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Tory / DUP pact faces court challenge
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The Todal
2017-09-08 17:41:28 UTC
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That ought to be fun.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup

Theresa May’s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.

The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.

The high court notified both sides’ legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.

Unquote

Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
cause:
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Yellow
2017-09-08 18:01:18 UTC
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In article <***@mid.individual.net>, ***@icloud.com
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Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.

And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
The Todal
2017-09-08 21:50:00 UTC
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Post by Yellow
says...
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.
And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
I see it as a route to stopping Theresa May and the Tories and causing
her government to fall.

Then maybe we'll have a competent team of negotiators to secure a good
Brexit deal. David Davis is just a figure of fun.

I don't know if the DUP pact breaks the law. It seems arguable.
Presumably the judges will produce an interesting decision.
Norman Wells
2017-09-08 21:56:41 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
says...
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.
And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
I see it as a route to stopping Theresa May and the Tories and causing
her government to fall.
Then maybe we'll have a competent team of negotiators to secure a good
Brexit deal. David Davis is just a figure of fun.
I don't know if the DUP pact breaks the law. It seems arguable.
Presumably the judges will produce an interesting decision.
How's the weather in Fantasyland?
Yellow
2017-09-09 01:08:36 UTC
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In article <***@mid.individual.net>, ***@icloud.com
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
says...
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.
And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
I see it as a route to stopping Theresa May and the Tories and causing
her government to fall.
OK. Honest answer. :-)

But don't you think the DUP will still support the Tories, to keep out
Labour and to get Brexit, even if a court was to rule the cash bung
illegal?
Post by The Todal
Then maybe we'll have a competent team of negotiators to secure a good
Brexit deal. David Davis is just a figure of fun.
I like him. We share views on Brexit and we share views on personal
freedom and snooping. But then I also like fun.
Post by The Todal
I don't know if the DUP pact breaks the law. It seems arguable.
Presumably the judges will produce an interesting decision.
It will be interesting, I agree.
Fredxxx
2017-09-09 13:18:21 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
says...
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.
And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
I see it as a route to stopping Theresa May and the Tories and causing
her government to fall.
Then maybe we'll have a competent team of negotiators to secure a good
Brexit deal. David Davis is just a figure of fun.
You need to ask why is he a figure of fun. He is putting forward the
will of the UK people against the wishes of Remoaners and EU Bureaucrats.

It's therefore not difficult to cast him as a pariah, especially as he's
the only person to have put a meaningful proposal on the table.
Post by The Todal
I don't know if the DUP pact breaks the law. It seems arguable.
Presumably the judges will produce an interesting decision.
I doubt any pact will break the law. It could also be an incentive for
the DUP and Sinn Fein to occupy Stormont again. Perhaps that is what the
case is really all about and the Greens want to maintain London rule?
Ned Latham
2017-09-10 00:12:09 UTC
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the will of the UK people ...
Since when are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?

Just like in the US a f...ugly noisy ultra trashy right-retarded minority
which has hijacked the system using 'fake news' and 'alternative facts'
to produce outcomes the real majority never wanted has managed to have
their way.
Fredxxx
2017-09-10 01:56:21 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
the will of the UK people ...
Since when are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
I often ask myself that.

<snip loser Remoaner crap>
Ned Latham
2017-09-10 04:21:43 UTC
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No, I didn't. that was Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(aka the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
impersonating me.

There are two ways to detect his infantile posturing: the forrged
header lines, and the message content.

My messages are written in good English. His are often like the
babble you snipped: incoherent.
Post by Fredxxx
Post by Ned Latham
the will of the UK people ...
Since when are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
I often ask myself that.
Despite the vast number of Vopices in Yap-Yap's pointy little head,
he *never* asks jimself that question.
Post by Fredxxx
<snip loser Remoaner crap>
He knows nothing of brit politics: the whole point of his posts
into Brit newsgroups is defamation. He's am immigrant to Oz
(which helps to explain his poor command of the lanmguage),
a communist (which helps to explain his anit-"right" bias),
a Politikal Korrektness Kook, and of course, like the Muslim
terrorists he defends, he refuses to integrate.
Ned Latham
2017-09-10 04:10:05 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
wrote its usual waste of bandwidth...
Post by Ned Latham
the will of the UK people ...
Since when are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
Everybody in these newsgroups is suffering from the racket those
Voices in your pointy little head make in your pointy little head,
you moron. You should get back on your medication.
abelard
2017-09-08 23:29:38 UTC
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Post by Yellow
says...
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
Well blow me down, I was only wondering to myself this afternoon what
had become of this case.
And now I know. :-)
Post by The Todal
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
he's a socialist...therefore he has no morals or ethics...

he believes the ends(his ends) justify the means
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Ned Latham
2017-09-09 01:51:35 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by The Todal
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely believe it
is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
Post by abelard
he believes the ends(his ends) justify the means
Just as you do!

