Discussion:
Will Prince Charles remind us not to forget Mohammed this Xmas?
(too old to reply)
Byker
2017-12-08 22:44:24 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5

Never mind that his grandson is a potential terror target:
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
saracene
2017-12-08 23:11:05 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
He still has nice things to say about the Pope, even though his own relatives have been murdered by Papist extremists.
de chucka
2017-12-08 23:16:03 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Fran
2017-12-09 23:02:34 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
You didn't poke a stick in the eye of that idiot Byker about the last
idiot comment. Charles knows far more about the threat from terrorists
than the idiot Byker would ever know having lost his favourite great
Uncle to a terrorist attack many decades ago.
abelard
2017-12-10 11:55:45 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:02:34 +1100, Fran
Post by Fran
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Post by Byker
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
You didn't poke a stick in the eye of that idiot Byker about the last
idiot comment. Charles knows far more about the threat from terrorists
than the idiot Byker would ever know having lost his favourite great
Uncle to a terrorist attack many decades ago.
i know far more about driving because someone in the
next street died in a car crash...
--
www.abelard.org
Ned Latham
2017-12-30 13:24:12 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the censys, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Johnny-Knowall
2017-12-30 14:20:46 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the censys, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would come to
their home; and they wouldn’t have to go anywhere.

That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as well as their
names and gender(s).
Ned Latham
2017-12-30 20:40:47 UTC
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Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
Johnny-Knowall
2017-12-30 20:48:35 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.

Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could make up
any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?

And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of Jesus;
what does that say about the morals of the society he was born into?

I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph revealed he
wasn’t the father of her baby?
Ned Latham
2017-12-30 21:43:45 UTC
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On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would come
to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as well
as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could make
up any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of
Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was born
into?
I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph revealed
he wasn’t the father of her baby?
That is definitely not true....it was a kinky three-some session with the
Holy Ghost as you should now! It was a 50-50% chance who the actual
father ended up to be!
Johnny-Knowall
2017-12-30 21:58:35 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would come
to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as well
as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could make
up any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of
Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was born
into?
I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph revealed
he wasn’t the father of her baby?
That is definitely not true....it was a kinky three-some session with the
Holy Ghost as you should now! It was a 50-50% chance who the actual
father ended up to be!
In that case your Holy Ghost borders on committing paedophilia, because Mary
was said to be only 12 years old when Jesus was born.

Given that your said ghost could have chosen from millions of older women, it
is looking somewhat dodgy given the current trend for bringing child sexual
abuse cases, don’t you think?

I have discovered that the reason we will have difficulty knowing of
Joseph’s parents’ views, because he was 90 years old at the birth
(something that seems not to be portrayed in many Nativity scenes at this
time of year). I’m beginning to think this religion stuff is not for me.

A 90 year old man with a 12 year old girl? Ewwwwww!
Ned Latham
2017-12-30 22:18:40 UTC
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On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in article
Post by Ned Latham
On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical
"persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their
tribal origins the censors can record those details that are
important to *them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could
make up any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of
Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was born
into?
I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph
revealed he wasn’t the father of her baby?
That is definitely not true....it was a kinky three-some session with
the Holy Ghost as you should now! It was a 50-50% chance who the actual
father ended up to be!
In that case your Holy Ghost borders on committing paedophilia, because
Mary was said to be only 12 years old when Jesus was born.
/snip/
A 90 year old man with a 12 year old girl? Ewwwwww!
I'd say that 90 is nothing as compared to 6000 of the Holy Ghost, eh?
Assuming of course that he came into being at the time of the Biblical
Creation...

But then that event has taken place well before US protestant anti-sex
prudery was projected backwards through to the ages where the actual
average human life expectancy hardly went beyond 30 and in general girls
got married at 9-11. So paedophilia in that application is just bah-
humbug!
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 03:12:02 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
Post by Ned Latham
I'd say
Of course you would, Yap-Tap. You're full of it.

Now do what your were told: get back on your medication.
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 03:15:44 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
Post by Ned Latham
I'd say
Of course you would, Yap-Tap. You're full of it.

Now do what your were told: get back on your medication.
dolf
2017-12-31 03:42:40 UTC
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Do you have any reasonable grounds for such conclusions being unlawful hate
speech as dog and pony show?

That your constant disrespect of responses made to you constitutes a
contempt as to declare your conduct as treasonous.

As matters have been reported to the constable of police under the auspices
of Section 9 A of the Crimes Act Victoria (1958) on 19 March 2017 the onus
of accountability is placed upon you.

Thus your only recourse is to show a proper respect to the detailed
responses given to you and either refute it by reasonable conduct or shut
the fuck up.

If you engage within any more abhorrent dehumanising conduct as hate speech
which declares others as mentally deranged without any accountability as
evidence and ignores my posts to you as improperly inferred on allegedly
the same grounds.

Then rest assured you will be subject to severe detriment as is a
prerogative permissible by law.

This is not a threatening conduct by me but merely conveying to you what
will be consequential to your continued perverse and depraved anonymous
posting conduct as a lack of any civil respect for the intellect and
autonomous will of persons.
Post by Ned Latham
Tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
Post by Ned Latham
I'd say
Of course you would, Yap-Tap. You're full of it.
Now do what your were told: get back on your medication.
One could conclude that your shadow post is political propaganda as slander
made in the intentioned cause célèbre in support of terrorism as disloyalty
to sovereign nations and the valor of their war dead which is an unlawful
conduct by you and is a charge proven by the lack of any rational as
reasoned accountability over robust dealing with all responses.

That the reason you don't respond to me with any integrity is that your
Christ-murderous blood lust and God Almighty blasphemy always seeks some
human quarry to slaughter upon your altar of self-justifying and bestowed
haughty piety.

Let me embellish some more...

I don’t want to appear insensible, uncaring and inhumane as any lacking
semblance of feminine attributes when masculine laughter heartily overtakes
me with such strength of being as disconcerting vigour that my sphincter in
empathy jostles scornfully at you.

You probably won’t even check the accompanying document which substantiated
the informed opinion as conveying technical brilliance of epistemological
masterpiece in knowledge pragmatics articulating a coherent unity of
apperception.

SEE ALSO: “GORDON: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS FAITH OF YOURS CURSING THE
SOVEREIGN QUEEN, GOD AND COUNTRY?”

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other country adhered to universal principles (eg. such as DAOist
meta-descriptor prototypes) of right as the basis for any just cause for
the prosecution of war.

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MELANIA HAS LOST SOME PAIRS 👙.
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PRANCING WITH SUCH AYRES.
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military man is at a far greater risk of castration from the barracks, than
a homosexual man walking down the street.

Most military men come from traditional conservative backgrounds and would
not be as likely to come out of the closet as their flamboyant urban
cousin."

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2017!

Up which da chickens is me.”

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We know time before you do and hence we don't need chickens in cages to
warn us of Saddam Hussein's chemical attacks.”

JACK ANDERSON (DESERET NEWS) @ 0000 HOURS ON 1 FEBRUARY 1991: "ALLIED
TROOPS EXPECTING CHEMICAL ATTACKS:

Everyone likes to hedge their bets out here with good luck charms,
religious medals, *THEIR* *LADY'S* *LINGERIE* *TUCKED* *UNDER* *THEIR*
*HELMETS* - *AND* *CHICKENS*.

On the front lines, guarding against a chemical attack by Saddam Hussein,
are chickens, which serve the function of canaries in a coal mine. If they
keel over, the troops know the area has been ‘slimed’ - jargon for a
chemical or biological attack.At one base, the chief chicken is Buford, and
he sits in a cage next to a gas monitoring machine. Buford is the backup.

If the machine fails, Buford won't.

Even the base newspaper is called ‘Buford Talks’."

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"YOU ***@TFACED AGAIN?
STARTED AS A FANNY ITCH.
WHICH WON'T GO AWAY.

WAR INJURY SUCH A PAIN.
BUT AIN'T LIFE A BITCH.
LITTLE JOB ENDLESS PAY.

LOVE IS SUCH DISDAIN.
MY PLAN WAS A CINCH.
TOY SOLDIERS AT PLAY.

NO LIMIT NO CONTAIN.
JUST DRUNK ON PUNCH."

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Aren't you a Knights Templar International as Freemasonry engaging within a
travesty as a religious Saint Andrews cause célèbre pantomime of public
indecency?

In a similar manner to Germany’s Nazi Party, Communist China and Vietnamese
likewise abandoned these principles of truth for some other institutional
imperative.

It ought to be remembered that Seventh-day Adventists {#509} have as
non-combatants and pacifists always been faithful to Principles of
INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTIS as religious liberty which were adopted
as part of our Australian Commonwealth in 1901 and modelled upon earlier
American Constitutional precedents.

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With the resurgence of the tradition of TAOism within China which is
entirely compatible with Jewish / Christian Torah {#509} belief in
INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTIS it as the two boekends of occidental
(West) / oriental (East) world view spheres harbingers the decline of Roman
Catholic / Islamic idolatry.

In this modern age, there is an increased selfishness amongst war veterans
to claim honours of preeminence (Ichiban #1) as sentimentality which is
associated to the dishonourable #65 - Soldiers of Roman Empire Governance
(or the seven Papal Bulls and Knights Templars) and in so doing forget the
Acts of Apostles narrative of the Roman soldier Cornelius within Acts 10
which is associated to the Jerusalem Temple prayer times that negate
Catholic/Islamic/Freemasonry et al occupancy of this most sacred site as
the home of Israel’s capital.

