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John Stossel: Mr. Trump, if you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you punish consumers
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BurfordTJustice
2018-03-07 13:05:47 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
:
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
:
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
:
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
:
:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
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abelard
2018-03-07 13:27:30 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...


now....what are the 'solutions'?
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Bod
2018-03-07 13:38:56 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
Drop the ridiculous tarrifs. Simple.
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abelard
2018-03-07 14:08:40 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
Drop the ridiculous tarrifs. Simple.
1) tell that to the chinese

2)you can employ far more people on road construction by giving
them knives and forks and spoons instead of heavy equipment

so...what is the objective?

what are your objectives?

what are trump's objectives?...more votes in region of the country?

at present, government is taxing the farmers to subsidise the cities
...to pay for more paper shufflers who produce very little...

or more medics who end up deciding to live in the cities rather than
in the outback

the american constitution is designed to give the outback a strong say
over government
the outback mines coal or sets up steel mills...

the chinese want their peasants working...not causing trouble...

it is the chinese that trump is 'negotiating' with....

then there is the eussr tariff wall...so they are squirming a bit...
of course to hold up the european wall means hanging on to
their 'jobs'

the eussr etc keeps making the excuse it's about pollution...
yet the far east produces cheaper by ignoring pollution...

how about the eussr insisting on european wage levels and
pollution regulations for china and india?

or don't you really care about slave wages and pollution?

if trump brings back manufacturing from other less efficient
less educated countries..that will reduce pollution and
mean more americans on better wages

to return to the beginning...what are your objectives??
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BurfordTJustice
2018-03-07 14:36:18 UTC
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LOL..so says the alt-left.

Right of this mornings talking points.




"trader_4" <***@optonline.net> wrote in message news:976b422e-efb5-45d3-841c-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 8:39:00 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
: > On 07/03/2018 13:27, abelard wrote:
: > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: > > <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: > >
: > >>
: > >> "Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: > >> news:***@mid.individual.net...
: > >> : No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: > >> : "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: > >> :
: > >> : The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: > >> : punish consumers.
: > >> :
: > >> : Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: > >> : American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many
more
: > >> : Americans.
: > >> :
: > >> : They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: > >> : They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes,
and
: > >> : they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: > >> :
: > >> :
: > >>
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: > >
: > >
: > > ok...those are the whinges...
: > >
: > >
: > > now....what are the 'solutions'?
: > >
: > >
: > Drop the ridiculous tarrifs. Simple.
: >
: > --
: > Bod
:
: Instead he's dropping sensible advisers. Gary Cohen, his chief economic
: adviser has had enough of the shit show and just quit. He was against
: the tariffs. If I had to guess, his leaving probably had more to do with
: how Trump did it, than the actual tariffs. Trump just suddenly did it on
: his own, spur of the moment, leaving everyone unprepared and looking like
: fools again. How much of that can anyone take? Sessions, who has taken
: more insults, more abuse than anyone, I think the only reason he's still
: there is he wants to protect Mueller and the FBI so they can complete
: their job and maybe he figures if he does, if they think they have
: something questionable on Sessions, they may give him a pass.
:
: And then Trump is faced with the very real problem of finding qualified
: people to replace those that leave. First, who would want to join this
: hot mess? But worse, how can you get qualified people, when qualified
: people know what you're doing is wrong and you're behaving like a mental
: case? That has been a Trump problem from day one. How did he wind up
: with people like Carter Page and George the Greek as foreign policy
: advisers? A qualified candidate would have plenty of qualified, real
: pros to choose from. But most of those would have nothing to do with
: Trump because they saw what all reasonable people saw. So, he hooks
: up with buffoons that have ties to Russia instead.
:
: There is speculation that Larry Kudlow could be on Trump's list for a
: new economic adviser. If he was chosen and accepted, that would be a
: real shame, because you'd have another good guy sucked into Trump's
: toxic spiral down. But then Kudlow has always been in favor of free
: trade and he was on the radio last night defending NAFTA, saying how
: foolish it is to be screwing with Canada, our ally, etc. So, there
: again is the problem. The people who are qualified are 100% opposed
: to what Trump wants them to do, making their choice unlikely. And
: then we have Trump not learning from his mistakes again and talking
: to, of all people, Scaramucci again, turning to him for advice.
: It really is one big, hot mess.
Ophelia
2018-03-07 15:28:02 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
Drop the ridiculous tarrifs. Simple.

