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2018-01-10 17:27:48 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
The letter, signed by renowned French actress Catherine Deneuve as well as writers, historians, journalists and entertainers, was published in Le Monde to “we defend freedom to importune, indispensable to sexual freedom.”
“Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or back-handedly, is not — nor is men being gentlemanly a macho attack,” the letter said.
“Men have been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs when all they did was touch someone’s knee or try to steal a kiss.”
James Franco accused of inappropriate sexual behavior

French actress Catherine Deneuve and 100 other women decried the #MeToo movement.
The #MeToo was relaunched in the midst of a slew of sexual harassment and assault allegations that overtook Hollywood and took down legends including Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey.
More than 300 actresses subsequently launched Time’s Up, a new initiative aiming to fight sexual harassment and assault in the workplace.
But the open letter argues that the campaigns have led to “denunciations and public accusations of people who, without giving them the possibility of responding or defending themselves, have been placed on exactly the same level as sex offenders.”
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2018-01-10 18:08:13 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.

Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.

I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
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2018-01-10 18:15:39 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
Idiot. Would you like to see Oprah for president? She is ideal as the braindead lefties' answer to Trump.

Here's Melanie Mcdonagh. I am getting to like her much more than I used to.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/a-french-counterblast-to-the-metoo-protest-culture-a3736526.html

Thank God for the French. The open letter to Le Monde by Catherine Deneuve and 99 other prominent Frenchwomen on the subject of sex, sexual harassment and feminism was not just a rebuke by women getting on a bit to the hashtag generation; it was a counterblast to the Americanisation of the culture of protest.

The Harvey Weinstein phenomenon was American, and so too was the backlash, the MeToo culture of victimhood and the hashtag activism. The French women are, of course, dealing with their own version of that post Weinstein protest movement also – it’s billed as #Balancetonporc, which is even ruder. But the new backlash, which we saw most recently this week at the Golden Globes awards — over to you, Oprah — is essentially American. And in this particular culture war, you can sign me up with the French.

It would be easy to dismiss Catherine D — the original Belle de Jour — and the cohort as women with a generational problem with contemporary feminism, so embedded in a sexist culture they’re reliant on it for their self-worth. Or as Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein of harassment, observed: “Catherine Deneuve and other French women tell the world how their interiorised misogyny has lobotomised them to the point of no return.” Lovely. Actually, it’s telling that the response to the Le Monde letter has mostly been Twitter length; the original is an actual argument.

You can see how this debate is going: old against young, millennial feminists versus first wave ones. Yet the letter raises obvious issues.

One is that there is a distinction between a clumsy pass, a brushed knee, say, and an actual physical assault: “Insistent or clumsy pick up attempts are not a crime “ni la galanterie une aggression machiste”.

In a sane world, that wouldn’t need saying. The other is the unsayable reality that the physical nature of sexuality is in some sense aggressive. They also point out that the logical conclusion of the new sexual culture is that couples will have to sign up for consent to sex by app or in writing; a bill being considered in Sweden suggests it’s not hyperbole.

Mind you, though the women are right to think it wrong that a man’s career should be ruined by “touching a knee, trying to steal a kiss” context is all: if the man in question is someone who has the power to advance your career or sack you, then the stolen kiss really is a matter of power as much as desire.

No matter. On the real issue, Deneuve et al are right. The backlash against any manifestation of male interest in women, or male desire, seems to make victims out of grown women and it threatens to make life less joyous, or at any rate, less interesting. Je Suis Catherine …if only.
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2018-01-10 18:32:35 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-01-10 18:48:20 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
link the other day.
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2018-01-10 20:15:52 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
link the other day.
Probably explains the "BBC is a gem" howler he came up with the other day. Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
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2018-01-10 21:00:51 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
link the other day.
Probably explains the "BBC is a gem" howler he came up with the other day. Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
Come to think of it, a few days ago he said he was in north America, so
maybe on holiday, or maybe Google confusing the location?
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2018-01-11 09:10:23 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against
the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do
not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
link the other day.
Probably explains the "BBC is a gem" howler he came up with the other
day. Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party
at prayer...
Come to think of it, a few days ago he said he was in north America, so
maybe on holiday, or maybe Google confusing the location?
He did say previously that he lives in Canada.
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2018-01-12 14:28:05 UTC
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the
#MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do not
object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
link the other day.
Probably explains the "BBC is a gem" howler he came up with the other day.
Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at
prayer...
Come to think of it, a few days ago he said he was in north America, so
maybe on holiday, or maybe Google confusing the location?