Well may you accept your war awards, but you cannot as do the Knights
Templar International, make any authentic religious claim of Jewish /
Christian association to either Jesus Christ or Almighty God in deference
to our own prerogative religious claim.

To do so is fraudulent, dishonest and blasphemy as you have never once in
over 22 years shown a proper as dignified respect and after the expiry of
2017 it will never be accepted from you.

We are coming for you by lawful means only, but I forewarn that you ought
to be afraid, as ever so afraid.

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You will not see our motion, as it occurs under the shadow of the
Almighty’s wings, when we eventually do make our strike upon you, it will
be as a venomous bite of a serpent {#340 as #90, #80, #70, #50, #10, #40 =
tsepha` (H6848): {#12 as #240} 1) poisonous serpent; 1a) a viper snake or
adder / It did thunder in our village @ 1924 HOURS ON 29 DECEMBER 2017} for
which there is no known antidote.

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vleugels van de Almachtige, wanneer wij uiteindelijk onze slag op u slaan,
het zal zijn als een giftige beet van een slang waarvoor er geen tegengif
bekend is.

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When the choice is to be found amongst the flotsam of over 5000 beach
invaders who were probably so paralytic as to be incapable of making it
safely back home...



...I’m not talking about Dunkirk but the marauding Christmas beach parties
which despoiled pleasant amenities and the good conscience of our civil
society.

“$18k backpacker clean-up bill, Sydney party ‘un-Australian’”

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“St Kilda foreshore trashed: 'Appalling' drunkenness as thousands gather on
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-- [TERROR ALERT] For those brave who gave their lives so we could live
ours

My comment which imposes a constitutional compliance upon Channel Nine news
and will be used within any indictment of Treason under Section 9A of the
Crimes Act of Victoria (1958) for which theirs is both a reverse
accountability of onus under law and designation of life imprisonment (and
one could argue contrary to national values a death penalty) is
unreasonably and improperly marked as SPAM.

Whether it is the Los Vegas shooter, the deliberate holocaust of the SPD
political party offices within Germany or the supranatural Moscow bus crash
as supposed accident into the subway entrance, from my view such persons if
associated to the Knights Templar International intrinsically have an
ulterior motive as substituted moral ethic made of our ANZAC tradition as
principle:

“Lest We Forget”

Where their “VOLUNTARY WILL” is understood in terms of any causal acts (as
ostensibly terrorist) as assistance rendered and ultimately of martyrdom by
those such amoral persons who divest themselves of life itself for the
Saint Andrews cause célèbre as the advancement of the Institutional
imperative.

The espousing of the Christmas Day truce of 1914 is symptomatic of this as
an artifice made of the superiority ascribed to religious ideology (the
enemy was something other than: @1 / @5) is an attempt to convey an
inherent morality and justice of the institutional dogma made upon the
supposed #CENTRE value of life:

“For those brave who gave their lives so we could live ours”

As that which attempts to impose {390 = 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} by sym-bulimia an institutional imperative initially upon the
eclipse of 22 August 1914 / 2017 so as to side step any associated fascist
identity and to impose such upon “VOLUNTARY WILL” which is a property of
singularity and not of marriage in accordance with the Institutional
permissibility.

#1 - Singularity as ensuring viability to any formula of autonomy has
precedence;

#2 - Reciprocity as anchorage / centrality with others is a delimitation of
the former;

#3 - How you mutually and agreeably choose to enjoy your opportunities with
others ought to be negotiable;

#4 - Avoid circumstances where the integrity of persons is compromised by
the intentions of others;

#5 - Acknowledge the cause for any disharmony and peaceably strive for
resolution;

#6 - Always make a better choice as the principle for self actualisation
(you need to happily live with an opportunity);

#7 - Understand that everything you do, say, want or refuse comes with
constraints and means.

But this is counter intuitive when consideration is also given to the
notion that the ANZAC tradition is itself dependent upon the life bestowed
upon the nation by the earlier BOER WAR (11 October 1899 – 31 May 1902)
tradition as its VOLUNTARY conscription cornerstone within Australian
identity.

As that which is inclusive of the Sovereign Principle [@1] being related to
its existential substance; #9 - Autonomous Nature {#6 - Form of Nature} as
the intrinsic morality and justice applied by the State within the
legislative recognition of women’s suffrage enabling women to vote in the
constitutional referendum of 31 July 1900 and the 1901 state and federal
elections as their constitutional entitlement to exercise of “VOLUNTARY
WILL” [@5] within political life.

But furthermore, SECTION VIII of the Letters Patent to the Federation of
the Commonwealth of Australia (1901) recognises that the exercise of
“VOLUNTARY WILL” which is attributed by the trinomial consideration of:

Animus: OBEDIENT,
Spiritus: AIDING,
Gravitas: ASSISTING.

As independent of any religious ideology, is directed towards the
SOVEREIGNTY of the GOVERNOR GENERAL, but also grants the permissibility for
*ANY* individual within the COMMONWEALTH to exercise such “VOLUNTARY WILL”
so as to “ADMINISTER THE GOVERNMENT of Our said Commonwealth” in compliance
with the MATERIA PRIMA actuated by the instrumentation of the Letters
Patent.

And this occurs “in the event of his death, INCAPACITY, or absence, to such
person or persons as may, FROM TIME TO TIME, under the PROVISIONS OF THESE
OUR LETTERS PATENT...”

Thus in the circumstance where the Governor General is INCAPACITATED by the
situation of INTOXICATION or a malady or temporary medical condition such
as a MIGRAINE (it’s not up to me to cast aspersions upon such dignity) is
the bestowal of an entitlement in some such (“if only by a statement as
this”) manner (ie.

We can in consideration of INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTIS argue against
the requirement to take an oath as it embodies and complies with such
spontaneous permissibility.

) as to express a timely opinion for the edification of others and to
promulgate {

*παραθηκην*
#277 as #80, #1, #100, #1, #9, #8, #20, #8, #50 = paratheke (G3866): {#9 as
#227} 1) a deposit, a trust or thing consigned to one's faithful keeping;
1a) used of the correct knowledge and pure doctrine of the gospel, to be
held firmly and faithfully, and to be conscientiously delivered unto others

} the UNIVERSAL principle of good governance which cannot in any way
interfere with the principles, powers and functions of the Governor
General.

Nous: #61
Time: 16:55 hrs
Date: 2017.12.6
Torah: #5 #8 #300 %81 = #70
Dao: Virtuous Humility at Using 'Beneath' Tetra: #78 - On the Verge
I-Ching: H64 - Ferrying Incomplete, Before Completion, Not Yet Fording, Not
yet completed

Latin: Salvator {Concealed God} Alt: Yarahel {Archery of God} {

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Eliakim {Resurrection of God}

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***@zen: 4, row: 7, col: 5, nous: 61 [Time: 1655 hrs, Super: #277 /
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity, Trust in Faith; I-Ching: H59 - Dispersion,
Dispersal (dissolution); Tetra: 47 - Pattern, Ego: #392 / #61 - Virtuous
Humility at Using 'Beneath'; I-Ching: H64 - Ferrying Incomplete, Before
Completion, Not Yet Fording, Not yet completed; Tetra: 78 - On the Verge]

And thus we have done our duty...

In my view, the notion:

“*For* *those* *brave* *who* *gave* *their* *lives* *so* *we* *could*
*live* *ours*”

is a subtle but nonetheless substituted ethic which is imposed upon our
glorious war dead and a transformation impunity made by a foreign power
which is directed against the singularity as prerogative entitlement of the
State by its recognition of the inherent morality and justice associated to
the exercise of “VOLUNTARY WILL” as a principle of law and public good
order itself.

Thus the moral and just question to ask such persons is how they might
lawfully propose one ought to “live their lives” if not by being “obedient,
aiding and assisting unto our Governor General”?

- dolf

PS. New Zealand was the First Nation to legislate the entitlement of
women’s suffrage and the Croatian religious heritage which forms Lorde’s
worldview as essentiality of being does not:

— IMMACULATE CONCEPTION
(WIPE SCREEN AFTER USE TO PREVENT DISEASE SPREAD) —

“And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood,
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.” [Royals (2013) Lorde: 688, 851,551 contagion
views]



***@t ya living it girlie and la la land beckons for ya.

Such lack of integrity over the dichotomy of disloyalty which is imposed by
a dual national identity is for her to resolve.

Alleging blasphemous deception of revisionism, anti-semitism / seventh-day
adventist slander and intellectual dishonesty by Dan Brown: "He ­retells
how he famously went [as presumably a reprobate Catholic in a moment of
holocaust denial] to the family priest to ask how the Bible’s version of
­creation fitted with 卐 sciences:

MIND: {1 + 2 = #3} +
SCIENCE: {3 + 4 = #7} +
OPINION: {5 + 6 = #11} +
SENSE: {7 + 8 = #15} = #36 (ie. H27 - Realm of its Nature as Heaven -
Formula of Universal Law + H9 - System's Cosmology as Earth - Formula of
Humanity)

"I went to my priest and said, ‘Hey, which story is true?’, and my priest
told me, ‘Nice boys don’t ask that question’,” Brown says. "That’s when I
started to question and move away from religion.”

Brown finds it "astonishing that in 2017 we have a US congressman who will
say the Earth is 6000 years old, that the fossil record was put there to
test our faith”.