Bod

===

Am I right in thinking I saw on tv last night, that the EU pay 2.25% tariff
on US cars and the US pay 10% on EU cars. Is that right?

If it is I don't blame Trump.
BurfordTJustice
2018-03-08 13:00:34 UTC
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"Ophelia" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
:
:
: "Bod" wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
:
: On 07/03/2018 13:27, abelard wrote:
: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: > <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> "Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: >> news:***@mid.individual.net...
: >> : No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: >> : "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >> :
: >> : The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: >> : punish consumers.
: >> :
: >> : Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >> : American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: >> : Americans.
: >> :
: >> : They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: >> : They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: >> : they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: >> :
: >> :
: >>
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >
: >
: > ok...those are the whinges...
: >
: >
: > now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >
: >
: Drop the ridiculous tarrifs. Simple.
:
: Bod
:
: ===
:
: Am I right in thinking I saw on tv last night, that the EU pay 2.25%
tariff
: on US cars and the US pay 10% on EU cars. Is that right?
:
: If it is I don't blame Trump.
:
:
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care

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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not

nor do most other countries
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:25:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
nor do most other countries
What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?

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So you got nothing again...LOL

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: >>>On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >>><burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
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: >>>>
: >>>>"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: >>>>news:***@mid.individual.net...
: >>>>: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: >>>>: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>>>:
: >>>>: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: >>>>: punish consumers.
: >>>>:
: >>>>: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>>>: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: >>>>: Americans.
: >>>>:
: >>>>: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: >>>>: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: >>>>: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
Post by BurfordTJustice
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: >>>
: >>>
: >>>ok...those are the whinges...
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >>
: >>I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
: >>why should I care
: >
: >america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
: >
: >nor do most other countries
:
: What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?
:
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: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
nor do most other countries
What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?
to an extent, that is already the case...

and many a country would be better off if they did...

but...
america has at least a theory that they don't do empire
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Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
nor do most other countries
What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?
to an extent, that is already the case...
and many a country would be better off if they did...
OK, I'll bite. The UK? If so, why? Examples of other countries and why?
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but...
america has at least a theory that they don't do empire
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
nor do most other countries
What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?
to an extent, that is already the case...
and many a country would be better off if they did...
OK, I'll bite. The UK? If so, why? Examples of other countries and why?
liberia and n. korea and syria would all be better off

i doubt britain would...i'm for diversity...it means i have
choices and possible escape routes...

further, different models can be tested..even to destruction
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
america has the power to become an autarchy...britain does not
nor do most other countries
What are you suggesting? America ruling the world?
Exactly how do you see striving towards autarchy as ruling the world?
One of the wiser founding fathers advised the country to avoid foreign
entanglements but he was ignored. It's time to follow that excellent
advice.
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Then why keep running your mouth, pushed by an empty brain??




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: >
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: >>"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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: >>: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: >>: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>:
: >>: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: >>: punish consumers.
: >>:
: >>: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: >>: Americans.
: >>:
: >>: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: >>: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: >>: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
Post by BurfordTJustice
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: >
: >
: >ok...those are the whinges...
: >
: >
: >now....what are the 'solutions'?
:
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: why should I care
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Then why keep running your mouth, pushed by an empty brain??
I don't know why you do that. Enlighten me?
Post by BurfordTJustice
: >On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >
: >>
: >>: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: >>: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: >>: punish consumers.
: >>: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: >>: Americans.
: >>: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: >>: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: >>: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
Post by BurfordTJustice
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >
: >
: >ok...those are the whinges...
: >
: >
: >now....what are the 'solutions'?
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: why should I care
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You lost yet again.



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: On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:33:25 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
:
: >Then why keep running your mouth, pushed by an empty brain??
:
: I don't know why you do that. Enlighten me?
:
:
:
: >"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <***@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote in
: >message news:***@4ax.com...
: >: On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:27:30 +0100, abelard <***@abelard.org>
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >: ><burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >: >
: >: >>
: >: >>"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: >: >>news:***@mid.individual.net...
: >: >>: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: >: >>: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >: >>:
: >: >>: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: >: >>: punish consumers.
: >: >>:
: >: >>: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >: >>: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many
more
: >: >>: Americans.
: >: >>:
: >: >>: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: >: >>: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes,
and
: >: >>: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: >: >>:
: >: >>:
: >:
: >
Post by BurfordTJustice
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >ok...those are the whinges...
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >:
: >: I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
: >: why should I care
: >:
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
No one knows how it will play out.
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Wrong again bucko.




