but perhaps I must change my mind by having no illusions. No illusions about solutions. Once U believe Jesus is coming soon... Well, I don't. I live reality. How the Iraqis got disillusioned so quickly? Too much corruption?
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johnny-knowall
2018-05-12 18:06:18 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 May 2018 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with
the politicians."
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also
his neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in
office. “Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to
change their situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to
change their minds, I tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will
happen.’”
what ever allah wills!
Has Prince William turned to islam?
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-devastation-left-isis-iraqis-vote-hoping-bet
ter-future-152125456.html
I'm disillusioned but perhaps I must change my mind by having no illusions.
No illusions about solutions. Once U believe Jesus is coming soon... Well,
I don't. I live reality. How the Iraqis got disillusioned so quickly? Too
much corruption?
Jesus is dead, and an actor is playing his part.
abelard
2018-05-12 18:26:22 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 May 2018 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with
the politicians."
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also
his neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in
office. “Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to
change their situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to
change their minds, I tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will
happen.’”
what ever allah wills!
Has Prince William turned to islam?
depends on what his alleged daddy says...or his step mummy
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-devastation-left-isis-iraqis-vote-hoping-bet
ter-future-152125456.html
I'm disillusioned but perhaps I must change my mind by having no illusions.
No illusions about solutions. Once U believe Jesus is coming soon... Well,
I don't. I live reality. How the Iraqis got disillusioned so quickly? Too
much corruption?
Jesus is dead, and an actor is playing his part.
just as long a it isn't a reporter
--
www.abelard.org
johnny-knowall
2018-05-12 19:50:49 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 May 2018 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with
the politicians."
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also
his neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in
office. “Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to
change their situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to
change their minds, I tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will
happen.’”
what ever allah wills!
Has Prince William turned to islam?
depends on what his alleged daddy says...or his step mummy
Well his mummy didn’t fare too well when she allowed one to remove her
nikkers and get intimate...
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-devastation-left-isis-iraqis-vote-hoping-b
et
ter-future-152125456.html
I'm disillusioned but perhaps I must change my mind by having no illusions.
No illusions about solutions. Once U believe Jesus is coming soon... Well,
I don't. I live reality. How the Iraqis got disillusioned so quickly? Too
much corruption?
Jesus is dead, and an actor is playing his part.
just as long a it isn't a reporter
It might be Kevin Spacey...
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 02:10:23 UTC
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It is not always fair to just blame the politicians, you have to blame
the dumb fuck's that voted for the politicians.
It is likely the dumbf-cks had two equally abysmal choices on the ballot.
I think I heard of such situation in another place.
I bet all those who supported the war --"support the troops" stickers and flags-- don't have a clue of how's democracy in Iraq, nor do they care. BS is cheap.
abelard
2018-05-13 08:20:47 UTC
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On Sat, 12 May 2018 19:10:23 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
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It is not always fair to just blame the politicians, you have to blame
the dumb fuck's that voted for the politicians.
It is likely the dumbf-cks had two equally abysmal choices on the ballot.
I think I heard of such situation in another place.
I bet all those who supported the war --"support the troops" stickers and flags-- don't have a clue of how's democracy in Iraq, nor do they care. BS is cheap.
yeah...democracy is either there...or not there eh...
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 13:54:53 UTC
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Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the politicians."
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature. The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
johnny-knowall
2018-05-13 14:03:48 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the
politicians."
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature. The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I think many politicians realise that they can get paid for doing as little
as possible, once they have been elected.

They don’t even have to attend debates, and can sit reading constituents’
emails all day if they like, with a few intervals to visit the subsidised
restaurants and bars. As long as they have a private room to sleep off the
liquid lunch - they can pretend they are doing very important work until it
is time to get the (expenses paid) taxi home.