"I’m troubled by that, and because it’s a religious idea we’re not allowed
to ridicule, to teach this in our schools is to me a great embarrassment,
and dangerous.” [Dan Brown’s new book "Origin” challenges the concept of
God and suggests humans will worship AI, Wendy Tuohy, The Courier-Mail,
October 28, 2017 2:30am]

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This TELOS as the chronological occultation of the custodial CENTRE (#41 on
13-17th September 2001) is also a cosmological viewpoint of such TELOS
related to the sun/moon cycles and is associated to a reprise of the
cosmogony as a notion of the Genesis Principle and has horological
implications conveyed by the Book of JUBILEES as Time Division by Days,
Weeks and Jubilees.

It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old, but
rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a noumenon
focal point as a development by which rationality transpires, reason
springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:

HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product* *of*
*two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]

The development of the GRAPPLE HOMOIOTIC NOUMENON is my claim to an
Intellectual Property as being compliant with a Natural Law, Common Law and
an *EGALITARIAN* right, in that it establishes the prima facie claim, that
my past conduct has always had an integrity with regards to an expression
of an Autonomy of Will."

#1 - *MONAD* (MATTER as World of Emanation - ATZILUTH) as 3 MOTHER LETTERS
expressing the following meta-principles:

- PURPLE FORBIDDEN ENCLOSURE (紫微垣) / MONAD - #1 - NATURE CONTAINS NATURE:
{ALEPH (*MOTHER* - SCALES OF MERIT) / SERAPHIM (Heb. Saraph Gk. Ophis -
burning, that is, (figuratively) poisonous (serpent); specifically a fiery
(serpent) or symbolical creature (from their copper color))} {ARCH KAI
TELOS OIDA {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}

Northern Pole (北極 - Běijí) Four Advisors (四輔 - Sìfǔ) Right Wall (紫微左垣 -
Zǐwēiyòuyuán) Chief Judge (大理 - Dàlǐ) Six Jia (六甲 - Liùjiá) Canopy Support
(杠 - Gāng) Guest House (傳舍 - Chuánshě) Eight Kinds of Crops (八穀 - Bāgǔ)

Celestial Boat (天船 - Tiānchuán) and the Stomach (胃宿 as Wèi Xiù - Stomach,
fingers and granary/Aries) is one of the twenty-eight mansions of the
Chinese constellations and was associated with White Tiger of the West
(西方白虎).

22/7 as 3W1D ...

*HEAVEN* (GODHEAD:

THE MAJOR PREMISE {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of Universal
Law}, WHICH CONTAINS THE LAW OF THAT WILL: 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the
'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to the 'constant sequence of sun and
moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days:

AS BEING AN OBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY: "And God spake all these
words, saying, 'I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the
land of Egypt {that troubles or oppresses; anguish}, out of the house of
bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me..." [Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV)]

#YOD [#10 - #MALKHUT] as 10 on 10 SEPTEMBER 2001)

- SUPREME PALACE ENCLOSURE (太微垣) / DUAD - #13 - *NATURE* *CONTAINS*
*NATURE*: {MEM / *MOTHER* - *THE* *TONGUE* *OF* *DECREE* *DECIDING*
*BETWEEN* *THEM*: 10 paragraphs of the Letters Patent of the Australian
Constitution 1 January 1901}

AND THE *EARTH* (COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis [James 3:6]:

THE MINOR PREMISE {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of Humanity},
WHICH CONTAINS THE COMMAND TO BEHAVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, THAT IS,
THE PRINCIPLE OF SUBSUMPTION UNDER THE LAW: x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or
365.242320819 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21
March = 1 Nisan 5756; and

AS BEING A LOGICAL GROUNDING OF INFINITY: "... Thou shalt not bow down
thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and
fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of
them that love me, and keep my commandments..." [Exodus 20:5-6 (KJV)]

#MEM [#40] as 13)

- HEAVENLY MARKET ENCLOSURE (天市垣) / TRIAD - #21 - *AUTONOMOUS* *NATURE*:
{SHIN / *MOTHER* - *SCALES* *OF* *LIABILITY*: bequeathed in perpetuity to
its sovereign

IX - And We do hereby *reserve* *to* *Ourselves* *Our* *heirs* *and*
*SUCCESSORS*, *FULL* *POWER* *AND* *AUTHORITY* *FROM* *TIME* *TO* *TIME*
*TO* *REVOKE*, *ALTER*, *OR* *AMEND* *these* *Our* *Letters* *Patent*, *as*
*to* Us or *THEM* *SHALL* *SEEM* *MEET*.

AND OF *MAN* (HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T]:

THE CONCLUSION {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of Autonomy},
WHICH CONTAINS THE VERDICT (SENTENCE), WHAT IS LAID DOWN AS RIGHT IN THE
CASE AT HAND: ... 6,000 as 122J3W1D + 9(9²+1)/2 as #369 with Septet #41
centric on 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.

AS BEING A SUBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY AS ETERNITY: "...Thou shalt not
take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him
guiltless that taketh his name in vain.'" [Exodus 20:7 (KJV)]

#TAU [#400] as 22)

#ALEPH to #LAMED: AUTONOMOUS HYPOTHETICAL FLUIDITY THEORY {ANIMUS:
OBEDIENCE}

#MEM to #QOPH: TETRAD FOR ANY GENII THESIS {SPIRITUS: AIDING}

#RESH to #TAU: IMPELEMENTATION {GRAVITAS: ASSISTING}

#YOD + #MEM + #TAU + #ALEPH {23 CHROMOSOME ELEMENTS AS THEORY OF GENDER}"

TO THEREBY DEFINE BY THE OLYMPIC SPIRITUS AND FLAME {#266 = #40, #20, #6,
#200 as kuwr (H3564): {#6 as #226} 1) furnace, forge, smelting furnace or
pot; 2) (Qal) to bore, pierce, dig, hew} AN UNIVERSALITY TO ALL HUMANKIND:

HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] ...

YOUTUBE: “I Know Him So Well (John Barrowman duet with Daniel Boys)”



— TRUTH WHISPERS AS TEARS IN RAIN —

“WHAT OF GODHEAD.
AND IMAGO DEI.
OR TRUTH CONVEY?
BY PURE CONCEIT.

WHY BE WICKED.
SUCH AS THEE.
OF BLASPHEMY.
SELFISH DECEIT.

WHOM DID BLEED.
WAS IT NOT FOR ME?
YOUR COCK DENY.
NOW ALL FORFEIT.” [Written: 3 December 2017]

YOUTUBE: “Time to Die (Gary Numan)”



OUR WORLD IS GUIDED BY TWO PRINCIPLES: {

@1 - CARDINAL SIN AS THE WICKEDNESS OF PRELATES SUCH AS THE ARCHIMANDRITE
AND OF NUNS

@5 - IMMUTABLE SELF-CENTREDNESS THAT PRESUMPTUOUSLY STANDS WITHIN THE PLACE
OF GOD

} AS THAT WHICH NOW HAS NO FURTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR GOD ALMIGHTY'S GRACE.

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[IMAGE: The eye {Y-M-T-A} glyph]

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[IMAGE: Note this same eye {Y-M-T-A} glyph within the Egyptian Book of the
Dead as shown husband / wife before Osiris {4x4 = 16 / #34 / Usurper: @1 /
Mystery: #17 / Leader: #136 / Regulator: #170 / General Governor: #340}
relative to the equivalence of the DAOist meta-descriptor prototypes {H64 /
#81}.

The Osirian {#INR} legend {#5 as #PHALLUS = #360 / #72 or #365 / #70 = #5 +
5x5 = 25 / #65 / Usurper: @1 / Mystery: #26 {YHWH} / Leader: #325 /
Regulator: #390 / General Governor: #780 / 2 = #390 as 1, #100, #80, #1,
#3, #5, #200 as harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a
extortioner, a robber or #365 / #5 = #73} of Egypt {that troubles or
oppresses; anguish} sets aside 70-nights during a 365-day-solar-year to
mark the star Sirius’ disappearance below the horizon. Osirus existed in
the netherworld for 70-days until his triumphant resurrection every year.

“Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness {ie.

Sons of BELIAL:

‎*שבנ*
#352 as #300, #2, #50 = ben (H1121): {#3 as #52 *THEY* *ARE* *NOT* *THE*
*SONS* *OF* *GOD*} 1) son, grandson, child, member of a group; 1a) son,
male child; 1b) grandson; 1c) children (pl. - male and female); 1d) youth,
young men (pl.); 1e) young (of animals); 1f) sons (as characterisation, ie
sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels]; 1g)
people (of a nation) (pl.); 1h) of lifeless things, ie sparks, stars,
arrows (fig.); 1i) a member of a guild, order, class;

*μαριασ*
#352 as #40, #1, #100, #10, #1, #200 = Maria (G3137): {#15 as #152} 1) Mary
the mother of Jesus; 2) Mary Magdalene, a women from Magdala; 3) Mary, the
sister of Lazarus and Martha; 4) Mary of Cleophas the mother of James the
less; 5) Mary the mother of John Mark, a sister of Barnabas; 6) Mary, a
Roman Christian who is greeted by Paul in Rom. 16:6;

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"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and
her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
[Genesis 3:15 (KJV)]

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}, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:


Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

For by him were all things created, that are in *HEAVEN*, and that are in
*EARTH*, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones {#27 -
SOVEREIGNTY}, or dominions {#52 - 6J as 6x49 = 294 x 364 {ie. #7 x #52}
days of years = 107,016 / 293 = 365.24232}, or principalities {#175 -
MARRIAGE as anthropic prototype}, or powers {#85 = #10, #5, #30, #40 = A
precious stone; diamond or *ADAMANT*

[Noun]: a legendary rock or mineral to which many properties were
attributed, formerly associated with diamond or lodestone;
[Adjective]: refusing to be persuaded or to change one's mind;
[Origin]: Old English (as a noun), from Old French adamaunt-, via Latin
from Greek adamas, adamant-, ‘untameable, invincible’ (later used to denote
the hardest metal or stone, hence diamond), from a- ‘not’ + daman ‘to
tame’. The phrase to be adamant dates from the 1930s, although adjectival
use had been implied in such collocations as ‘an adamant heart’ since the
16th century.

