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Putin poisons again
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Byker
2018-03-06 19:17:09 UTC
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"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/05/alleged-former-russian-spy-critically-exposure-unknown-substance/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/mar/06/russian-spy-incident-counter-terrorist-police-investigate-live-updates

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/06/591136097/britain-warns-moscow-over-poisoning-of-ex-russian-double-agent
johnny-knowall
2018-03-06 19:35:19 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/05/alleged-former-russian-spy-critica
lly-exposure-unknown-substance/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/mar/06/russian-spy-incident-counte
r-terrorist-police-investigate-live-updates
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/06/591136097/britain-warns-mos
cow-over-poisoning-of-ex-russian-double-agent
Don’t you think this blanket coverage of two druggies posing on a shopping
centre bench, just rather too good to be true?

At the very least it is an insult to all the genuine homeless druggies, who
can sit on a park bench for years and not be noticed by the filth, unless
there are arrest quotas to be reached.

It is pathetic media manipulation, just as an exercise to see how effective
the UK establishment propaganda machine is working.
Mr. B1ack
2018-03-07 02:11:59 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
abelard
2018-03-07 13:29:18 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
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Mr. B1ack
2018-03-07 13:59:12 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a
park bench these days without Putin being involved.
abelard
2018-03-07 14:10:32 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a
park bench these days without Putin being involved.
watch late night police programs..never a mention of pootin
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Mr. B1ack
2018-03-07 14:38:10 UTC
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Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a
park bench these days without Putin being involved.
watch late night police programs..never a mention of pootin
Just trying to prevent a panic ..... :-)
Incubus
2018-03-07 14:35:31 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Mr. B1ack
Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw
parallels to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of
radioactive polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris
Johnson warned on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if
it emerged that a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a park bench these days
without Putin being involved.
Putin is apparently a busy man. He engineered Britain's exit from the EU,
delivered the Whitehouse to Donald Trump, fights proxy wars in Syria, hacks
governemnt computers, funds an army of on-line trolls to subvert democracy and
orders assassinations of people who could cause him embarrassment.

I'm suprised he has time for breakfast.
Mr. B1ack
2018-03-07 14:45:41 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:35:31 -0000 (UTC), Incubus
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Post by abelard
Post by Mr. B1ack
Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw
parallels to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of
radioactive polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris
Johnson warned on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if
it emerged that a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a park bench these days
without Putin being involved.
Putin is apparently a busy man. He engineered Britain's exit from the EU,
delivered the Whitehouse to Donald Trump, fights proxy wars in Syria, hacks
governemnt computers, funds an army of on-line trolls to subvert democracy and
orders assassinations of people who could cause him embarrassment.
I'm suprised he has time for breakfast.
I'm surprised he has the time to pose for
his "Shirtless Vlad" calendars .....

It really has become ridiculous. If Putin has his
fingers expertly in every pie he's accused of
meddling with he and Russia WOULD totally
control the world by now. Listen to the doom-
sayers and Putin is even more skilled and
powerful than those sneaky Jews their
grandfathers used to say ran the planet.

The Americans and Euros are perfectly capable
of royally fucking things up all by themselves ...
Russia is not required.
Ophelia
2018-03-07 16:25:09 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Mr. B1ack
Post by Byker
"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw
parallels to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of
radioactive polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris
Johnson warned on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if
it emerged that a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
sounds more like a bute type substance...so far
Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a park bench these days
without Putin being involved.
Putin is apparently a busy man. He engineered Britain's exit from the EU,
delivered the Whitehouse to Donald Trump, fights proxy wars in Syria, hacks
governemnt computers, funds an army of on-line trolls to subvert democracy
and
orders assassinations of people who could cause him embarrassment.

I'm suprised he has time for breakfast.
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Superman!!!
Handsome Jack
2018-03-07 17:16:38 UTC
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Putin is apparently a busy man. He engineered Britain's exit from the EU,
delivered the Whitehouse to Donald Trump, fights proxy wars in Syria, hacks
governemnt computers, funds an army of on-line trolls to subvert democracy and
orders assassinations of people who could cause him embarrassment.
Have you forgotten how he personally shot down that airliner over
Ukraine, and was then seen feasting on the roasted corpses of the child
victims?
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Jack
george152
2018-03-07 19:39:36 UTC
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Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a
park bench these days without Putin being involved.
Especially if they were a double agent against Putin and Putins idea of
his dynasty.
Oh and the daughter... no doubt you'll have a reason for Putin killing
bystanders and family.
The video of them walking through the mall just minutes before they were
found on the park bench showed they were not drunk!

