Post by firstname.lastname@example.org Post by Mark, Devon
May now needs to face up to reality. She needs to do three things, all of which need courage:-
1) Face up to Boris and Give...tell 'em we're going to accept the ECJ, and stay in the single market. Yeah this might lead to a leadership challenge but, she'd beat those two idiots.
2) Recognise that the people would understand. There WOULD NOT be riots on the streets. She did her best, but Brexit was an impossibly stupid idea.
3) Regain her position as PM, with authority and respect. She'd have respect from her party and respect from the people.
For too long she's been trying to appease her own party. Yeah this might all lead to major Tory party splits.....but the Tory party almost needs that. May might, at least, now save the UK from Brexit and gain respect as the PM that saved the UK from the massive mistake her predecessor got us into.
The ECJ will never again hold writ in this country no matter what the Telegraph or anyone else says. That would be a total negation of anyone's independence. Hope fully the ECJ and the Irish matter will finally lead to the breakdown of the talks and pave the way towards independence and trade with Europe on WTO terms.
That would be the best settlement for the UK at this juncture.
I cannot understand for the life of me as to why you people want to remain shackled to the EU and trade on such disadvantageous terms? Why do you want to pay for the privilege of a trading deficit?
Why do you want *your* laws to be decided in "Brussels* Why don't you want your government to decide who shall be allowed to come and live here?
The US trades with Europe. Does the ECJ hold any writ in the US? Does the EU have any say in who should emigrate to the US?
The answer is "no" in both cases so why should it be "Yes" for the UK?
Is the US restricted by the EU as to with which country it shall have trade relations. The answer is "No" there too. The answers to those questions are also the same for a tiny country like Singapore where per capita GDP is over twice as high as it it here.
These are reasons why Brexit is an issue here and the genie is not likely to disappear back into the bottle. He's out and he's staying out!
The UK's finest hours were when it had independent government not as a province in some Teutonic Europe. Why oh why do you wish to live under the German jackboot? Do think they will offer more for less?
Okay, so you don't understand the huge benefit of the EU and being a
member of it.
However, many more people than the 17 million who voted to leave DO
understand and will expect the government to obtain a compromise or
even an outright revocation of Brexit.
What the government needs to do (they actually have already, behind
the scenes) is work out how damaging to their future election success
such an outcome will be. Obviously, a few months ago it would have
been extremely damaging, but not any more. Hardcore Brexiters like
Iain Duncan Smith are falling over themselves to agree to paying up to
£50bn to leave, whereas a few weeks ago they'd have been spitting
blood. Remember when Boris said the EU could go whistle?
I believe that the government detects a changing mood in the country
away from Brexit, and what it must do is manage the general public's
expectations more precisely so as to steer that mood totally away from
Brexit. I believe, too, that this is what's been happening these past
18 months since the referendum. The government might have hoped that
"Project Fear" would come true sooner, but Osborne and Carney
overegged that particular pudding, making it appear too rich for
serious consumption. But as time passes we're all beginning to realise
the humongous problems that now beset the Brexit decision. Whether
it's the divorce settlement, transition period, ECJ, Ireland, or the
economy, nothing is good news. There is NO good news. And because of
Brexit the PM loses another significant team which resigned yesterday.
Meanwhile, the EU *still* holds firmly on to the cards it has held
from the outset. We have none. All we have is a reluctance to
compromise. But we will, possibly to the point of surrendering the
referendum result for the greater good of the country as a whole.