==

Canada IS part of North America:))
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2018-01-11 02:16:47 UTC
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 12:15:54 PM UTC-8, True Blue wrote:

Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...


My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
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2018-01-11 08:17:27 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
That's a joke yes?
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2018-01-11 09:06:13 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.

In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
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2018-01-11 09:12:48 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
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2018-01-11 10:11:09 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
I don’t know either, but there is at least one lesbian imam - Seyran
Ates.She seems to have banned the burka in her mosque.

Needless to say, she has received a multitude of death threats from around
the world.
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2018-01-11 10:20:33 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
I don’t know either, but there is at least one lesbian imam - Seyran
Ates.She seems to have banned the burka in her mosque.
Needless to say, she has received a multitude of death threats from around
the world.
Aye, they must be enraged. Or outraged. I'm not sure if there's a
difference. A brave woman, though.
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2018-01-11 14:14:45 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
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2018-01-11 14:16:49 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
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2018-01-11 14:18:39 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
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2018-01-11 14:22:37 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
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2018-01-11 14:25:13 UTC
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers

surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...

this discrimination has to stop

vote for corvyd
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
i just know arsenal and england regard it as valued exercise
to be watched by billions from their chip fuelled sofas
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
i just know arsenal and england regard it as valued exercise
to be watched by billions from their chip fuelled sofas
Ah, what the chaps on the shop floor call 'footy'? I don't know - has
saracene ever expressed the slightest interest in it?
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
i just know arsenal and england regard it as valued exercise
to be watched by billions from their chip fuelled sofas
Ah, what the chaps on the shop floor call 'footy'? I don't know - has
saracene ever expressed the slightest interest in it?
when he does, you will find his views are 'unbalanced' as usual
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
i just know arsenal and england regard it as valued exercise
to be watched by billions from their chip fuelled sofas
Ah, what the chaps on the shop floor call 'footy'? I don't know - has
saracene ever expressed the slightest interest in it?
when he does, you will find his views are 'unbalanced' as usual
Now you're just being mean. For shame!
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
i just know arsenal and england regard it as valued exercise
to be watched by billions from their chip fuelled sofas
Ah, what the chaps on the shop floor call 'footy'? I don't know - has
saracene ever expressed the slightest interest in it?
when he does, you will find his views are 'unbalanced' as usual
Now you're just being mean. For shame!
me? i'm just practical
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party
at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?

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You do know Saracene has lost a leg? abe is 'at it' again:(
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party
at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even
though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
==
You do know Saracene has lost a leg? abe is 'at it' again:(
Yes, I know. Good job we have one spare.
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party
at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even
though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
==
You do know Saracene has lost a leg? abe is 'at it' again:(
Yes, I know. Good job we have one spare.