Rinse and repeat, hopefully for 5 years.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 15:01:06 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the
politicians."
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature. The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I think many politicians realise that they can get paid for doing as little
as possible, once they have been elected.
They don’t even have to attend debates, and can sit reading constituents’
emails all day if they like, with a few intervals to visit the subsidised
restaurants and bars. As long as they have a private room to sleep off the
liquid lunch - they can pretend they are doing very important work until it
is time to get the (expenses paid) taxi home.
Rinse and repeat, hopefully for 5 years.
Easy life, big money, popularity... It's all possible when U become a politician.
johnny-knowall
2018-05-13 16:05:56 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with the
politicians."
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but
also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change
their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their
minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature. The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I think many politicians realise that they can get paid for doing as little
as possible, once they have been elected.
They don’t even have to attend debates, and can sit reading constituents’
emails all day if they like, with a few intervals to visit the subsidised
restaurants and bars. As long as they have a private room to sleep off the
liquid lunch - they can pretend they are doing very important work until it
is time to get the (expenses paid) taxi home.
Rinse and repeat, hopefully for 5 years.
Easy life, big money, popularity... It's all possible when U become a politician.
I bet most of them have rigged up a hammock in their office. They can
probably claim on expenses for it, and for their viagra; which is needed when
they summon their researcher to assist them.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 16:17:39 UTC
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Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with
the
politicians."
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but
also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to change
their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their
minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature.
The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I think many politicians realise that they can get paid for doing as little
as possible, once they have been elected.
They don’t even have to attend debates, and can sit reading constituents’
emails all day if they like, with a few intervals to visit the subsidised
restaurants and bars. As long as they have a private room to sleep off the
liquid lunch - they can pretend they are doing very important work until it
is time to get the (expenses paid) taxi home.
Rinse and repeat, hopefully for 5 years.
Easy life, big money, popularity... It's all possible when U become a politician.
I bet most of them have rigged up a hammock in their office. They can
probably claim on expenses for it, and for their viagra; which is needed when
they summon their researcher to assist them.
And the black SUV with tinted windows to complement their status. They hide after being elected.

A small fraction of the people elect them so they have a mandate. I think it's something like 15% at the local level and they cater to that fraction.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/state-local-politics/299565-voting-for-mayor-is-more-important-than-voting-for
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 16:26:29 UTC
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That is just what Islamic Sharia law calls for -
the abolition of voting and the rule by religious
elders who "follow the truth". Are secretly a
muslim?
He still misses Red China, where politics was never about
choices.
China a hybrid system now where people have the choice to become rich or not, just don't mess with the Communist Party. Isn't that what life is all about? When U R rich, U don't care who's in power.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 16:35:35 UTC
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A small fraction of the people elect them so they have a mandate. I think it's something like 15% at the local level and they cater to that fraction.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/state-local-politics/299565-voting-for-mayor-is-more-important-than-voting-for
"In most major cities, fewer than 15 percent of voters turn out to cast a ballot for mayor"

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/11/in-the-us-almost-no-one-votes-in-local-elections/505766/

So a fraction of the people determines whether your community is happy or crappy. Why they still call it democracy and not hypocrisy?
johnny-knowall
2018-05-13 18:08:22 UTC
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On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:17:40 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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A small fraction of the people elect them so they have a mandate. I think
it's something like 15% at the local level and they cater to that fraction.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/state-local-politics/299565-voting-for
-mayor-is-more-important-than-voting-for
"In most major cities, fewer than 15 percent of voters turn out to cast a ballot for mayor"
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/11/in-the-us-almost-no-one-votes-in-local-
elections/505766/
So a fraction of the people determines whether your community is happy or
crappy. Why they still call it democracy and not hypocrisy?
They like to hide behind smoke and mirrors.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 21:03:00 UTC
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On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:17:40 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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A small fraction of the people elect them so they have a mandate. I think
it's something like 15% at the local level and they cater to that fraction.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/state-local-politics/299565-voting-for
-mayor-is-more-important-than-voting-for
"In most major cities, fewer than 15 percent of voters turn out to cast a
ballot for mayor"
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/11/in-the-us-almost-no-one-votes-in-local-
elections/505766/
So a fraction of the people determines whether your community is happy or
crappy. Why they still call it democracy and not hypocrisy?
They like to hide behind smoke and mirrors.
It's all an illusion. Some people do know the game and play it hard to get what they want. Expect lawyers and doctors to rule over the working the class. Corporations have total control. The elderly vote to hang on to their benefits.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 21:04:31 UTC
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I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
Isn't that what people demand? Isn't hope what the electorate is in the
market
for? Power brokers need, by definition, to be catered to. Turn society
upside
down with a revolution and you, at most, trade one set of power brokers for
another.
There's an old saying that if Satan ever defeats and replaces God, he will
find
it necessary to become divine. Guess that works the other way arround.
Wait, if we R talking about "democracy," then it's WE THE PEOPLE who count.
But you aren't "THE PEOPLE". There is no THE PEOPLE, there's just people, some
of them more apt to try for power than others.
Only in a monarchy, not in democracy. Democracy says the common people count and do cast a vote. Here's the idle elderly people who take advantage of the vote. They R the most unfit!
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-14 01:06:19 UTC
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China a hybrid system now where people have the choice to become rich or not, just don't mess with the Communist Party. Isn't that what life is all about? When U R rich, U don't care who's in power.
Then you will be happy to stop speaking out about
whatever is near and dear to you.
That they prevent me from speaking out, instead of complaining and being ignored, would save me a lot of aggravation.

