Post by saracene Post by abelard Post by saracene Post by abelard Post by saracene
What about genocide, do you think that might work?
i believe in equal and opposite actions...
Do yo believe the Jews should have tried to genocide the Germans?
the didn't have the power...i'm interested in the real world
Post by saracene Post by abelard
i watch burma with interest...
Post by abelard
i collect data...
once 'they were into spain and even france
They are back again. But do you applaud the Inquisition?
the inquisition wasn't applied to islam as far as i know...
but islam was pretty violent even then...
the inquisition was more applied to cathars and a variety
I was thhinking of the Spanish Inquisition.
Conversion efforts were redoubled, and by 1501 officially no Muslim remained in Granada.
the process extended over ~700 years...that was just the end of it
Post by saracene
Encouraged by the success in Granada, the Castile's Queen Isabella issued an edict in 1502 which banned Islam for all of Castile. With the annexation of the Iberian Navarre in 1515, more Muslims still were forced to observe Christian beliefs under the Castilian edict. The last realm to impose conversion was the Crown of Aragon, whose kings had previously been bound to guarantee the freedom of religion for its Muslims under an oath included in their coronations. In the early 1520s, an anti-Islam uprising known as the Revolt of the Brotherhoods took place, and Muslims under the rebel territories were forced to convert. When the Aragon royal forces, aided by Muslims, suppressed the rebellion, King Charles I (better known as Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire) ruled that those forcible conversions were valid; thus, the "converts" were now officially Christians. This placed the converts under the
jurisdiction of the Spanish Inquisition. Finally, in 1524, Charles petitioned Pope Clement VII to release the king from his oath protecting Muslims' freedom of religion. This granted him the authority to officially act against the remaining Muslim population; in late 1525, he issued an official edict of conversion: Islam was no longer officially extant throughout Spain.
While adhering to Christianity in public was required by the royal edicts and enforced by the Spanish Inquisition, evidence indicated that most of the forcibly converted (known as the "Moriscos") clung to Islam in secret. In daily public life, traditional Islamic law could no longer be followed without persecution by the Inquisition;
i have a map at:-
i don't think most people understand that society nor
how close to it we remain...
the whole of europe was local bosses trying to out manoeuvre
rome tried to impose somme standards and you might say
i was reading over some of king john today...under interdict
(sort of excommunication) from the pope...taxing everyone
he could squeeze...invading ireland, scotchland and france....
trying to increase his power and stop competitors/rivals