==

DAN!!! :(
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party
at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
The C of E is just a small rump of grey haired robots that are trained to
respond with the same utterances whenever their senior people speak.
In some areas, they are still dead against women vicars, even
though 75% of
their congregation are women.
Are there more women imams than women vicars? :-) I really don't know,
but it seems unlikely.
in the c of e?
I don't believe there are any imams, never mind women ones, in the CoE.
but can you be sure?
No, but it seems improbable.
so do women vicars, jonathon welby and women footballers
surely the c of e should be practicing diversity....
It's a world gone mad, I tell you...
i'm looking forward to saracen playing kickball for england...
What is this 'kickball' of which you speak?
==
You do know Saracene has lost a leg? abe is 'at it' again:(
how careless


try lost property
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I was on a tour of some churches in the USA when the guide invited us to say what denomination we belonged to.
Of several ex-Brits in the group, one said "I have no religion; I'm C-of-E".
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Left Blighty in '62 and still thinks the Church is the Tory Party at prayer...
My god, you mean the Church of England is no longer Tory?
welby is an appointee of bliar
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Canada :-)

Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
Canada is more pc than the UK yes?
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I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
Canada is more pc than the UK yes?
Are you familiar with Justin Trudeau?
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I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had
equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en
joual ;-)
Canada is more pc than the UK yes?
Are you familiar with Justin Trudeau?
I wonder if he's a fan of Jordan Peterson?
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I'd assumed gramps was in Canada, he/she/it having posted a google.ca
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
Canada is more pc than the UK yes?
Are you familiar with Justin Trudeau?
I remember his mother. What a slapper!
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Are you familiar with Justin Trudeau?
Familiar with the fact that the 'young ex-teacher' spend 400,000 dollars to restore his father's Mercedes 300SL car -- .

When multimillionaire Catholics usurp the political label "Liberal" you can only guess what Canada's conservatives are like ---------------- :-(
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
The French are our natural enemies. Only in extreme crisis do we help
each other; and then, only grudgingly. :-)
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
The French are our natural enemies. Only in extreme crisis do we help
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We are in one now.
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and then, only grudgingly. :-)
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Canada :-)
Since the thread is about France, I thought a Canadian opinion had equal weight to a British opinion. En plus, j'aurais pu écrire en joual ;-)
The French are our natural enemies. Only in extreme crisis do we help
each other;
We are in one now.
That's true enough.
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and then, only grudgingly. :-)
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do
not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against
the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they do
not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a while.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same.  The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'?  He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
    to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and sutartsorric.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same.  The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same
hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela
jump and never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'?  He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
    to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
Don't think so. Freddy's defining characteristic was an utter refusal
to do even the most basic research, hence having his bum bitten by
Venezuela. He held it up to us as a shining example of living standards
being improved by socialism. OK, it was nowhere near as bad then as it
is today, but it was clearly on the slide and he hadn't bothered
getting up to date.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same.  The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same
hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela
jump and never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'?  He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
    to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and sutartsorric.
Don't think so. Freddy's defining characteristic was an utter refusal
to do even the most basic research, hence having his bum bitten by
Venezuela. He held it up to us as a shining example of living standards
being improved by socialism. OK, it was nowhere near as bad then as it
is today, but it was clearly on the slide and he hadn't bothered
getting up to date.
We're talking about 'anorak' now, not 'frederick'. Frederick never
seemed to get anything right.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same.  The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'?  He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
    to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all.  Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story.  But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
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Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.

I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.

Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.

Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Hence the @bungay.com in my non-existent email.

Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
***@bungay.com business.

I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.

As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.

As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.

In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.

However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.

I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.

HTH
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-01-11 16:13:01 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
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Post by gramps
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
johnny-knowall
2018-01-11 16:39:06 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Actually, now you mention it - that does ring a bell.

You have a far better memory for these things than I have.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
I just get a bit hyper-sensitive. I brew my own beer, and the results can be
somewhat erratic at times. I bottle condition the brew, so that although I
can calculate a general alcohol level from hygrometer measurements, if the
beer has fermented well in the bottles it can be a bit lively; but also
stronger than I anticipated.

A couple of pints of maybe 8-9% and I turn into angry old git on a mission.