Bottom line is that they listen or give U what want. I've been watching documentaries about Cuba and the elderly may actually be happier walking and socializing with a fraction of the income of America.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-14 01:12:09 UTC
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Although most in the West equate voting with "real democracy." But voting,
or representative democracy through voted leader is, after all, not real
democracy, aka, direct democracy. Voting is but a way to confer a political
system democratic favor. Such attempt to achieve democracy could be called
election-driven democratization. Another approach to make a system more a
real democracy is governance-driven democratization.
It takes people in power finding out what the real people want. For example, they may decide that people need public transportation or not. Our elites in America have decided we don't need bullet trains.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-14 01:49:54 UTC
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Although most in the West equate voting with "real democracy." But voting,
or representative democracy through voted leader is, after all, not real
democracy, aka, direct democracy. Voting is but a way to confer a political
system democratic favor. Such attempt to achieve democracy could be called
election-driven democratization. Another approach to make a system more a
real democracy is governance-driven democratization.
It takes people in power finding out what the real people want. For example, they may decide that people need public transportation or not. Our elites in America have decided we don't need bullet trains.
Democracy doesn't deliver bullet trains, livable communities or safe bike paths, but it allows U to complain. Then people look at U funny like "What's wrong with this guy?" Or U may write a letter to your commissioner and pray he answers. I don't even bother.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-14 02:50:02 UTC
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It takes people in power finding out what the real people want. For example, they may decide that people need public transportation or not. Our elites in America have decided we don't need bullet trains.
Democracy doesn't deliver bullet trains, livable communities or safe bike paths, but it allows U to complain. Then people look at U funny like "What's wrong with this guy?" Or U may write a letter to your commissioner and pray he answers. I don't even bother.
It's probably better to complain here. U know what's the average speed of the train in Cuba? Something like 30 miles (or km) an hour. And people R happy! (or maybe they R not). I have a good documentary of the trains in Cuba but I think I posted it the other day. The British presenter actually celebrates the fact that they work at all. I took the train from NYC-Miami and it wasn't funny. Hey, driving may be even worse, something like 24 hours and risk getting tickets along the way. And the plane is too much control and stress.

What U really need is people, parks and safe roads. Sitting is not good for U --or me. That's how democracy is killing us. I'm happy with a bike and people around me. Living communities is my priority. The city of Hialeah, for example, is a desert. If my community is crappy, I rate democracy crappy. My community is like Syria now and it will be that way for a long time. Not that they'll make it livable. Maybe better for pedestrians but not bicyclists. Pedestrians R the "untouchables" and rely on dysfunctional buses. At least the untouchables in India have contact with other people. Their trains R crowded, yes, but they have fun, I think. I'd have fun on the subway in NYC, but has to do with my visual messages that spell fun.
johnny-knowall
2018-05-14 08:05:25 UTC
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I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the
real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power
brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
Isn't that what people demand? Isn't hope what the electorate is in the
market
for? Power brokers need, by definition, to be catered to. Turn society
upside
down with a revolution and you, at most, trade one set of power brokers for
another.
There's an old saying that if Satan ever defeats and replaces God, he will
find
it necessary to become divine. Guess that works the other way arround.
Wait, if we R talking about "democracy," then it's WE THE PEOPLE who count.
But you aren't "THE PEOPLE". There is no THE PEOPLE, there's just people, some
of them more apt to try for power than others.
Only in a monarchy, not in democracy. Democracy says the common people count
and do cast a vote. Here's the idle elderly people who take advantage of the
vote. They R the most unfit!
If you find the elderly are holding back society with their idleness and
demand for benefits, you could always have them shot.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-14 23:36:37 UTC
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If you find the elderly are holding back society with their idleness and
demand for benefits, you could always have them shot.
No I won't. I'm 63 and I'll make them stronger. Moderate exercise is an essential part of the aging process. All we get is sedentary life, crappy food and isolation. I'm addressing a certain type of elderly who sells their vote to corrupt politicians.

"WE WILL HAVE THE YOUNGEST and oldest warriors in the world, say 2 to 92, everybody is covered. Corrupt politicians use the elderly, making them vote for politics without a future. May I remind the elderly that their grandchildren would not approve of them ignoring climate change? We must deliver quality of life to the very young and the very old, both of them loving the trike and the bike."