YOUTUBE: “Kylie Minogue - Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend (Fox Studios
Grand Opening)”



}: all things were created by him, and for him:

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning {

archē: a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of
order, time, place or rank):—beginning, corner, (at the, the) first
(estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule

}, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the
preeminence." [Colossians 1:13-18 (KJV)]

I HAVE IDENTIFIED EVIDENCE TO SUSTAIN THE ALLEGATION OF A SUBSTITUTED ETHIC
IMPOSED UPON OUR WAR DEAD:

It did thunder within the village @ 0322 hours immediately after that
message was sent.

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***@zen: 1, row: 2, col: 5, nous: 77 [Time: 0320 hrs, Super: #551 /
#77 - Natural Guide, Heaven's Reason; I-Ching: H12 - Obstruction,
Standstill (stagnation), Selfish persons; Tetra: 57 - Guardedness, Ego:
#473 / #77 - Natural Guide, Heaven's Reason; I-Ching: H12 - Obstruction,
Standstill (stagnation), Selfish persons; Tetra: 57 - Guardedness]

#473 as #40, #400, #1, #2, #30 = abal (H56): {#0 as #33} 1) to mourn,
lament; 1a) (Qal) to mourn, lament; 1a1) of humans; 1a2) of inanimate
objects (fig.); 1a2a) of gates; 1a2b) of land; 1b) (Hiphil); 1b1) to mourn,
cause to mourn (fig.); 1c) (Hithpael); 1c1) to mourn; 1c2) play the
mourner;

#473 as #20, #3, #50, #400 = gannah (H1593): {#1 as #58} 1) garden,
orchard;

#473 as #6, #400, #7, #2, #8, #10, #40 = zabach (H2076): {#2 as #17} 1) to
slaughter, kill, sacrifice, slaughter for sacrifice; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to
slaughter for sacrifice; 1a2) to slaughter for eating; 1a3) to slaughter in
divine judgment; 1b) (Piel) to sacrifice, offer sacrifice;

#473 as #5, #80, #8, #100, #20, #5, #200, #5, #50 = eparkeo (G1884): {#12
as #1011} 1) to avail or be strong enough for; 1a) to ward off or drive
away, a thing for another's advantage; 1a1) a thing from anyone, to defend;
1b) to aid, give assistance, relieve; 1b1) to give aid from one's own
resources;

#473 as #20, #1, #300, #1, #100, #1, #50 = katara (G2671): {#13 as #423} 1)
an execration, imprecation, curse;

It would behove us to at a convenient time examine the:

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For each of the UMBRA / GEMATRIA entries associated to the INTELLECTUAL
TETRAD as seemingly associated to the ANKH 𓋹 symbol of life:

#33
#58
#17
#473

We can by dialectic distinguish within this ethereal system a beginning {#1
- #YOD / #CENTRE AS POSITION}, middle {#41 - #MEM / DELIMITATION} and end
{#81 - #TAU / CIRCUMSCRIBE} which is both compatible with the DAOist
HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER as perennialist heritage and that of our Letters
Patent to Federation of the Commonwealth of Australia. We are compelled to
envisage this eternal process under the *FORM* *OF* *TIME*, *TO* *APPLY*
*TEMPORAL* *DISTINCTIONS* *TO* *THAT* *WHICH* *IS* *EXTRA*- *OR*
*SUPRA*-*TEMPORAL* and deploys the DAOist meta-descriptor prototypes and an
agreed #72 mathematical elements as the anthropic principle overlay {viz a
viz the Greco-Roman / Sudoku (鼠毒) puzzlement as magic square}:

41 1 57
49 33 17
9 65 25 = #99 / #297 {#ONE} <-- *AS* *THE* *FOUNDATION* *STONE*
(*USURPING* @1 = *SOVEREIGN* / #CENTRE @5 = *LAST* *WILL*, *TESTAMENT* *OF*
#INR *BEING* *THE* *BINDING* *NORM* (*NORMA* *OBLIGANS* ) *ON* #33 AD)
*MAGIC* *SQUARE*

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#1 (9) - OUHOUYAH (King-Seraphim) = #1
#9 (8) - HAZIEL (King-Cherubim) = #10
#17 (7) - LEVYAH (King-Throne) = #27
#25 (6) - NETEHYAH (King-Dominion) = #52 <-- *THEY* *ARE* *NOT* *THE*
*SONS* *OF* *GOD*

#33 (5) - YHOUYAH (King-Powers) = #85
#41 (4) - HEHAHEL (King-Virtues) = #126
#49 (3) - OHOUEL (King-Principalities) = #175 <-- *VENUS* (7x7 = #49 /
#175) *USE* *OF* *MARRIAGE* *AS* *AN* *ANTHROPIC* *PROTOTYPE*

#57 (2) - NEMAMYAH (King-Archangels) = #232
#65 (1) - DAMBYAN (King-Angels) = #297

ANGEL CORRESPONDENCES TO SATURN (#15)

42 2 58
50 34 18
10 66 26 = #102 / #306

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#2 (9) - ILYEL (Seraphim-Throne) = #2
#10 (8) - ELDYAH (Cherubim-Throne) = #12
#18 (7) - KALIEL (Throne-Throne) = #30
#26 (6) - HAEYEH (Dominion-Throne) = #56
#34 (5) - LAHAHAYH (Powers-Throne) = #90
#42 (4) - MIKEL (Virtues-Throne) = #132
#50 (3) - DANIEL (Principalities-Throne) = #182
#58 (2) - YEILEL (Archangels-Throne) = #240
#66 (1) - MANQYAH (Angels-Throne) = #306

USURPER: #1 {First Number in the Square}
GUIDE: #9 (3x3) {Last Number in the Square}
MYSTERY: #10 {First Number + Last Number}
ADJUSTER: #15 {Total Sum of a Row}
LEADER: #45 {Total Value of All Rows}
REGULATOR: #60 {Total Sum of a Row + Total Sum of All Rows}
GENERAL GOVERNOR: #120 {(Total Sum of a Row Total Sum of All Rows) x 2}
HIGH OVERSEER: #1080 {((Total Sum of a Row Total Sum of All Rows) x 2) x
Last Number in the Square}

HETEROS (GK: ετερους = #1080): STRONGS: G2087 as NUMBER as other or
different and obtained by Pythagorean reduction as the sum of each Magic
Square Line: @1 (#ONE) ... @5 (#TWO) ... #15 [@6 (#THREE)] ... #34 [@7
(#FOUR)] ... #65 [@2 (#FIVE)] ... #111 [@3 (#SIX)] ... #175 [@4 (#SEVEN)]
... #260 [@8 (#EIGHT)] ... #369 [@9 (#NINE)]:—altered, else, next (day),
one, (an-) other, some, strange

As an abnormal clustering which we have observed within the CATEGORY OF
UNDERSTANDING #473 within the Nous: #77 - Natural Guide, Heaven's Reason;
I-Ching: H12 - Obstruction, Standstill (stagnation), Selfish persons;
Tetra: 57 - Guardedness;

74 81 76
79 77 75
78 73 80 = #231 - #108 = #123 / #693 - #369 = #324 {#TEN} AS RETURN TO
GRECO-ROMAN MAGIC SQUARE BEING ITSELF

So as to determine a concise MENS REA by an appreciation obtained from the
lexicon spectrum which will elucidate our understanding of any extent to
the MODUS OPERANDI.

The ankh also known as crux ansata / ansate cross (the Latin for ‘cross
with a handle’) is an ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic ideograph symbolizing
‘life’ from which the Coptic community have stylised their cross.

ORIGIN: First recorded in 1885–90, ankh is from the Egyptian word ʿnh̬
live; apparently at least partially homophonous with word for ‘sandal
strap,’ hence stylized picture of sandal strap became symbol for life.

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[IMAGE: The Egyptian ANKH symbol is shown as the right hand of action on
the god Thoth as the originator of language and number relative to the
ENNEAGRAM as rational PI {22/7} and intrinsic to the geometric conception
of the TETRACTYS {#10}]

The Egyptian {that troubles or oppresses; anguish} gods are often portrayed
carrying it by its loop, or bearing one in each hand, arms crossed over
their chest. The ankh appears in hand or in proximity of almost every deity
in the Egyptian pantheon (including Pharaohs {that disperses; that
spoils}), symbolising the gift of eternal life which they promised to their
worshipers. The loop was frequently painted red and the cross white. There
are many scenes of the ankh being applied to the nostrils of the dead, to
bring them back to life.