Why pay pub prices, when I can make my own for about 60p a pint?
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-01-11 17:06:04 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Actually, now you mention it - that does ring a bell.
You have a far better memory for these things than I have.
For me, it's just a bit disturbing when people call themselves things :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
I just get a bit hyper-sensitive. I brew my own beer, and the results can be
somewhat erratic at times. I bottle condition the brew, so that although I
can calculate a general alcohol level from hygrometer measurements, if the
beer has fermented well in the bottles it can be a bit lively; but also
stronger than I anticipated.
A couple of pints of maybe 8-9% and I turn into angry old git on a mission.
Why pay pub prices, when I can make my own for about 60p a pint?
I used to brew beer when I was a lad, but everything seemed to need
sodium metabisulphate (or -ite) tablets, even to kill off the yeast at
the right time, and the slightest hint of it used to send me into
coughing fits.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
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2018-01-11 17:51:37 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:42 +0000,
Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Actually, now you mention it - that does ring a bell.
You have a far better memory for these things than I have.
For me, it's just a bit disturbing when people call themselves things :-)
Are you saying that your real name is actually Dan S MacAbre?

I love your parents sense of humour if that is true.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
I just get a bit hyper-sensitive. I brew my own beer, and the results can be
somewhat erratic at times. I bottle condition the brew, so that although I
can calculate a general alcohol level from hygrometer measurements, if the
beer has fermented well in the bottles it can be a bit lively; but also
stronger than I anticipated.
A couple of pints of maybe 8-9% and I turn into angry old git on a mission.
Why pay pub prices, when I can make my own for about 60p a pint?
I used to brew beer when I was a lad, but everything seemed to need
sodium metabisulphate (or -ite) tablets, even to kill off the yeast at
the right time, and the slightest hint of it used to send me into
coughing fits.
I have never used sodium metabisulphite with beer. I used it in the past with
wine, but as you say the chemical is pretty dodgy stuff and I would try and
not breath in when I opened the bottle of steriliser. I don’t do wine these
days, as it was never a great success when I tried.

If you haven’t brewed beer for a long time, you would be amazed at the
advances which have been made since the days of cheap beer kits from
Boots.There are micro-brewers producing kits which are basically to similar
recipes they use commercially. All manner of varieties are available, and
even a gluten free one, if you feel brave.

These days the sterilisation is done with sodium percarbonate, which has
little odour at all and is much less of a problem.

I have never stopped beer fermentation, as the more fully it ferments the
better the brew should be.These new kits tend to clear on their own given
time and cold temperatures, so my bottles go in the garage after a week or
two.
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As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
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2018-01-11 18:39:13 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:42 +0000,
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Actually, now you mention it - that does ring a bell.
You have a far better memory for these things than I have.
For me, it's just a bit disturbing when people call themselves things :-)
Are you saying that your real name is actually Dan S MacAbre?
I love your parents sense of humour if that is true.
No, I mean self-deprecatory things. It seems sad.
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
I just get a bit hyper-sensitive. I brew my own beer, and the results can be
somewhat erratic at times. I bottle condition the brew, so that although I
can calculate a general alcohol level from hygrometer measurements, if the
beer has fermented well in the bottles it can be a bit lively; but also
stronger than I anticipated.
A couple of pints of maybe 8-9% and I turn into angry old git on a mission.
Why pay pub prices, when I can make my own for about 60p a pint?
I used to brew beer when I was a lad, but everything seemed to need
sodium metabisulphate (or -ite) tablets, even to kill off the yeast at
the right time, and the slightest hint of it used to send me into
coughing fits.
I have never used sodium metabisulphite with beer. I used it in the past with
wine, but as you say the chemical is pretty dodgy stuff and I would try and
not breath in when I opened the bottle of steriliser. I don’t do wine these
days, as it was never a great success when I tried.
If you haven’t brewed beer for a long time, you would be amazed at the
advances which have been made since the days of cheap beer kits from
Boots.There are micro-brewers producing kits which are basically to similar
recipes they use commercially. All manner of varieties are available, and
even a gluten free one, if you feel brave.
These days the sterilisation is done with sodium percarbonate, which has
little odour at all and is much less of a problem.
I have never stopped beer fermentation, as the more fully it ferments the
better the brew should be.These new kits tend to clear on their own given
time and cold temperatures, so my bottles go in the garage after a week or
two.
It's very tempting. I want to start working part-time soon (it's
started getting on me nerves a bit), so I'll have more time, and need to
spend less money...
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As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===