Next idiocy!
Ned Latham
2017-09-09 02:56:39 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
seems now to be trying to offend idiots in my name. Seems its
inaware that I can do that mtself wuite easily...
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping
Brexit and/or getting a Labour government, or because you
genuinely believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
You misspelt your name, Yap-Yap. How the fuck can someone be so
dumb as to be unable to spell their own name?
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
he believes the ends (his ends) justify the means
Just as you do!
You're the commo here, Yap-Yap. You're the mad stalinist
supporter of totalitarianism.
Post by Ned Latham
Next idiocy!
You don't have to announce them, you moron. Just seeing that
you've posted alerts us to them.
Ned Latham
2017-09-10 00:24:12 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely
believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
How the fuck can someone be so dumb as to be unable ...
...to remember what you posted before???

This silly split personality disorder is such a bugger!
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
he believes the ends (his ends) justify the means
Just as you do!
supporter of totalitarianism.
As we (I) see we (I) both agree on this point.
Just as long as everyone would agree to dance to his tune he pretends to
be the champion of democracy...otherwise ....
Abelard finds hard to hide his rightwing totalitarian fantasies.
Post by Ned Latham
Next idiocy!
You don't have to announce them,
Managing multiple personalities their is no guarantee that at least one
is not a ...
moron.
And *no* I did not announce your unnecessary input!
But if you insist: NEXT IDIOCY!!!!!!
Fredxxx
2017-09-10 01:57:37 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping Brexit
and/or getting a Labour government, or because you genuinely
believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
How the fuck can someone be so dumb as to be unable ...
...to remember what you posted before???
This silly split personality disorder is such a bugger!
Perhaps you can start by not replying to your own posts?
Ned Latham
2017-09-10 04:42:42 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
took my name in vain yet again...
Post by Ned Latham
Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
took my name in vain again...
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping
Brexit and/or getting a Labour government, or because you
genuinely believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
You misspelt your name, Yap-Yap. How the fuck can someone be so
dumb as to be unable to spell their own name?
This silly split personality disorder is such a bugger!
Perhaps you can start by not replying to your own posts?
He "thinks" that if he did that his plan to make himself look
like a lunatic would fail. He hasn't worked it out yet.

Prolly never will, he is, after all, a moron. And a lunatic.
P. nigrum
2017-09-10 23:47:07 UTC
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Ned Latham soured the milkj
Post by Fredxxx
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping
Brexit and/or getting a Labour government, or because you
genuinely believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
You misspelt your name, Yap-Yap. How the fuck can someone be so
dumb as to be unable to spell their own name?
This silly split personality disorder is such a bugger!
Perhaps you can start by not replying to your own posts?
He "thinks" that if he did that his plan to make himself look like a
lunatic would fail.
Why are you talking about yourselves in the third person?
What the fuck!
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Ned Latham
2017-09-10 04:34:09 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
still hasb't figured it out...
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
seems now to be trying to offend idiots in my name. Seems its
unaware that I can do that myself wuite easily...
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping
Brexit and/or getting a Labour government, or because you
genuinely believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
You misspelt your name, Yap-Yap. How the fuck can someone be so
dumb as to be unable to spell their own name?
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
he believes the ends (his ends) justify the means
Just as you do!
You're the commo here, Yap-Yap. You're the mad stalinist
supporter of totalitarianism.
Post by Ned Latham
Next idiocy!
You don't have to announce them, you moron. Just seeing that
you've posted alerts us to them.
As we (I) see we (I) both agree on this point.
Having trouble remembering how many of you there are, Yap-Yap?
Fuck you're a moron! Can't even count the Voices in your own
pointy little head? Get a piece of chalk, you moron, and write
the number 427 on your forehead.