The ankh symbol was so prevalent that it has been found in digs as far as
Mesopotamia {between two rivers} and Persia {that cuts or divides; a nail;
a gryphon; a horseman}, and even on the seal of the biblical king Hezekiah
{strength of the Lord}. [<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh>]

JOIN THE #DOTS ON THE REAL SON OF GOD AS EXEMPLAR TRUE #CENTRE OF DIVINE
WILL {INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE VOLUNTĀTIS} AND CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM:

#13 / #1 - Nature Contains Nature {MOTHER (INTELLECTUS AS GENITIVE
VOLUNTĀTIS) - The tongue of decree deciding between them} [#15 / #6 - Form
of Nature]

MENTALISM: 1 x #41 = #41 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} / {#1 - Will, free will,
choice / VIRTUE: 64 meta descriptor prototypes: Omne Datum Optimum {#1 -
Every perfect gift} (1139 CE) / Remember the Sabbath Day},

#14 / #2 - Nature Rejoices in its Nature [#34 / #7 - Engendering Nature]

CORRESPONDENCE: 2 x #41 = #82 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} / {#2 - desire,
inclination: Milites Templi {#2 - Soldiers of the Temple} (1144 CE) /
TOOLS: marriage / Honour Parents},

#15 / #3 - Nature Surmounts Nature [#65 /#2 - Nature Rejoices in it’s
Nature]

VIBRATION: 3 x #41 = #123 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} / {#3 - disposition
towards (something or someone): Militia Dei {#3 - Soldiers of God} (1145
CE) / POSITION: Soldier / Do Not Kill},

3 x #41 = #123 as #6, #2, #50, #10, #5, #50 or #773 as #6, #2, #50, #10,
#5, #700 = ben (H1121): {#75 as #123} 1) son, grandson, child, member of a
group; 1a) son, male child; 1b) grandson; 1c) children (pl. - male and
female); 1d) youth, young men (pl.); 1e) young (of animals); 1f) sons (as
characterisation, ie sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of
God [for angels]; 1g) people (of a nation) (pl.); 1h) of lifeless things,
ie sparks, stars, arrows (fig.); 1i) a member of a guild, order, class;

#16 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature [#111 /#3 - Nature Surmounts
Nature]

POLARITY: 4 x #41 = #164 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} {#4 - favour, affection:
Pastoralis Praeeminentiae {#4 - Pastoral Pre-eminence to monarchs} (1307
CE) / TIME: #CENTRE and #INR / Do Not Commit Adultery (ie. Avoid Heteronomy
Against Autonomy)}, [John 5:39-47 (KJV)]

#17 / #5 - Act of Nature {DOUBLE: #5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming
Nature}} [#175 / #4 - Nature Amended in its Nature]

RHYTHM: 5 x #41 = #205 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} / {#5 - last will,
testament: Faciens misericordiam {#5 - Granting forgiveness} (1308 CE) /
CANON: RHYTHM & HARMONY / Do Not Steal},

#18 / #6 - Form of Nature [#260 / #8 - Transforming Nature]

CAUSE AND EFFECT: 6 x #41 = #246 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} *ANGEL* GABRIEL
[Luke 1:19-38] / {#6 - goal, object, purpose, intention: Ad providam {#6 -
To Foresee / For Providence} (1312 CE) / IMPLEMENTATION: HETEROS (binomial
/ bifurcated) THEORY OF NUMBER / Do Not Bear False Witness}, and

#19 / #7 - Engendering Nature [#369 / #9 - Autonomous Nature]

ENGENDERING / ENUMERATE: 7 x #41 = #287 as #INNER {FEMALE (EGO)} / {#7 -
signification, import: Vox in excelso {#7 - The voice on high} (1312 CE) /
LIMIT: #INR AS TERNIO ANAGRAM / Do Not Covet}.

7 x #41 = #287 as #1, #50, #1, #3, #20, #1, #10, #1, #200 = anagkaios
(G316): {#9 as #356} 1) necessary; 1a) what one can not do without,
indispensable; 1b) connected by bonds of nature or friendship; 1c) what
ought according to the law of duty be done, what is required by the
circumstances; [LATIN definition: VOLUNTĀTIS]

YOUTUBE: “My Name Is Ruin (Gary Numan)”


--
SEE ALSO: *INVALIDATING* *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN* *CATHOLIC*
*CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND*
*FRAUDULENT*

Private Street on the edge of the Central Business District dated 16th
May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice of
an Application for Planning Permit

- <http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>

SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993),
first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie.
Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory
of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven
visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF
NATURE-genesis [James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial
tetragrammaton x 4.5 day = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER
which is an amalgam of the 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as
trinomial tetragrammaton rather than its encapsulated contrived use as the
microcosm to redefine the macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean
[Babylonian] as binomial canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF
NUMBER.

- <http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>

The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006
defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is
permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING
AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN
THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] as
EXISTENCE.

- http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip (Download resources)

After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS
johnny-knowall
2017-12-31 09:52:21 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in article
Post by Ned Latham
On 30 Dec 2017, Ned Latham wrote (in
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their
tribal origins the censors can record those details that are
important to *them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn’t worry that people could
make up any home “address” and no one would be any the wiser?
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth of
Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was born
into?
I wonder what Joseph’s parents thought; especially when Joseph
revealed he wasn’t the father of her baby?
That is definitely not true....it was a kinky three-some session with
the Holy Ghost as you should now! It was a 50-50% chance who the actual
father ended up to be!
In that case your Holy Ghost borders on committing paedophilia, because
Mary was said to be only 12 years old when Jesus was born.
/snip/
A 90 year old man with a 12 year old girl? Ewwwwww!
I'd say that 90 is nothing as compared to 6000 of the Holy Ghost, eh?
Assuming of course that he came into being at the time of the Biblical
Creation...
But then that event has taken place well before US protestant anti-sex
prudery was projected backwards through to the ages where the actual
average human life expectancy hardly went beyond 30 and in general girls
got married at 9-11. So paedophilia in that application is just bah-
humbug!
Possibly; but the Holy Ghost is supposed to be a being with a vastly superior
intelligence. He can move through space and time with ease, and inseminate a
woman (presumably any woman) without intercourse or even becoming visible to
her.

So, why choose a girl aged 12 (or maybe 11 when she conceived)?

If you are equating marriage at a young age with more prehistoric
civilisations, it would appear that the Holy Ghost (and therefore God) had
not matured very much in a sexual sense either.

I wonder if their attitudes have 'grown up' over the last 2000 years?
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 10:00:07 UTC
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You've been told how to distinguish the lunatic's impersomations
from my posts. Pay attention, please. Usenet can do *without*
fools facilitating criminal behaviours.
johnny-knowall
2017-12-31 10:27:16 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
You've been told how to distinguish the lunatic's impersomations
from my posts. Pay attention, please. Usenet can do *without*
fools facilitating criminal behaviours.
So, you discovered a way of backing out of a discussion you don’t like?

“Please Sir, sob, sob; it was someone impersonating me”.

Cool. I might try that trick myself.
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 11:58:57 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
You've been told how to distinguish the lunatic's impersomations
from my posts. Pay attention, please. Usenet can do *without*
fools facilitating criminal behaviours.
So, you discovered a way of backing out of a discussion you don't like?
So. You're a mentally deficient madman, huh? Never occurred to you that
id I didn'y "like" the concersation I coiuld jusy ignire it?

Fact is, you braindead boob, Yap-Yap's posts are distiguishable from
mine not only by the headers, but by there inane content; he's even
stupider than you are.
johnny-knowall
2017-12-31 12:14:42 UTC
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Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
You've been told how to distinguish the lunatic's impersomations
from my posts. Pay attention, please. Usenet can do *without*
fools facilitating criminal behaviours.
So, you discovered a way of backing out of a discussion you don't like?
So. You're a mentally deficient madman, huh? Never occurred to you that
id I didn'y "like" the concersation I coiuld jusy ignire it?
No, because on uk.p.m. only the inconvenient truth is ignored.
Post by Ned Latham
Fact is, you braindead boob, Yap-Yap's posts are distiguishable from
mine not only by the headers, but by there inane content; he's even
stupider than you are.
Impossible.

Ask Rowing. He knows everything.
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 12:49:40 UTC
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Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
You've been told how to distinguish the lunatic's impersomations
from my posts. Pay attention, please. Usenet can do *without*
fools facilitating criminal behaviours.
So, you discovered a way of backing out of a discussion you don't like?
So. You're a mentally deficient madman, huh? Never occurred to you that
if I didn't "like" the conversation I could just ignire it?
No,
It figures.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Fact is, you braindead boob, Yap-Yap's posts are distiguishable from
mine not only by the headers, but by their inane content; he's even
stupider than you are.
Impossible.
Ask Rowing. He knows everything.
Clearky, he doesn't know Yap-Yap.

Ned Latham
2017-12-31 03:08:28 UTC
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That was tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög"),
spewing forth its usual obsessive ranting impersonation of me.
When you see an article with my name on it, check the headers:
my email address and Messgae-ID have matching domains. Yap-Yap's
imitations do not.