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#BeamMeUpScotty
2018-03-07 20:49:43 UTC
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    Apparently nobody can be found passed-out on a
    park bench these days without Putin being involved.
Especially if they were a double agent against Putin and Putins idea of
his dynasty.
Oh and the daughter... no doubt you'll have a reason for Putin killing
bystanders and family.
The video of them walking through the mall just minutes before they were
found on the park bench showed they were not drunk!
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I fell asleep on a park bench and when I woke up Putin was sitting next
to me..... this could be some real shit.
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Remember when Obama said "that's NOT who we are" well *this is* who
Democrats are.....
Oleg Smirnov
2018-03-07 21:02:53 UTC
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I fell asleep on a park bench and when I woke up Putin was sitting next
to me..... this could be some real shit.
Russia's election is March 18, while today is 7.

There still are 10 more days for something else to happen.
Byker
2018-03-08 00:07:00 UTC
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I fell asleep on a park bench and when I woke up Putin was sitting next
to me..... this could be some real shit.
Russia's election is March 18, while today is 7.
There still are 10 more days for something else to happen.
Vlad's hired goons could try something that's a little less obvious:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.c922d0f58a39

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/world/europe/russia-spy-nerve-agent.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/07/europe/russian-spy-nerve-agent-intl/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-ex-spy-sergei-skripal-his-daughter-poisoned-nerve-agent-n854516

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/07/591584976/british-police-say-nerve-agent-was-used-to-poison-russian-ex-spy-sergei-skripal
Oleg Smirnov
2018-03-08 16:10:32 UTC
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Russia's election is March 18, while today is 7.
<http://tinyurl.com/yakc274w> dailymail.co.uk

.. Home Secretary Amber Rudd told .. that enormous resources are being
directed at trying to figure out who might be responsible .. ".. People
are right to want to know who to hold to account. But if we are to be
rigorous in this investigation we must avoid speculation and allow the
police to carry on their investigation." ..

...

It's already late to warn about speculations. The British top officials
had already pointed their finger at 'Russia'. If turns out not to be so,
then they will have to face face-saving issues, so the UK authorities will
try to adjust the investigation in order to make it fitting the already
preestablished narrative. So it makes any further investigation pointless,
because its credibility has already been undermined, and now it all boils
down mainly to PR manipulations. It resembles the Litvinenko case, where
was no proper criminal investigation and trial, a part of materials was
classified, and the main effect was achieved through the mass media noise.

From the perspective of the common sense, the Kremlins, currently, are
heavily preoccupied about the Russian upcoming election's legitimacy and
good-looking, and all this noise is pretty bad for them.

Given this consideration as well as the record of the recent UK-related
machinations aimed at antagonizing Russia, I would rather tend to suspect
that the incident is a psyop implemented by some shadow group or MI5.
abelard
2018-03-08 17:17:28 UTC
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Russia's election is March 18, while today is 7.
<http://tinyurl.com/yakc274w> dailymail.co.uk
.. Home Secretary Amber Rudd told .. that enormous resources are being
directed at trying to figure out who might be responsible .. ".. People
are right to want to know who to hold to account. But if we are to be
rigorous in this investigation we must avoid speculation and allow the
police to carry on their investigation." ..
...
It's already late to warn about speculations. The British top officials
had already pointed their finger at 'Russia'.
don't your worry smeary...pootin will stand up for you against
those nasty brits on their small island
and he'll murder all his mafia rivals while waving the rooshian flag
Post by Oleg Smirnov
If turns out not to be so,
then they will have to face face-saving issues, so the UK authorities will
try to adjust the investigation in order to make it fitting the already
preestablished narrative. So it makes any further investigation pointless,
because its credibility has already been undermined, and now it all boils
down mainly to PR manipulations. It resembles the Litvinenko case, where
was no proper criminal investigation and trial, a part of materials was
classified, and the main effect was achieved through the mass media noise.
From the perspective of the common sense, the Kremlins, currently, are
heavily preoccupied about the Russian upcoming election's legitimacy and
good-looking, and all this noise is pretty bad for them.
Given this consideration as well as the record of the recent UK-related
machinations aimed at antagonizing Russia, I would rather tend to suspect
that the incident is a psyop implemented by some shadow group or MI5.
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Byker
2018-03-08 00:06:47 UTC
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"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
They'll be lucky to survive the hangover...
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Russian ex-spy victim of attempted murder with nerve agent: UK police

Scientific tests by government experts have identified the specific nerve
agent used, "which will help identify the source" police said.