Somebody washes your hog??
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
=

Pah, mucky lad.
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
=
Pah, mucky lad.
I'm clean enough. I have a bath once a month, whether I need one or not.
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
=
Pah, mucky lad.
I'm clean enough. I have a bath once a month, whether I need one or not.

==

Posh lad, eh?

;p
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
=
Pah, mucky lad.
I'm clean enough. I have a bath once a month, whether I need one or not.
==
Posh lad, eh?
;p
Apparently.
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:08:14 PM UTC, gramps
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.

Do I have a hog?

Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
Post by g***@walkerlincoln.co.uk
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:42 +0000,
Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:08:14 PM UTC, gramps
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been
near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that
inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became
so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in
using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and
uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
Yes, that is what the newsreader is called.

http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:42 +0000,
Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:08:14 PM UTC, gramps
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8, saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels, I tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I am calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are pretty crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
Yes, that is what the newsreader is called.
http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html
I understood that bit, no problem. But then Ophelia replied to me,
asking if somebody washes my hog (presumably thinking that /I/ had made
the reference to Hogwasher). I was just pointing out that it was not me
who had their hogs washed.
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:42 +0000,
Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Post by True Blue
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:08:14 PM UTC, gramps
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8,
saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday
arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular
movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared
that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same
hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around for a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
Post by johnny-knowall
I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
Post by johnny-knowall
dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels,
I
tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I
am
calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
Post by johnny-knowall
As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are
pretty
crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
Post by johnny-knowall
However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state of my mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
===
Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
Yes, that is what the newsreader is called.
http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html
I understood that bit, no problem. But then Ophelia replied to me,
asking if somebody washes my hog (presumably thinking that /I/ had made
the reference to Hogwasher). I was just pointing out that it was not me
who had their hogs washed.

==

LOL and you told me yours was mucky!