Check the Newsgroups: and Followup-To: headers too: he's a
sneaky little lunatic.
In that case your Holy Ghost borders on committing paedophilia,
because Mary was said to be only 12 years old when Jesus was born.
Yap-Yap wouldn't mind that; he's a stalinist: doesn't care about
anyone or any thing beyond himself and his delusaions.
Given that your said ghost could have chosen from millions of
older women, it is looking somewhat dodgy given the current
trend for bringing child sexual abuse cases, don't you think?
On the vutton, Johnny: Yap-Yap don't think.
I have discovered that the reason we will have difficulty knowing
of Joseph's parents' views, because he was 90 years old at the
birth (something that seems not to be portrayed in many Nativity
scenes at this time of year).
Why ever not, I wonder.
I'm beginning to think
That's good.
this religion stuff is not for me.
Nor *anyone* sane. Pity about pore ole Yap-Tap: we can't find a
sane dog willing to bite him.
A 90 year old man with a 12 year old girl? Ewwwwww!
How about Mohammed? His fourth wife was 7 when they were married
(they say she was 9 when he first fucked her).
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 02:42:13 UTC
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Tne ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
it was a kinky three-some session with the Holy Ghost as you should
now! It was a 50-50% chance who the actual father ended up to be!
Try to get it in your pointy little head, Yap-Yap: there is no such
thing as a god, and the jesus story is a pack of lies.

Now I know lies are all you understand, but are you really so stupid
as to believe them?

Although... Uncle Joe believed those same lies too. Are you emulating
hom in everything, you moronic stalinist thug?
Ned Latham
2017-12-31 02:13:57 UTC
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Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Johnny-Knowall
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Good
Getting the story wrong is good? Get it into your pointy luttle
head, moron: the story is that they went to Bethlehem for the
purposes of the census, not to escape some mythical "persecution".
Although, in any intelligent society the census enumerator would
come to their home; and they wouldn't have to go anywhere.
LOL. You think modern societies are intelligent? Look around you.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
That way, the enumerator can record their place of residence as
well as their names and gender(s).
And in a society that recognises people's attachments to their tribal
origins the censors can record those details that are important to
*them* rather than to modern Westerners.
I see.
Presumably the society you speak of didn't worry that people could
make up any home "address" and no one would be any the wiser?
Do please open the box and install yoiur brain.

This is about the Israel 2000 years ago, They weren't organised in
anything *like* the way modern Western societies are.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
And, if Mary and Joseph were not married at the time of the birth
of Jesus; what does that say about the morals of the society he was
born into?
Nothing. There have been many societies in which prospective brides
are tested for fertitliy.
Post by Johnny-Knowall
I wonder what Joseph's parents thought; especially when Joseph
revealed he wasn't the father of her baby?
That part of the story was invented long after Joshua's death.
gramps
2017-12-09 01:45:24 UTC
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On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 2:44:32 PM UTC-8, Byker wrote:

For fourteen years, the respected comedian Dave Allen signed-off every night with "--- and may your god go with you."

I wish the same to everyone reading this forum.
Byker
2017-12-09 19:23:49 UTC
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Post by gramps
the respected comedian Dave Allen
I miss him as much as Benny Hill. Here locally, his show followed Benny's
five nights a week for several years: https://tinyurl.com/yd33nz38
T. anomalum
2017-12-09 01:56:57 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
Well, given the endemic blood-thirst, the mindless bully boy tactics and
the limitless ideological extremism of your hate mates in the BNP, the
National Action and the National Socialist Movement that is quite likely.
--
incinerating your arrogant ignorace
abelard
2017-12-09 12:01:10 UTC
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Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...

he believes brits have the same status
--
www.abelard.org
saracene
2017-12-09 12:09:45 UTC
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Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
abelard
2017-12-09 12:11:17 UTC
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Post by saracene
Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
he even has one for a head...including a couple of wayward leaves
--
www.abelard.org
saracene
2017-12-09 12:27:11 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by saracene
Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
he even has one for a head...including a couple of wayward leaves
--
www.abelard.org
Bloody republican yank.
abelard
2017-12-09 12:36:31 UTC
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Post by saracene
Post by abelard
Post by saracene
Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
he even has one for a head...including a couple of wayward leaves
Bloody republican yank.
i can't help it that he's a dolt...

a thousand years of inbreeding....

he got himself a step up and he traded it in....

maybe the next generation will come out a bit better...you
can always hope..

frogland is having a major emote of johnny holiday....i don't
begrudge you your emote idols
--
www.abelard.org
saracene
2017-12-09 13:06:51 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by saracene
Post by abelard
Post by saracene
Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
he even has one for a head...including a couple of wayward leaves
Bloody republican yank.
i can't help it that he's a dolt...
a thousand years of inbreeding....
he got himself a step up and he traded it in....
maybe the next generation will come out a bit better...you
can always hope..
frogland is having a major emote of johnny holiday....i don't
begrudge you your emote idols
Charles has a suitably regal mentality. His peutualnce about his boiled egss is a sign of that. He will make a good enough king. Wills unfortunately is a wimp, though he's got an attractive missus happy to moon for the cameras. My hopes are on George though I won't live to see it.
finally ditched mimo
2017-12-09 17:59:42 UTC
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Post by saracene
Post by abelard
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
Cabbages never did him any harm.
Oh, I don’t know...

Try remaining in a room with someone who ate a large amount of cabbage a few
hours earlier.

I doubt that an HRH title gives immunity from smelly farts.
Graham T
2017-12-09 13:02:58 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
abelard
2017-12-09 13:06:48 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:02:58 +0000, Graham T
Post by Graham T
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
as long as you rely on tough fit men to protect
your snowflake arse

you will have the same status as sheep in a pen
--
www.abelard.org
saracene
2017-12-09 13:10:51 UTC
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Post by Graham T
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
I expect your a republican too, probably with Papist Irish blood.

But if it was ok for Orwell to giht for communism in Spain, whi is it so bad for Mulsims to fight for Islamism in Syria or Iraq?
Byker
2017-12-09 17:44:12 UTC
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I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids in
their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to bits
here too.
We'll see how long Britain remains "multicultural" after a "martyr" turns
the little prince into cube steak. Chances are within a year -- two years
tops -- there won't be a Muslim to be had anywhere in the UK and probably in
the Commonwealth, all having been rounded up, interned, deported, or run out
of the country. The mudslimes will be grateful they weren't sent up
chimneys.

There is that saying, "You must be lucky always..."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4790594/isis-threat-prince-george-royal-family/

https://nypost.com/2014/11/07/plot-to-assassinate-queen-elizabeth-thwarted-by-bobbies/

https://nypost.com/2017/10/29/isis-supporters-make-chilling-threat-against-prince-george/

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/times-people-tried-to-kill-the-british-royal-family.html/

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/david-cameron-reveals-islamic-state-plot-to-kill-the-queen-royals/news-story/bcdcbeee839679ff912ee17a77d5e06c


Maybe Charles is trying appeasement of his own:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/245324/british-royal-family-and-islamist-terrorists-howard-rotberg
Petzl
2017-12-09 20:41:56 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:02:58 +0000, Graham T
Post by Graham T
Post by abelard
Post by Byker
He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
he's the one who talks to cabbages...
he believes brits have the same status
I can't see the problem. If it's ok for us to drop bombs on Muslim kids
in their own country then it's ok for Muslims to blow Georgey Porgie to
bits here too.
It's a duty to eradicate Islam before it eradicates you
You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not
being open-minded... You're being conquered."
Loading Image...

Italian immigration was an advance point for Australia, followed by
Greek immigration, then Asian all provided positive growth, benefits.

The failure has and is Moslem immigration where over 30 years they are
planted in West Sydney it is a proven disaster which is forbidden to
be spoken about.
Reality is
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!

Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth
they call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Facts are:-
This Trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammed when he
and his marauding followers fled Mecca in AD 622 to Yathrib now called
Medina. Claiming “refugee status”
Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today!

ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t
do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
Mohammad himself was once a (claimed) refugee taken in by the Jewish
run city of Medina, then called Yathrib (fleeing Mecca AD 622).
https://www.britannica.com/event/Hijrah-Islam
Within five years, Mohammed (joining with other invading “marauding
refugees”) had driven out, executed, or enslaved every Jew living in
Medina
https://www.britannica.com/place/Medina-Saudi-Arabia

For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the
worlds “refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!

Still the same today!

This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY?
Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror!
It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is
obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they
had done even a little bit of study they would have found a
bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?

Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old
still used today.
The success of thier blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their
Calender year begining AD 622

"Our" repomse is to declare a war on "terror"?
1: You can’t declare war on a tactic – TERROR.
2: You can’t win if the “Good Guys” your soldiers are dying for are
just a different type of bad guy.
3: You can’t win if you promote the problem – ISLAM.
4: And you can’t win overseas if you are losing at home

--
Petzl
Only one turnout that matters and that was on election day and Trump won.
So all you lefties sucking on your sour grapes. all the snowflakes cry babies,
a lot of them in the media who have been sent insane by Trumps mere presence in Washington.
Well they can just sit back and lap it up ,

Because the Donald has won,

And why because he's going to drain the swamp,
he's going to get rid of all the self serving semi-corrupt mob in Washington
and give the American people a new direction on border protection,
on job creation, on foreign policy,

Trump stands for a non-interventionist foreign policy,
something the left have been calling for since Vietnam.
The truth is they can't see that because Trump has offended the cult of identity politics,
judging everyone by their race gender and sexuality.

Trump judges people on their character, their work ethic
and has a very good chance to make America great again.
saracene
2017-12-09 20:58:15 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It's a duty to eradicate Islam before it eradicates you
Are you a Jew?
Ördög
2017-12-09 21:36:07 UTC
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Petz declared
It's a duty to eradicate Islam ...
/rest of the verbal vomit omitted for sake of civility and sanity/

Thanks for that Petz.
What a lovely Islamophobic rant in the name of demo-ing unlimited Xtian
love in the name of the pre-Xmas spirit.

