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Oleg Smirnov
2018-04-07 06:24:27 UTC
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yawn
True Blue
2018-04-07 09:59:54 UTC
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Russia - the land of cunts. The people there are so inherently wretched, they are literally self-identifying by means of their very names.

http://forebears.co.uk/surnames/vagina


Russia 6,067 1: 24,076 3,253
Uzbekistan 454 1: 67,165 7,858
Ukraine 437 1: 98,000 13,031
Kazakhstan 210 1: 82,310 12,731
Belarus 80 1: 118,365 17,476
Kyrgyzstan 37 1: 157,405 17,080
Moldova 21 1: 169,410 20,844
Azerbaijan 9 1: 1,053,011 18,072
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johnny-knowall
2018-04-07 10:36:36 UTC
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yawn
Russia - the land of cunts.
A land of cunts. Sounds good to me.

Far better than a land of dicks - where you live.
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The people there are so inherently wretched, they
are literally self-identifying by means of their very names.
http://forebears.co.uk/surnames/vagina
Russia 6,067 1: 24,076 3,253
Uzbekistan 454 1: 67,165 7,858
Ukraine 437 1: 98,000 13,031
Kazakhstan 210 1: 82,310 12,731
Belarus 80 1: 118,365 17,476
Kyrgyzstan 37 1: 157,405 17,080
Moldova 21 1: 169,410 20,844
Azerbaijan 9 1: 1,053,011 18,072
United States 9 1: 35,585,575 854,216
Georgia 5 1: 898,100 26,825
True Blue
2018-04-07 11:11:04 UTC
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yawn
Russia - the land of cunts.
A land of cunts. Sounds good to me.
Far better than a land of dicks - where you live.
The rapier wit of Sorric. Always something to behold.
johnny-knowall
2018-04-07 14:32:13 UTC
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yawn
Russia - the land of cunts.
A land of cunts. Sounds good to me.
Far better than a land of dicks - where you live.
The rapier wit of Sorric. Always something to behold.
Feathers ruffled.

The Sorric references come out again.
saracene
2018-04-08 13:33:22 UTC
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yawn
Russia - the land of cunts.
A land of cunts. Sounds good to me.
Far better than a land of dicks - where you live.
Post by True Blue
The people there are so inherently wretched, they
are literally self-identifying by means of their very names.
http://forebears.co.uk/surnames/vagina
http://www.theweek.co.uk/83347/russia-makes-it-illegal-to-share-putin-gay-clown-image
Oleg Smirnov
2018-04-08 01:11:22 UTC
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Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa under
pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from Russia. The
pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said clearly to her
cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the unwillingness
of the island government. It might be that she is currently subjected to a
severe psychological pressure or even some V special V medical treatment.

Anyway, it's a good lesson to all Russian (")fugitives("), - each of them
may find him or herself in a sudden trouble if the IoS government decides
to use such a person as a small pawn for its usual dirty machinations.
johnny-knowall
2018-04-08 07:47:00 UTC
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Post by Oleg Smirnov
Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa under
pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from Russia. The
pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said clearly to her
cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the unwillingness
of the island government. It might be that she is currently subjected to a
severe psychological pressure or even some V special V medical treatment.
Yes, we will never know of the pressure doctors at Salisbury hospital have
been under, to administer certain psychological ‘experiments’ to a couple
of patients while they were in comas.
Post by Oleg Smirnov
Anyway, it's a good lesson to all Russian (")fugitives("), - each of them
may find him or herself in a sudden trouble if the IoS government decides
to use such a person as a small pawn for its usual dirty machinations.
People in the UK will do as the state approves or, if not, they will suffer
any kind of undercover consequence.

Remember what happened to Jean Charles De Menezes....
Norman Wells
2018-04-08 08:02:02 UTC
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Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa
under pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from
Russia. The pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said
clearly to her cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of
visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the
unwillingness of the island government.
The whole purpose of any visa system is to enable the country concerned
to refuse entry to anyone it doesn't want. It's a right any sovereign
nation has.