It all gave me a laugh anyway so wasn't wasted:)))
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Post by Joe
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:43:13 -0800 (PST)
On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 9:07:58 AM UTC, Incubus
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:08:14 PM UTC, gramps
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:27:50 AM UTC-8,
saracene
Post by saracene
More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday
arguing
against the #MeToo movement.
An instinctive knee-jerk reaction against a popular
movement
lacks thought.
Catherine Deneuve and her crew have publicly declared
that
they
do not object to being groped.
I can only wish them safe, but their future looks pretty
awful
from now on.
You are Mark Devon/MM AICMFP
I was thinking the same. The deliberate misunderstanding
and
weak
attempt to troll using false equivalency has the same
hallmark.
The similarities are remarkable.
Freddy would also join in if he was still here, he was a
strawman
architect of no mean ability. Sadly he fell at the Venezuela
jump
and
never recovered. Insufficiently brazen.
The one calling himself 'frederick'? He hasn't been around
for
a
while.
i kf'd him for the crime of boring me..maybe he's bored himself
to death...or perhaps he's turned professional
Come to think of it, has the ill-tempered anorak messed up his
newsreader again?
He's posting as Johnny know-all. Past names include yttiw and
sutartsorric.
And that mimo mini-story. But johnny know-all is far too temperate.
He's definitely the same chap.
I guess we'll soon find out.
Yes, White Spirit is correct.
Ah, yes. I assumed it was he, but never got around to asking. Maybe
best not to delve too much.
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I change my nym depending on what insults folk throw at me.
Someone once said I was the exact opposite of witty so I changed to yttiw
which is witty backwards.
Others told me categorically that I lived in Bungay, or was born there, or
something similar - and despite my insistence that I had never been near the
place in my life (and had no idea where it was, initially) they insisted.
Another poster called me a sorry sack of shit, which led to the
Ah, right. Much explained. But it's not good for the soul to take
names to yourself like that :-)
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I don’t remember anorak, but maybe someone called me that as well in the
I thought you once called yourself 'anorak trainspotter nerd', or
something like that.
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dim and distant past - but unlike some, I don’t keep a database of all
this, and I certainly don’t start websites dedicated to uk.p.m. liars.
As for ill-tempered, well yes I can be on occasion; usually when I'm
subjected to regular internet abuse. If people give me both barrels,
I
tend
to do the same to them. If people treat me as a normal human then I
am
calm
and temperate.
If I get angry (which is actually quite rare), I just stay away. I
don't like people seeing me like that, which is a bit of an oddness on
my part.
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As for Mimo, well that came about because I use a MacBook, and didn’t
really want to pay for a newsreader. However, the free ones are
pretty
crap
(or at least the ones I tried were) and I was always getting abused for not
having the correct pagination, or text justification, or posts that inserted
an extra line between each line of quoted text.The list went on, and on.
In the end I decided there was no alternative but to pay a monthly
subscription. Someone recommended Mimo because it was cheap and did most of
the simple tasks. So I took the plunge.
It's funny, but once something has been free for so long, I find I can
never bring myself to pay for it. I'm persevering with
eternal-september, even though it's been playing up a bit in recent
times. I'm just mean, and that's that.
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However, mimo was forever crashing; half of my posts seemed to get lost in
the ether or took about 6 hours to appear on the newsgroups. I became
so sick
of it that I kept changing my name to reflect the current state
of my
mimo
software. In the end it shut me out altogether and I couldn’t log in using
the details stored on the laptop, so I cancelled my payments and uninstalled
it.
I now have subscribed to something called Hogwasher. It seems quite stable
and does what it says on the tin.
HTH
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Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
Yes, that is what the newsreader is called.
http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html
I understood that bit, no problem. But then Ophelia replied to me,
asking if somebody washes my hog (presumably thinking that /I/ had made
the reference to Hogwasher). I was just pointing out that it was not me
who had their hogs washed.
==
LOL and you told me yours was mucky!
It all gave me a laugh anyway so wasn't wasted:)))
Yep, it all helps the day go by.
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Somebody washes your hog??
Johnny's hog, not mine. Mine is filthy.
Sorry. You have lost me already.
Do I have a hog?
Presumably this is some kind of euphemism?
You said you used something called Hogwasher, but (AFAICT), Ophelia
thought it was me. Unless my newsreader is messing up the threads?
Yes, that is what the newsreader is called.
http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html
I understood that bit, no problem. But then Ophelia replied to me,
asking if somebody washes my hog (presumably thinking that /I/ had made
the reference to Hogwasher). I was just pointing out that it was not me
who had their hogs washed.
==
LOL and you told me yours was mucky!
It all gave me a laugh anyway so wasn't wasted:)))
Yep, it all helps the day go by.

==

Stop wishing your life away!