There are no more convincing arguments against fundamentalist Xtianity
than your hate tirades!
--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with idiots like Petz
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Byker
2017-12-09 22:37:54 UTC
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Post by Petzl
It's a duty to eradicate Islam before it eradicates you
You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not
being open-minded... You're being conquered."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ-4y-3UMAAVWQD.jpg
I think Islam hates us: https://tinyurl.com/y849y43a

Why stop at Isis when we could bomb the whole Muslim world?
https://tinyurl.com/ycosy7jc

How to stop jihad in the West

-- Call for profiling of Muslims at airports and in hiring in professions in
which national security and public safety could be compromised.

-- Call for immediate investigation into foreign mosque funding in the West
and for new legislation making foreign funding of mosques in non-Muslim
nations illegal.

-- Call for surveillance of mosques and regular inspections of mosques in
the U.S. and other non-Muslim nations to look for pro-violence materials.
Any mosque advocating jihad or any aspects of Shariah that conflict with
constitutional freedoms and protections should be closed.

-- Call for curriculum and Islam-related materials in textbooks and museums
to describe the Islamic doctrine and history accurately, including its
violent doctrines and 1,400-year war against unbelievers.

-- Call for a halt of foreign aid to Islamic nations with Shariah-based
constitutions and/or governments.

-- Denounce the use of Shariah law in any Western court or nation.

-- Advocate deportation hearings against non-citizens who promote jihad in
our nations.

-- Call for an immediate halt of immigration by Muslims into nations that do
not currently have a Muslim majority population.

-- Call for laws providing that anyone seeking citizenship in the United
States should be asked if he or she supports Shariah law, and investigated
for ties to pro-Shariah groups. If so, citizenship should not be granted.

-- Call for the cancellation of citizenship or permanent residency status
for anyone who leaves the country of his residence to travel for the purpose
of engaging in jihad activity, and for the refusal of re-entry into his
country of residence after that jihad activity.

-- Call for careful investigation of Muslims resident in non-Muslim
countries who have obtained naturalized citizenship or permanent residency
status, to ensure that that status was not obtained under false pretenses.

-- Call for a halt to any mosque building in the United States and follow
the advice, at the state level, that Publius Huldah has outlined regarding
the practice of Islam (http://tinyurl.com/mljxh7p).

-- Stop the support of any and all Muslim-founded or owned private
businesses, along with or businesses that support them.

If these steps are implemented, the jihad in the West will be stopped in its
tracks.

If you are around an immediate jihad threat, well, then a .45, .223, or
various other calibers of weapons should do the trick in the immediate
circumstances. ;-)
Post by Petzl
This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth!
http://youtu.be/81P0-jQSiN4
A woman from upstate New York has written a blog piece as a warning about
what happens when Muslim refugees begin to “take over” an American city. In
this particular case, the city is Utica, New York. The city of Utica was
mostly Anglo-Saxon until someone in government, just like was the case with
Minneapolis, Minnesota and the Somalian Refugees decided that wasn’t a good
thing, so they started shipping in scumbag Muslim refugees to overtake the
Anglo-Saxon population.

This is the blog post in its entirety, long but well worth the read. The
link is still good: http://bit.ly/2rFkCT6
Byker
2017-12-09 22:52:45 UTC
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Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth they
call taqiyya kitman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
The Hadith makes it clear that Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in
order to defeat them or protect themselves:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/calling-spade-spade-islamic-extermism-by-any-other-name-12197
ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t do!
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
Islam is genocide: https://tinyurl.com/yandaflb
For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds
“refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created!
Still the same today!
We can’t save Muslims from themselves. We can only save ourselves from their
violence. The permanent Muslim refugee crisis will never stop being our
crisis unless we close the door: https://tinyurl.com/znllf6r

How Islam is a danger to Liberals

-- Islam is a threat to women, because Islamic teachings allow for the
beating of women “from whom you fear disobedience,” as well as the
downgrading of a woman’s testimony and inheritance rights. The Qur’an
sanctions polygamy, child marriage, and even the sexual enslavement of
captive non-Muslim women. These are not just teachings that “Islamophobes”
have discovered in dusty corners of the Islamic holy book that no Muslim
today takes seriously; women face all kinds of oppression throughout the
Islamic world that the oppressors directly justify by reference to Islam.

-- Islam is a threat to Jews, because in all too many Islamic teachings and
traditions, Jews are the villains of the piece. The Qur’an depicts the Jews
as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims.
They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82);
being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65;
5:59-60; 7:166); and more. In line with this, Jews are threatened in Europe
to an extent they have not been since the days of Hitler. And it’s getting
worse by the day.

-- Islam is a threat to Christians, for it mandates that they must either
convert to Islam, submit to Islamic hegemony, and be killed – the same
triple choice offered to the Jews. The Christian communities of the Middle
East, some of which dated back to the time of Christ, were decimated, as
jihad groups targeted Christians wholesale as symbols of the hated U.S. and
West.

-- Islam is a threat to secular liberals, because although noting the fact
will get one dismissed as a “far-right” “Islamophobe,” Islam really does
have doctrines mandating the conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims, and
the major Muslim organizations in the United States really do behave as if
they would like nothing better than the weakening and ultimate downfall of
the U.S. government and free society, by opposing virtually all
counterterror initiatives; polarizing American society by claiming falsely
that Muslims are the victims of large-scale persecution and harassment in
the U.S.; and stigmatizing all those who call attention to the jihad threat
and the devastation wrought in Europe by mass Muslim migration as “racists”
and “hatemongers.”

-- Islam is a threat to secular Muslims, because many have come to the West
as a refuge from Sharia, and now the oppression they left behind in their
home countries has followed them to their new homes. Islam in all its
traditional and classic formulations mandates a death penalty for someone
who is sane, adult and leaves Islam voluntarily. This discourages apostasy,
obviously, but it also makes for untold numbers of silent apostates who live
outwardly as Muslims while dissenting inwardly. Islamic hardliners target
these people, when they find them, no less than they target open apostates.
Byker
2017-12-09 22:57:02 UTC
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This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY? Moslems and Islam are of course
synonymous with terror! It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every
politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring
in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a
bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.?
Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still
used today.
The success of their blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their
Calendar year beginning AD 622
A few more ways for the West to rid itself of Islam:

Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy, forced marriage,
"honor" violence or female genital mutilation.

Reintroduce sedition laws (where repealed) and prosecute all transgressors
and enablers.

Legislate Western culture and value sets as dominant.

Prohibit all manifestations of sharia law and all dissemination and advocacy
of sharia law.

Abolish sharia courts where they exist.

Remove charitable status from mosques and other Muslim money-raising
institutions.

Remove all restrictions on freedom of speech except for incitement to
violence; repeal all hate speech laws.

Stop all further immigration, including immigration based on family
reunification.

Muslims may privately owe their religious loyalty to Islam, however they
must publicly declare their civic loyalty to their country of citizenship.

Ban the public call to prayer.

Disperse groups praying in the street or other public places.

Deport all foreign-born convicted terrorists, regardless of human rights
legislation.

Former and new immigrants must sign a Pledge of Allegiance to a stated set
of values, under threat of losing their citizenship/ immigrant status and
being deported for breaking the pledge.

Naturalized citizens who have violated the criminal code will be
de-naturalized and deported.

Reclaim universities, schools, churches, the media, local councils, the
civil service and the professions. This requires an ideological purge, in
which advocates of anti-Western and pro-Islam ideologies are removed from
their posts in educational, cultural and media institutions.

Institute a counter-multiculturalism ideology in the schools and society,
teaching the people that multiculturalism is an ideology aimed at
dismantling our culture.

Repeal all laws, programs, and policies that advance group rights and
multiculturalism. Everyone is equal under the law and there is no basis for
making some more equal than others based on their skin color or religion.

Discard the history books which describe our culture and civilization as one
of genocide and oppression. Rebuild the national identities of our children
via the teaching of unbiased truth thus allowing them possession of a
cultural heritage without shame.

Promote each Western country's national language as the language of
government and require immigrants to learn it within a given time period.

Encourage family values and child-rearing to reverse our demographic
decline.

Prohibit foreign countries from financing, investing in and contributing to
all religious, cultural and educational institutions.

Outlaw sharia-compliant financial instruments.

Outlaw Islamic state ownership of sensitive Western assets such as stock
exchanges, ports, security firms, defense contractors and such.

Declare that Islam is incompatible with 21st century, secular, liberal
democracy.

Monitor mosques for content and close mosques found to be promoting
terrorism, sedition or homophobic violence.

Stop the building of any new mosques funded by foreign states.

Remove local government funding for all radical Muslim organizations and
associations in the public sphere.

Expel all foreign-born imams.

Legislate to ensure all domestic imams speak the native language within the
mosque.

Obtain reciprocity from all Islamic countries with respect to existing
foreign-funded mosques in each country (i.e., for existing mosques to remain
open, demand the right for equivalent numbers of churches/ synagogues in
respective countries).

Obtain reciprocal rights to proselytize in each Islamic trading country.

Obtain reciprocal rights for foreigners visiting Islamic countries including
freedoms related to dress codes, food and liquor consumption, property
ownership, right to worship and others.

Confiscate all Western-held funds for Islamic states that finance terrorism
and promote sharia in the West.

Limit child benefit to a maximum of two children.

Make tax evasion and benefit fraud deportable offences.

Since one eighth of zakat goes to jihad make it illegal or at the very least
remove its charitable status.

Regularly inspect takeaways and curry houses for environmental health and
safety and immigration status of employees.