And stay away from mirrors...
P. nigrum
2017-09-10 23:50:02 UTC
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Ned Latham soured the milkj
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
Post by Yellow
Do you support it because you see it as a route to stopping
Brexit and/or getting a Labour government, or because you
genuinely believe it is breaking the law?
...therefore he has no morals or ethics...
In other words very much like you!
You misspelt your name, Yap-Yap. How the fuck can someone be so dumb
as to be unable to spell their own name?
Post by Ned Latham
Post by abelard
he believes the ends (his ends) justify the means
Just as you do!
You're the commo here, Yap-Yap. You're the mad stalinist supporter of
totalitarianism.
Post by Ned Latham
Next idiocy!
You don't have to announce them, you moron. Just seeing that you've
posted alerts us to them.
As we (I) see we (I) both agree on this point.
Having trouble remembering how many of you there are, ..
You obviously are having such problems!
Seek professional help!
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Big Jumper
2017-09-08 18:52:23 UTC
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Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May’s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides’ legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
The middle class liberals know how to waste their own money as well as
the public's.

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JNugent
2017-09-08 23:41:38 UTC
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Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May’s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides’ legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?

Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?

Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?


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Yellow
2017-09-09 01:10:36 UTC
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In article <***@mid.individual.net>, ***@fastmail.fm
says...
Post by JNugent
Post by The Todal
That ought to be fun.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup
Theresa May?s parliamentary deal with the Democratic Unionist party will
face a judicial challenge in the divisional court in London within the
next few weeks.
The crowdfunded legal challenge brought by Ciaran McClean, a Green party
activist in Northern Ireland, is likely to be heard by several senior
judges.
The high court notified both sides? legal teams on Friday that because
of the urgency of the claim it should be heard in October at the
beginning of the new legal term. It is likely to begin on 26 October.
Unquote
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this excellent
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/challenge-dup-deal/
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Any port in a storm I think. But as the Gina Miller case proved, taking
a case to court does not always end in your favour, even if you win.
Vidcapper
2017-09-09 06:33:31 UTC
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Post by JNugent
Post by The Todal
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this
excellent
If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.

There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
abelard
2017-09-09 08:55:52 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by JNugent
Post by The Todal
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this
excellent
If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
and there lies your nub...such people resent democracy...
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The Todal
2017-09-09 09:13:50 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by JNugent
Post by The Todal
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this
excellent
If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going to
court to challenge government decisions. You'd rather politicians
abused their power and flouted the law and that they pretended that your
cross on a ballot paper conferred on them all the powers that they
reserve to themselves. You're loyal to Nanny and you hate it when she
gets told off.

Do you think the government will reward you for your loyalty, comrade?
I think not.
abelard
2017-09-09 09:24:21 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by JNugent
Post by The Todal
Everyone can feel free to pledge their contributions to this
excellent
If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going to
court to challenge government decisions. You'd rather politicians
abused their power and flouted the law and that they pretended that your
cross on a ballot paper conferred on them all the powers that they
reserve to themselves. You're loyal to Nanny and you hate it when she
gets told off.
Do you think the government will reward you for your loyalty, comrade?
I think not.
and who would they be, mister poser??

let them play in the kindergarten...

but of course, as usual you are making stuff up that you cannot
back up...
--
www.abelard.org
Norman Wells
2017-09-09 09:53:33 UTC
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Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going to
court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting their
money in futile cases. That's their prerogative. It's also the
prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they lose,
especially when they've told them they will.

It's a free country.
The Todal
2017-09-09 09:57:24 UTC
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Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories
would still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going
to court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting their
money in futile cases.  That's their prerogative.  It's also the
prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they lose,
especially when they've told them they will.
It's a free country.
Yes, of course you can predict that the court case will end in victory
for the government. Any of us can predict that. We don't have copies of
the court papers or the skeleton arguments but that certainly shouldn't
prevent us from placing our bets and pretending that we have carefully
analysed the submissions and have reached a considered conclusion.