Russian citizens do not have automatice right of entry into the UK.
They are subject to visa requirements.

"The British Consulate refused to issue a visa for the niece of ex-GRU
Colonel Sergey Skripal, Viktoria, for several reasons. First of all, the
diplomatic department found the purpose of the visit of the Russian
woman unconvincing, BBC reports citing the copy of the denial notification.

"In particular, in her application, Viktoria Skripal wrote that she
intended to visit her relatives in the UK, to which the consulate noted
that there was “no evidence that she had previously visited Sergei and
Yulia Skripal in the UK.” In addition, it is specified in the document
that Sergey Skripal is not in a position to receive guests now. And
finally, the diplomats are not confident that Yulia Skripal wants this
visit.

"On top of everything else, Viktoria Skripal could not provide documents
on her financial solvency - the department doubted that she has
sufficient funds for travel expenses, as well as for a long stay in Britain.

"In her application, the woman specified she was unemployed; she
negatively answered the question of whether she had sponsors, savings or
other sources of income."

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/reasons-for-refusal-to-issue-visa-to-skripal-s-niece-revealed/
johnny-knowall
2018-04-08 08:19:35 UTC
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Post by Oleg Smirnov
Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa
under pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from
Russia. The pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said
clearly to her cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of
visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the
unwillingness of the island government.
The whole purpose of any visa system is to enable the country concerned
to refuse entry to anyone it doesn't want. It's a right any sovereign
nation has.
Russian citizens do not have automatice right of entry into the UK.
They are subject to visa requirements.
"The British Consulate refused to issue a visa for the niece of ex-GRU
Colonel Sergey Skripal, Viktoria, for several reasons. First of all, the
diplomatic department found the purpose of the visit of the Russian
woman unconvincing, BBC reports citing the copy of the denial notification.
"In particular, in her application, Viktoria Skripal wrote that she
intended to visit her relatives in the UK,
Which no doubt was correct.
Post by Norman Wells
to which the consulate noted
that there was “no evidence that she had previously visited Sergei and
Yulia Skripal in the UK.”
So what?

Using that childish excuse, no one would ever be granted a visa for the first
time.
Post by Norman Wells
In addition, it is specified in the document
that Sergey Skripal is not in a position to receive guests now.
That is for the medics to decide, not the Foreign Office.
Post by Norman Wells
And
finally, the diplomats are not confident that Yulia Skripal wants this
visit.
That is for Yulia to decide, not the Foreign Office.
Post by Norman Wells
"On top of everything else, Viktoria Skripal could not provide documents
on her financial solvency - the department doubted that she has
sufficient funds for travel expenses, as well as for a long stay in Britain.
We have been through this nonsense already.
Post by Norman Wells
"In her application, the woman specified she was unemployed; she
negatively answered the question of whether she had sponsors, savings or
other sources of income."
Which is just the previous sentence re-worded to sound even worse... and
still fails to accept reality.
Post by Norman Wells
https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/reasons-for-refusal-to-issue-visa-to-s
kripal-s-niece-revealed/
So basically this reply answers all the questions anyone would ever want to
ask concerning the British establishment. They are childish, petty,
stalinistic in their outlook, uncompassionate, think they know far more than
the medical profession or the patients themselves, and behave like the
gestapo.