Taxi drivers as part of licensing process to be checked and refused licenses
if found to have criminal records. DNA sample to be taken at application as
they often use brothers and cousins.

No use of translators or signs in foreign languages.

Set up tax task force to tackle tax fraud of businesses paid in cash, and a
special database to tackle insurance fraud.

Set up money laundering task force.

Seizure of family assets for not informing authorities of jihadis in family.

Reform Council Tax to better represent numbers of adults in family
accommodation, e.g., a 25% surcharge for every adult over 18 where more than
2 in a house.

All streets and buildings with Islamic names to be renamed.

Money transfers to Islamic countries to be vetted/ taxed and provable as
being from legitimate source, otherwise seized.

Make harboring or employment of illegal immigrants a deportable offence and/
or subject to confiscation of assets.

Any GP providing false information on medical certificates for insurance
claims or to prevent deportation to be struck off GMC.

Abolish the Equality and Human Rights Commission

Make it illegal to marry cousins and deport any immigrant who does so.

End 'positive discrimination' (Affirmative Action) in employment, etc.

Increase costs of soft courses such as Islamic studies/ cultural studies/
media studies and use the money to subsidize hard sciences, technology,
engineering, etc.

Council houses to be allocated not on basis of need but on local roots and
time spent on waiting list.

Cash inducements for voluntary repatriation.

Immigrant sex offenders to be deported.

Disbar Muslims from employment at airports and other security sensitive
installations.

Support India in combating jihad.

Put legal height restriction on mosques; minarets above this height to be
reduced.

No further mosques to be built.

Any Muslim going abroad on jihad should not be allowed back into the
country.

Friends, relatives and associates of Muslims found guilty of spreading
sedition etc. to be investigated. If there is reasonable suspicion that they
knew about the activity of the guilty person and did not inform the
authorities, then they too should be deported.

Shut down Muslim-only prayer rooms in public spaces (universities, airports,
hospitals etc.).

Withdraw the right to citizenship through birth (perhaps make it dependent
on at least one grandparent born in the UK).

End dual citizenship.

Close down mosques and Muslim facilities in prisons.

Keep Muslim prisoners separate from others.

Ban halal slaughter/ meat.

Ban the burka/hijab.

Elect new leaders dedicated to implementing the above measures.

http://tinyurl.com/qeko3vb (link sure went dead fast!)
Basil Jet
2017-12-10 00:36:26 UTC
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Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
Petzl
2017-12-10 01:17:36 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
--
Petzl
The ONLY thing "Islamic" about "Halal Certification" is they both fund terrorism through what is described as "Zakat" a tax to fund those fighting for Allah.

NOTHING about "Halal Certification" is Halal
To say otherwise is to call Allah. his messenger liars the Quran lies
Devout Moslem's will not touch "Halal Certification" as it is putting itself above Allah and. his messenger .
There is a curse in the Quran for those that ever touch "Halal Certification"
https://quran.com/5/87-97?translations=20
Government Shill #2
2017-12-10 03:02:59 UTC
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Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).

Deuteronomy
22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay
hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; [That is, he raped her]

22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty
shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he
may not put her away all his days.

Shill #2
--
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good
people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people
to do evil things, that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg
Petzl
2017-12-10 07:25:17 UTC
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Ördög
2017-12-10 09:57:21 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
But quite apparently YOU don't! Why is that?
Don't you want to be enlightened? Does it not fit in well with your
affliction to racism and bigotry???
--
Ördög ---- Your newsgroup Devil
Bruce S
2017-12-10 18:11:16 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
abelard
2017-12-10 23:11:20 UTC
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Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Post by Bruce S
of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
--
www.abelard.org
Petzl
2017-12-11 00:02:26 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop trying
to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Anti-Christians particularly Moslem's don't like evidence or
presenting images of God.

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Even the Dead Sea Scrolls Moslems are trying to destroy
"The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge of both Judaism and
Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form of Judaism and
provide a wealth of comparative material for New Testament scholars,
including many important parallels to the Jesus movement. They show
Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have been called the
evolutionary link between the two. "
Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
of (one version of) the Ten Commandments, since
they're OT? Or didn't you realize that? While you're at it, you'll
stop quoting from the scribblings of superstitious primitives in such
nonsense as Leviticus to support your bigotry and hatred? Good deal!
I look forward to a world where Christians restrict their incoherent
nonsense to the Beatitudes. Maybe you can all stop (yes, I realize
it's only the silliest who do this) pretending the Earth is only a few
thousand years old, or that some 600 year old guy built a boat to save
all the species of the entire planet from a flood your psychopathic
mass murderer magical invisible friend caused. Or is that too much to
ask?
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Bruce S
2017-12-11 00:51:50 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
abelard
2017-12-11 10:17:25 UTC
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Post by Bruce S
Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
are you an islamy?
--
www.abelard.org
Bruce S
2017-12-11 15:50:43 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by abelard
Post by Bruce S
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
So, you (and the rest of those who claim Christianity) will stop
trying to put up graven images
do you suppose that means photos and sketches?
Of course different Bibles word it differently, but mine says: "or any
likeness of anything", so yes, it would include photos and sketches.
However, in the above I was referring to the repeated attempts of
Christians to put up actual *carved* (aka "graven") images of the Ten,
though I should have included creches, "saint" carvings, crosses with or
without writhing victims, and the rest.
are you an islamy?
I don't know what you mean by that, but if you're talking about
religious position, I think you'll find mine obvious in my posts.
Government Shill #2
2017-12-10 22:59:17 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Really? Because Jesus is reported to have said:

Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.

Shill #2
--
Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there
wouldn't be religious people. - Doris Egan
abelard
2017-12-10 23:13:41 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:59:17 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
does that mean you have to return to 'go'?
Post by Government Shill #2
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
you can write on it...as long as it's not rude words...
--
www.abelard.org
Petzl
2017-12-11 00:03:53 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:59:17 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of their
Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of their
bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the old,
only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
The old is not written off
The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge of both Judaism and
Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form of Judaism and
provide a wealth of comparative material for New Testament scholars,
including many important parallels to the Jesus movement. They show
Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have been called the
evolutionary link between the two.
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:

"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Bruce S
2017-12-11 00:55:04 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:59:17 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:02:59 +1100, Government Shill #2
Post by Government Shill #2
Post by Petzl
A problem with Moslem's is they have little understanding of
their Quran (much of it old testament)
A problem with Christians is they have little understanding of
their bible (much of it old testament).
Nope Christians regard the New Testament as fulfillment of the
old, only using it for enlightenment.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily
I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle
shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So it would seem you can't just write off the Old Testament.
The old is not written off The Dead Sea Scrolls enhance our knowledge
of both Judaism and Christianity. They represent a non-rabbinic form
of Judaism and provide a wealth of comparative material for New
Testament scholars, including many important parallels to the Jesus
movement. They show Christianity to be rooted in Judaism and have
been called the evolutionary link between the two.
That sure seems evasive. So, Petzl, do you believe that Jesus was
correct, and not a single minor detail of the old laws would change
until the end of the world (even though he also told people to go ahead
and violate some of those laws), or do you believe you should ignore
Jesus entirely and ignore whatever OT rules you don't like? I hope the
latter, because Cafeteria Christianity is far preferable to any attempt
to actually follow the rules of that primitive cult.
abelard
2017-12-10 11:18:56 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
not in europe it ain't...

but then in the states, going to 'the law' is a reflex response
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or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
well, male genital mutilation isn't quite as violent or dangerous...
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saracene
2017-12-10 11:24:21 UTC
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Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
not in europe it ain't...
but then in the states, going to 'the law' is a reflex response
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
well, male genital mutilation isn't quite as violent or dangerous...
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"God's covenant". filthy snippa, that God.
abelard
2017-12-10 11:37:20 UTC
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Post by saracene
Post by abelard
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
"honor" violence
That is vigorously prosecuted already
not in europe it ain't...
but then in the states, going to 'the law' is a reflex response
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Byker
or female genital mutilation.
FGM is not ordered by Islam and is a cultural practice in certain
countries. Pakistanis have no FGM. Male genital mutilation, on the other
hand, is ordered by Islam, so why not vigorously prosecute that? Was the
list perhaps written by a Jew?
well, male genital mutilation isn't quite as violent or dangerous...
"God's covenant". filthy snippa, that God.
the monkeys project their prurient curiosity

why blame god for that? why even blame the monkeys
unless they have your dick in a vise
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de chucka
2017-12-10 19:40:46 UTC
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Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Marriage is a legal term in this context
abelard
2017-12-10 19:51:56 UTC
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Vigorously prosecute all those involved in polygamy,
Polygamous marriages are not allowed here
of course it's 'allowed' as long as you don't ask permission
from the state
Marriage is a legal term in this context
what isn't?

is 'polygamous marriage' a 'legal term'?
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de chucka
2017-12-10 20:01:11 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
finally ditched mimo
2017-12-10 20:23:18 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
de chucka
2017-12-10 20:28:36 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
and if he went to a septic school the biggest danger would be someone
going postal and killing a few kids
Fran
2017-12-11 02:06:17 UTC
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He did last year: https://tinyurl.com/y8vtmau5
https://tinyurl.com/yddwa8n4
Lets face it it George has a greter chance of being sexually abuse by a
Christian priest looking at he UK numbers
And probably just as much of a chance of being abused by an MP.
And givne that we're talking British MPS, that MP will probably be
wearing a suspender belt and fishnet stockings....
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