08 Mar 2018

LONDON: The former Russian double-agent who collapsed in a British town
alongside his daughter was the victim of attempted murder with a nerve
agent, police said on Wednesday (Mar 7).

"This is being treated as a major incident involving attempted murder by
administration of a nerve agent", Metropolitan Police assistant commissioner
Mark Rowley told reporters.

Scientific tests by government experts have identified the specific nerve
agent used, "which will help identify the source" police said, but Rowley
declined to detail it.

"I will not be providing further information at this stage about the exact
substance that has been identified," he added.

Sergei Skripal, who moved to Britain in a 2010 spy swap, is in a critical
condition in hospital along with his daughter Yulia after they collapsed on
a bench outside a shopping centre in the southwestern English city of
Salisbury on Sunday.

A general view shows the main entrance to Salisbury District Hospital in
Salisbury, southern England, where a man and a woman remain in critical
condition which sparked an ongoing major incident which started on Mar 4.
(Chris J Ratcliffe/AFP)

"Sadly, in addition, a police officer, who was one of the first to attend
the scene is now also in a serious condition in hospital," said Rowley.

Hundreds of counter-terrorism detectives deployed to the investigation are
working "around the clock" to create a timeline of the victims' movements,
with "many hours" of CCTV under review, police said.

Interior minister Amber Rudd earlier called for "cool heads" over the
poisoning, which is already being linked with Russia by British politicians
and media.

Police say they are keeping an open mind about what happened, but Foreign
Secretary Boris Johnson on Tuesday alluded to Russia.

He noted the "echoes" with the 2006 poisoning in London of former Russian
spy and Kremlin critic Alexander Litvinenko, which Britain has blamed on
Russia.

Moscow accused politicians and journalists of whipping up anti-Russian
sentiment, with Kremlin foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova telling
reporters the story "was straight away used to boost an anti-Russian
campaign in the media".

Zakharova earlier said Johnson's comments were "wild".

Skripal and his 33-year-old daughter had lunch at a restaurant in Salisbury
before walking to the shopping centre, where witnesses said they appeared
"out of it".

The BBC cited one source as saying that Skripal was "not in a good way at
all" by Tuesday night.

Rowley appealed for information from those in Salisbury on Sunday,
particularly those who had visited either the Zizzi pizza restaurant or the
nearby Bishop's Mill pub.

Some other emergency services personnel who treated the pair required
medical treatment, and The Sun newspaper reported that two police officers
had itchy eyes, wheezing and rashes.

Prime Minister Theresa May was updated on the case at a meeting of her
national security council on Tuesday, but has declined to publicly comment
on the ongoing investigation.

However, she confirmed the government might consider a boycott by British
officials and dignitaries of the 2018 football World Cup in Russia if it
were found to have been involved.

"Depending on what comes out in relation to the investigation ... it might
be appropriate for the government to look at whether ministers and other
dignitaries should attend the World Cup in Russia," she said on Wednesday.

The possible boycott - which would not include players - was first raised by
Johnson on Tuesday, when he told MPs that he was not pointing fingers for
Skripal's collapse but made several references to Russia.

He warned Britain would respond "appropriately and robustly" if a government
was found responsible.

Skripal was a former colonel in Russian military intelligence who was jailed
in his country for betraying agents to Britain's MI6 secret service.

He was pardoned before being flown to Britain as part of a high-profile spy
swap involving Russia and the United States in 2010, and has kept a low
profile since.

The Times newspaper reported that police would look into the 2012 death of
Skripal's wife from cancer, and that of his 44-year-old son last year in St
Petersburg, reportedly from liver problems.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/russian-ex-spy-victim-of-attempted-murder-with-nerve-agent-uk-10024052
Mr. B1ack
2018-03-08 02:13:55 UTC
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"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
They'll be lucky to survive the hangover...
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Russian ex-spy victim of attempted murder with nerve agent: UK police
Propaganda.
Jeff
2018-03-08 08:09:37 UTC
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"Police were probing his exposure to an unknown substance, which left him
unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury and saw media draw parallels
to the case of Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-spy who died of radioactive
polonium poisoning in 2006. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson warned
on Tuesday (Mar. 6) that London would respond "robustly" if it emerged that
a government was behind the suspected poisoning."
https://tinyurl.com/yb27kta8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.0b8e413c93c0
The "unknown substance" was probably cheap gin.
They'll be lucky to survive the hangover...
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Russian ex-spy victim of attempted murder with nerve agent: UK police
Propaganda.
So you are accusing the Metropolitan Police of lying!!!

Jeff
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