"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: On 07/03/2018 14:40, rbowman wrote:
: > On 03/07/2018 07:25 AM, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
: >> On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:27:30 +0100, abelard <***@abelard.org>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>> "Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: >>>> news:***@mid.individual.net...
: >>>> : No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: >>>> : "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>>> :
: >>>> : The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: >>>> : punish consumers.
: >>>> :
: >>>> : Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>>> : American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many
more
: >>>> : Americans.
: >>>> :
: >>>> : They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: >>>> : They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes,
and
: >>>> : they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: >>>> :
: >>>> :
: >>>>
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >>>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> ok...those are the whinges...
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >>
: >> I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
: >> why should I care
: >
: > We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
: > has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
: >
: >
: No one knows how it will play out.
:
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
We'll be worse off but have better control of immigration.

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Not true for a nano second..the invasion will continue.




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: >> On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:27:30 +0100, abelard <***@abelard.org>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>> "Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
: >>>> news:***@mid.individual.net...
: >>>> : No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: >>>> : "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>>> :
: >>>> : The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: >>>> : punish consumers.
: >>>> :
: >>>> : Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>>> : American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many
more
: >>>> : Americans.
: >>>> :
: >>>> : They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: >>>> : They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes,
and
: >>>> : they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: >>>> :
: >>>> :
: >>>>
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> ok...those are the whinges...
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >>
: >> I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
: >> why should I care
: >
: >We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
: >has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
:
: We'll be worse off but have better control of immigration.
:
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:57:59 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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Not true for a nano second..the invasion will continue.
So you're against Brexit. Well done that man.
Post by BurfordTJustice
: >>
: >>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>> : No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel,
we
: >>>> : "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: >>>> : The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum,
you
: >>>> : punish consumers.
: >>>> : Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: >>>> : American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many
more
: >>>> : Americans.
: >>>> : They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or
aluminum.
: >>>> : They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes,
and
: >>>> : they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
: >>>>
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> ok...those are the whinges...
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> now....what are the 'solutions'?
: >>
: >> I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
: >> why should I care
: >
: >We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
: >has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
: We'll be worse off but have better control of immigration.
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
We'll be worse off but have better control of immigration.
------------------------------------------------ bottom line
Everything else is bullshit
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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2018-03-07 16:06:28 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
We'll have good company. How's that Brexit thing going? Seems to me that
has a similar chorus of nay-sayers predicting a disaster.
We'll be worse off but have better control of immigration.
------------------------------------------------ bottom line
Everything else is bullshit
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
And get our sovereignty back.
Some of it. The bullshit about regulation doesn't stand up. Unless we
have another layer of it. One for us. We already have one for EU which
will convert to one for EU exports, and then as before one for US
exports, and so on.

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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
Heh, you seem to have opinions on everything going on over here, why is
this situation different?
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
Heh, you seem to have opinions on everything going on over here, why is
this situation different?
That was an opinion.

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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
Heh, you seem to have opinions on everything going on over here, why is
this situation different?
That was an opinion.
No, that was a snarky statement, just the last in a long string of the same.
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Post by abelard
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:05:47 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
: No, President Trump, it's not true that if you tax imported steel, we
: "will have protection for the first time in a long while."
: The opposite is true. If you raise tariffs on steel and aluminum, you
: punish consumers.
: Yes, such tariffs also punish Chinese producers and protect some
: American businesses and workers, but the tariffs will hurt many more
: Americans.
: They'll hurt every business that makes things from steel or aluminum.
: They'll hurt most everyone who buys anything. Tariffs are taxes, and
: they don't just affect inanimate metal objects. They punish people.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/07/john-stossel-mr-trump-if-raise-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-punish-consumers.html
ok...those are the whinges...
now....what are the 'solutions'?
I plan on doing nothing. If America wants to shoot itself in the foot
why should I care
Heh, you seem to have opinions on everything going on over here, why is
this situation different?
That was an opinion.
No, that was a snarky statement, just the last in a long string of the same.
One man's snarky statement is just another cat's opinion.

Besides, I don't wear Levi's although I have a half dozen pairs [just in
case I change my mind] and I've never drunk Bourbon. I do like Southern
Comfort though. How will I manage.


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