Given the boss of the Foreign Office is Dumbo Johnson, they have the perfect
man for the department.
m***@btopenworld.com
2018-04-08 09:26:10 UTC
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Post by Oleg Smirnov
Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa
under pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from
Russia. The pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said
clearly to her cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of
visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the
unwillingness of the island government.
The whole purpose of any visa system is to enable the country concerned
to refuse entry to anyone it doesn't want. It's a right any sovereign
nation has.
Russian citizens do not have automatice right of entry into the UK.
They are subject to visa requirements.
"The British Consulate refused to issue a visa for the niece of ex-GRU
Colonel Sergey Skripal, Viktoria, for several reasons. First of all, the
diplomatic department found the purpose of the visit of the Russian
woman unconvincing, BBC reports citing the copy of the denial notification.
"In particular, in her application, Viktoria Skripal wrote that she
intended to visit her relatives in the UK, to which the consulate noted
that there was “no evidence that she had previously visited Sergei and
Yulia Skripal in the UK.” In addition, it is specified in the document
that Sergey Skripal is not in a position to receive guests now. And
finally, the diplomats are not confident that Yulia Skripal wants this
visit.
"On top of everything else, Viktoria Skripal could not provide documents
on her financial solvency - the department doubted that she has
sufficient funds for travel expenses, as well as for a long stay in Britain.
"In her application, the woman specified she was unemployed; she
negatively answered the question of whether she had sponsors, savings or
other sources of income."
https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/reasons-for-refusal-to-issue-visa-to-skripal-s-niece-revealed/
In short it is the Russian Government that is behind the proposed 'Viktoria Skripal' visit and the reasons are obvious having been denied consular access to the Skripal victims, they are anxious to know exactly what the Scripals, from their hospital bed are saying to the authorities. It must be troubling them!

Of course, there is no reason that, once they are fit to travel, the Skripals if it is their wish, should not return to Russia. We do not do exit visas here. The UK government could do nothing to stop them.

Who is prepared to lay money that they will return?

Indeed there is now talk of moving them to a safe house, possibly in the States under new identities but nobody can make them go.

In the meantime perhaps movement of Russian diplomats could be restricted to a radius of not more than 1 mile from their embassy compound except for the purposes of travel to and from an international airport. It's been done before.

Old Soviet habits die hard. I remember in the 60's my wife worked and became friendly with a lady who had married a Hungarian refugee who had been deeply involved in the uprising. We went to a party at their house and met his brother who was over from Hungary on a family visit. Frist thing that impressed me was that he had been met at the airport by his refugee brother who drove him up to Doncaster. He was amazed that he came all that way without seeing a tank. He was travelling alone, his wife and mother having been refused visas by the Soviet authorities.

Come Glasnost all these nasty people did not vapourise into the air and these are the type of people we are dealing with.
Ophelia
2018-04-08 12:58:04 UTC
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Post by Oleg Smirnov
Now the island stinkers have refused to give Skripal's cousine visa under
pretext that Yulia is not willing to see any relatives from Russia. The
pretext looks obviously bogus. In the phone call Yulia said clearly to her
cousine that the latter should expect certain denial of visa, which hints
that the real reason is not her unwillingness but rather the unwillingness
of the island government.
The whole purpose of any visa system is to enable the country concerned
to refuse entry to anyone it doesn't want. It's a right any sovereign
nation has.

Russian citizens do not have automatice right of entry into the UK.
They are subject to visa requirements.

"The British Consulate refused to issue a visa for the niece of ex-GRU
Colonel Sergey Skripal, Viktoria, for several reasons. First of all, the
diplomatic department found the purpose of the visit of the Russian
woman unconvincing, BBC reports citing the copy of the denial notification.

"In particular, in her application, Viktoria Skripal wrote that she
intended to visit her relatives in the UK, to which the consulate noted
that there was “no evidence that she had previously visited Sergei and
Yulia Skripal in the UK.” In addition, it is specified in the document
that Sergey Skripal is not in a position to receive guests now. And
finally, the diplomats are not confident that Yulia Skripal wants this
visit.

"On top of everything else, Viktoria Skripal could not provide documents
on her financial solvency - the department doubted that she has
sufficient funds for travel expenses, as well as for a long stay in Britain.

"In her application, the woman specified she was unemployed; she
negatively answered the question of whether she had sponsors, savings or
other sources of income."

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/reasons-for-refusal-to-issue-visa-to-skripal-s-niece-revealed/

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I read that the CIA and the FBI are now working together to get the Skripals
new identities in the US.

Let us hope that will keep them safe.
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