If it's a free country, that's only because our courts have for
centuries forced our government to stop breaking the law and to obey the
law.
Norman Wells
2017-09-09 10:16:26 UTC
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Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories
would still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going
to court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting
their money in futile cases.  That's their prerogative.  It's also the
prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they lose,
especially when they've told them they will.
It's a free country.
Yes, of course you can predict that the court case will end in victory
for the government. Any of us can predict that. We don't have copies of
the court papers or the skeleton arguments but that certainly shouldn't
prevent us from placing our bets and pretending that we have carefully
analysed the submissions and have reached a considered conclusion.
Sometimes cases are so obviously forlorn that detailed analysis is a
waste of time. But you can indulge in it if you want.

It's a free country.
The Todal
2017-09-09 11:11:36 UTC
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Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories
would still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force
spurious court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy
<cough>Gina Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going
to court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting
their money in futile cases.  That's their prerogative.  It's also
the prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they
lose, especially when they've told them they will.
It's a free country.
Yes, of course you can predict that the court case will end in victory
for the government. Any of us can predict that. We don't have copies
of the court papers or the skeleton arguments but that certainly
shouldn't prevent us from placing our bets and pretending that we have
carefully analysed the submissions and have reached a considered
conclusion.
Sometimes cases are so obviously forlorn that detailed analysis is a
waste of time.  But you can indulge in it if you want.
It's a free country.
Gina Miller's litigation was widely ridiculed as a waste of time and
bound to fail.

Detailed analysis of the latest case would be wholly beyond your skills
or indeed mine. It would be sheer vanity to pretend otherwise.
Norman Wells
2017-09-09 12:48:53 UTC
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If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories
would still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force
spurious court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy
<cough>Gina Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people
going to court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting
their money in futile cases.  That's their prerogative.  It's also
the prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they
lose, especially when they've told them they will.
It's a free country.
Yes, of course you can predict that the court case will end in
victory for the government. Any of us can predict that. We don't have
copies of the court papers or the skeleton arguments but that
certainly shouldn't prevent us from placing our bets and pretending
that we have carefully analysed the submissions and have reached a
considered conclusion.
Sometimes cases are so obviously forlorn that detailed analysis is a
waste of time.  But you can indulge in it if you want.
It's a free country.
Gina Miller's litigation was widely ridiculed as a waste of time and
bound to fail.
Detailed analysis of the latest case would be wholly beyond your skills
or indeed mine. It would be sheer vanity to pretend otherwise.
It is certainly wholly beyond my desire.
JNugent
2017-09-09 20:37:45 UTC
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Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories
would still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going
to court to challenge government decisions.
No-one's said they want to prevent them going to court and wasting
their money in futile cases.  That's their prerogative.  It's also the
prerogative of those on the outside to laugh at them when they lose,
especially when they've told them they will.
It's a free country.
Yes, of course you can predict that the court case will end in victory
for the government.
It will end in victory for the DUP MPs and for the people who elected
them. Subject to special arrangements for legislation affecting only
England, they have the same rights as MPs for Yorkshire, Devon or
Glamorgan and as electors there.
Post by The Todal
Any of us can predict that. We don't have copies of
the court papers or the skeleton arguments but that certainly shouldn't
prevent us from placing our bets and pretending that we have carefully
analysed the submissions and have reached a considered conclusion.
If it's a free country, that's only because our courts have for
centuries forced our government to stop breaking the law and to obey the
law.
JNugent
2017-09-09 20:35:26 UTC
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excellent
If you're a lawyer working on this spurious case, perhaps...
Post by JNugent
Does the loony Green seriously expect to be able to prevent the DUP from
voting in support of the government?
Does he expect to be able to dictate to the DUP how their MPs may vote
in general?
Perhaps he's hoping to have it held that the DUP must only vote in
support of Loony Green Party policies?
Clearly he doesn't realise that even without the DUP, the Tories would
still be in power.
There seem to be more 'sore losers' nowadays, will to force spurious
court cases in a futile attempts to thwart democracy <cough>Gina
Miller<cough>.
There seem to be many folk like you who want to prevent people going to
court to challenge government decisions.  You'd rather politicians
abused their power and flouted the law and that they pretended that your
cross on a ballot paper conferred on them all the powers that they
reserve to themselves. You're loyal to Nanny and you hate it when she
gets told off.
Do you think the government will reward you for your loyalty, comrade? I
think not.
A straightforward enough question:

Q: Do DUP MPs have fewer rights than MPs from other parties?

A1: Yes.

A2: No.

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