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More than 100 women signed an open letter Tuesday arguing against the #MeToo movement.
The letter, signed by renowned French actress Catherine Deneuve as well as writers, historians, journalists and entertainers, was published in Le Monde to “we defend freedom to importune, indispensable to sexual freedom.”
“Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or back-handedly, is not — nor is men being gentlemanly a macho attack,” the letter said.
“Men have been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs when all they did was touch someone’s knee or try to steal a kiss.”
James Franco accused of inappropriate sexual behavior
French actress Catherine Deneuve and 100 other women decried the #MeToo movement.
The #MeToo was relaunched in the midst of a slew of sexual harassment and assault allegations that overtook Hollywood and took down legends including Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey.
More than 300 actresses subsequently launched Time’s Up, a new initiative aiming to fight sexual harassment and assault in the workplace.
But the open letter argues that the campaigns have led to “denunciations and public accusations of people who, without giving them the possibility of responding or defending themselves, have been placed on exactly the same level as sex offenders.”
Oprah Winfrey. Golden globes 2018. Sipa. SIPA / AP22148721_000443.
Dimanche dernier, à la cérémonie de remise des Golden globes, de quoi portaient-elles le deuil ces dames de Hollywood, toutes de noir vêtues, poitrine, épaules et dos nus à qui voulaient voir ? Falbalas grotesques. Rien à voir avec la délicieuse Suzy Delair et son tralala ! Pour les hommes, Sunset boulevard, pour les femmes, Sunshine America !
La bien-tançance frappe
L’on pense de suite à Lysistrata (411 av. J.-C.) où des femmes se révoltent contre la domination masculine, ou à L’Assemblée des femmes (du même Aristophane, 391 av. J.-C.), dont le mot d’ordre est : « Pour arrêter la guerre, refusez-vous à vos maris », où les femmes gouvernent et font tout à l’opposé des hommes. Comme était touchante cette solidarité hypocrite entre personnes du sexe, cette affirmation de prise de pouvoir urbi et orbi (Oprah Winfrey, la reine des médias outre-Atlantique allant jusqu’à faire acte de déclaration à la future présidentielle américaine et Lady Gaga enthousiaste s’écriant : « Je vote pour elle »). Mini-Nuremberg pour sales prédateurs ! Il faut croire que si l’esprit n’a pas de sexe, son absence non plus. Par ces temps où les chanteurs yéyés jouissent d’hommages nationaux, l’on se surprend à fredonner du Claude François : « Oh quel sale bonhomme ! Quel sale bonhomme ! Un monstre en somme ! Oh sale bonhomme ! ».
Pauvre Spacey
Reconnaissons que Weinstein est le coupable idéal, le faciès même du lubrique cynique manipulateur, avec à son actif tout de même quelques excellents films. Ah comme nous aurions aimé être harcelées par George Clooney ou par Alain Delon de la haute époque ! Hier la presse anglo-saxonne émettait des doutes du bout des lèvres au sujet de Woody Allen. Pas un jour où un porc n’est balancé ici ou là, bien-pensance et bien-tançance mêlées dans l’hystérie générale, comme autant d’échos utérins malsains. Pourtant la cause, si cause il y a, est aussi celle des hommes comme l’atteste le cas emblématique de Kevin Spacey, écarté sans ménagements de la série House of Cards, pour avoir abusé d’adolescents et autres éphèbes, en d’autres temps. On n’ose de nos jours penser à ce qui serait advenu de l’écrivain français nobélisé, André Gide, amateur de « petits arabes », pédophile et colonialiste non en paroles, mais dans les faits !
Les femmes vivent une régression