This is a revolution of the mind. WE NEED QUALITY OF LIFE. They R keeping the elderly alive but sick and dysfunctional. It used to be the Wise Elders were revered, but nowadays politicians lavish gifts on them which rarely translate into well being. Some middleman keeps the big chunk, whether it's the medical industry or some other industry. I have plenty of evidence.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-15 19:13:34 UTC
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On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 1:19:02 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey,
The problem in this country is with the politicians...
That's the problem in every country which can be corrected by
reverting to the earliest electoral system of no political party, no
fraction politics....
Politics will always be factional until it can serve and follow the
truth again instead of hijacking and distorting the truth.
I disagree.....
What's the bigger problem, the people that vote or that don't vote?

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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-16 06:20:57 UTC
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What's the bigger problem, the people that vote or that don't vote?
is this the right question to ask?
maybe the question to ask is: are people "woke", or are they plain dumb?
The dumb vote, and the smart won't.

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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-16 20:51:54 UTC
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The dumb vote, and the smart won't.
do the smart people have an evolutionary advantage, since their
reproduction strategies tend to emphasise quality over quantity?
Since there is a preponderance of dumb people (dumb people fuck more and
reproduce more, as they adopt the "spray and pray" strategy), whether or
not the smart vote, would it matter?
in that case, how to fight the Rotchild and Satanists?
The hope lies in the proles and the kids.

Free bananas for them.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-16 21:13:41 UTC
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The dumb vote, and the smart won't.
do the smart people have an evolutionary advantage, since their
reproduction strategies tend to emphasise quality over quantity?
Since there is a preponderance of dumb people (dumb people fuck more and
reproduce more, as they adopt the "spray and pray" strategy), whether or
not the smart vote, would it matter?
in that case, how to fight the Rotchild and Satanists?
The hope lies in the proles and the kids.
Free bananas for them.
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
The dumb vote, and the smart won't.
do the smart people have an evolutionary advantage, since their
reproduction strategies tend to emphasise quality over quantity?
Since there is a preponderance of dumb people (dumb people fuck more and
reproduce more, as they adopt the "spray and pray" strategy), whether or
not the smart vote, would it matter?
in that case, how to fight the Rotchild and Satanists?
The hope lies in the proles and the kids.
Free bananas for them.
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johnny-knowall
2018-05-13 18:06:50 UTC
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"Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
Sounds like America, but it's Iraq: "The problem in this country is with
the
politicians."
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The disillusionment is profound, but Abdullah is hopeful that an
earnest
campaign will restore not only some trust in the political process but
also his
neighbors’ faith in politics — by seeing one of their own in
office.
“Most people didn’t believe I’m this election’s ability to
change
their
situation,” Abdullah tells Yahoo News. “But I try to change their
minds, I
tell them, ‘The decision is yours about what will happen.’”
I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are
not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human
nature.
The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the
real
ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power
brokers
and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate
candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I think many politicians realise that they can get paid for doing as little
as possible, once they have been elected.
They don’t even have to attend debates, and can sit reading constituents’
emails all day if they like, with a few intervals to visit the subsidised
restaurants and bars. As long as they have a private room to sleep off the
liquid lunch - they can pretend they are doing very important work until it
is time to get the (expenses paid) taxi home.
Rinse and repeat, hopefully for 5 years.
Easy life, big money, popularity... It's all possible when U become a politician.
I bet most of them have rigged up a hammock in their office. They can
probably claim on expenses for it, and for their viagra; which is needed when
they summon their researcher to assist them.
And the black SUV with tinted windows to complement their status. They hide
after being elected.
A small fraction of the people elect them so they have a mandate. I think
it's something like 15% at the local level and they cater to that fraction.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/state-local-politics/299565-voting-for-m
ayor-is-more-important-than-voting-for
IMO they cater more for the folk who cater for them, (in the free hospitality
catering at theatre and sports events variation of the word) rather than
those who vote for them.

Free tickets to the Royal Box, sir? Well certainly, thankyou; and you can be
sure your grossly polluting garbage incinerator plans will be passed by my
office, despite the 250,000 signature protest petition.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2018-05-13 14:58:56 UTC
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I think maybe people expect too much from politicians. Politicians are not
omnipotent. They can't change the rules of economics, or of human nature. The
law of unintended consequences applies to almost everything they do.
I think the politicians R either fake or real, but along the process the real ones learn to fake it. Once they R in power, they cater to the power brokers and by the time the people realize what's going on, the next candidate candidate comes around with new promises. They R selling hope.
I may use here a metaphor of what's wrong with politics: The Titanic is sailing full steam across the Atlantic while some try to slow it down. People R told not to mention "iceberg" because the ship is unsinkable. It's better to cruise along and forget about any collision course. The upper classes R drunk and the poor R just plain powerless to do anything about it.

A good pilot knows how to save his ship. Trump ignores the iceberg while Putin is doing a good job. The other path is the one of Germany, a better democracy. Oh, many people think Jesus will save the ship.
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