Jadis, on pardonnait beaucoup aux artistes, considérant que leur vie échappait au sort commun. Ou on ne les excusait point, allant jusqu’à les excommunier et les enterrer hors terre chrétienne. Les temps sont devenus tristes. Les temps sont sinistres. Les Précieuses n’ayant rien de précieux, restent juste ridicules. Imbecillitas sexus ! (Faiblesse du sexe) En dépit des apparences, les femmes actuelles vivent une régression. On les avait crues majeures et maîtresses de leur vie. Et voilà qu’elles s’avouent pusillanimes, ayant payé cher le prix de ce qu’on appelle « la réussite ». Et les clameurs viennent d’un milieu privilégié, celui des stars de l’écran, avant de se propager un peu partout, dénonciations sur dénonciations. Si le viol est un crime à punir avec extrême sévérité, le moindre geste non-désiré ne peut être taxé d’agression ou de viol. Toute relation humaine comportent une dimension de force, y compris les rapports intimes entre hommes et femmes. À quoi a servi la libération de la femme, si nous sommes tout autant démunies dans un jeu amoureux toujours ambigu, où le mâle dominant peut aussi être une femelle ?
L’on oppose souvent le puritanisme américain au laxisme latin. Il y a aussi dans notre culture européenne et surtout française une tradition de l’amour courtois, un esprit de marivaudage qui se prête au plus exquis des exercices amoureux, celui de l’esprit, un discours badin où chacun fait l’amour aux mots. Tout cela est balayé sous des vociférations qui peuvent avoir des fondements sérieux mais pas toujours. Peggy Sastre, Catherine Deneuve, Elisabeth Lévy et les autres signataires de la pétition parue dans Le Mondeont raison de ne pas confondre le terrain propre à la séduction et celui de la domination.
Les ligues de vertu à Hollywood
Chacun sait que le monde du spectacle a été fondé par les ligues de vertu où les oies blanches rivalisent de pureté ! Certes, le cinéma américain a longtemps (1930-1966) observé les clauses du Code Hays qui régissait la production cinématographique, censurait des scènes trop osées et garantissait la moralité des films. En 1915, l’affaire Mutual Film Corporation v. Industrial Commission of Ohio donna lieu à la décision de la Cour suprême des Etats-Unis d’après laquelle, le cinéma étant une activité mercantile, il ne peut prétendre à la protection du Premier amendement sur la liberté d’expression. Dans les années 1920, Hollywood passe au regard de tout un chacun comme un lieu de débauche et de perdition où l’on ne compte plus les scandales de sexe, de drogue, d’alcool et de morts suspectes. Officiellement, l’obscénité se trouve bannie, l’indécence et la licence éliminées, les « déviances » mises au placard (closet). Rien ne doit choquer les « principes » supposés des spectateurs. Un certificat de bonne conduite sera exigé pour les acteurs. Le changement de l’image de Betty Boop, dans le dessin animé éponyme, reflète le contrôle des images : la minette minaudant et flirtant en minirobe avant 1934 devient après une fille comme il faut, une working girl en jupe allongée et chemisier à manches longues. Billy Wilder estimait que ces contraintes offraient l’occasion d’un art supérieur, tout d’allusions. La force de l’image venait de ce qu’on évitait des contorsions plus allumeuses que des scènes crues du cinéma actuel. Les hommes rêvaient de Rita Hayworth, Gilda s’effeuillant à peine, les femmes s’affolaient de certains regards de velours et tous s’enchantaient de la réplique finale de Jack Lemmon : « Nobody’s perfect » (Certains l’aiment chaud, de Billy Wilder, 1959).
Le monde n’était ni égalitaire ni égalitariste. Il y avait encore un peu de civilisation, de l’urbanité dans les rapports humains, osons le mot : un peu de grâce.
Et Cologne ?
Le pire est que celles qui vocifèrent maintenant jusqu’à empêcher toute contradiction, sont les mêmes qui se sont tues lors des viols de Cologne et les mêmes qui acceptent la condition diminuée de la femme musulmane, au nom de respect de traditions qu’elles ne connaissent même pas. Elles refusent jusqu’à la « solidarité » des hommes de Hollywood : « Not enough guys ! Not enough ».
Comme le disait Henry Kissinger : « Nobody will ever win the battle of sexes. There’s too much fraternizing with the enemy » (« Personne ne gagnera jamais la guerre des sexes. Il y a beaucoup trop de fraternisation avec l’ennemi. »)
A la raison sommée de se taire et de se soumettre, opposons et murmurons la chanson tout en dentelles d’une femme libre, Juliette Gréco, dans « Déshabillez-moi » (1967) :
« (…) Et d’abord, le regard
Tout le temps du prélude
Ne doit être ni rude, ni hagard
Dévorez-moi des yeux
Mais avec retenue
Avec délicatesse
En souplesse
Et doigté »
Et terminons par un ordre féminin souverain :
« Et vous…
Déshabillez-vous »…
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