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The Irish Aren't Red-Headed Mexicans
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DoD
2018-05-17 03:16:30 UTC
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In an interview with NPR last Friday, Trump's chief of staff John Kelly
described the illegal aliens pouring across our border in the most gentle
manner imaginable.

He said that illegal aliens aren't "bad people," but also "not people that
would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society."
They are, he continued, mostly rural, poor, unskilled and illiterate. "They
don't speak English," Kelly said. "Obviously, that's a big thing."

Kelly violated the civic religion of treating every non-American as better
than an American - a potential valedictorian, Medal of Honor winner and
Nobel Prize recipient. Naturally, he was called a "racist."

So what was the point? You're going to be called a "racist" no matter what
you say, so why not be honest: Illegals are self-entitled law-breakers and
thieves, stealing jobs and government benefits meant for our own people.

Our cliche-driven media huffed and puffed about Kelly's presumed descent
from immigrants.

CNN's Don Lemon said, "But like most Americans, Kelly comes from a family of
immigrants, doesn't he?"

If you'd read "Adios, America!" Don, you'd know this is PC nonsense. As late
as 1990 - a quarter-century into Teddy Kennedy's plan to remake our nation
into a Third World hellhole - half of the population traced its roots to the
Americans of 1790. We're a real country, made up of the people who created
it, much like other countries.

There were Irish here at the time of our founding who fought in the
Revolutionary War. I'm related to one.

CNN's John Berman said: "(I)f I remember my high school American history -
and I do - America in the midst of the 19th century and the beginning of the
20th century was built on immigrants."

It's as if nothing happened in America until 1850 - no Jamestown, no
Declaration of Independence, no Constitution, no creation of a brand-new
civilization out of mud.

Long before America experienced its first immigrant wave in the 19th
century, this was already a wildly successful country - rich, literate and
free (with one glaring exception, soon to be corrected in the only war ever
fought to end slavery). We'd won a war with Great Britain, conquered the
West, and invented electricity, refrigeration, suspension bridges and a
democratic republic.

Twitter lit up in response to Kelly's inoffensive remarks, with idiots
pointing out that THE SAME THING WAS ONCE SAID ABOUT THE IRISH!

Yes, and the people who said it were right. Let's not sugarcoat what
wonderful immigrants the Irish were.

All immigrants have been a problem in their own way. Italian immigrants
brought us organized crime, something America had never experienced before.
Jewish immigrants brought us radicals, communists and anarchists, setting
off bombs all over the place. Irish immigrants brought poverty and shocking
levels of crime - also William Brennan and Teddy Kennedy, the two men who
did more than any others to wreck our country.

In the draft riots of 1863, New York City's Irish exploded in feral violence
over the Emancipation Proclamation, fearful that they would soon have to
compete with freed blacks for jobs.

The Irish ran wild, lynching blacks and burning black establishments to the
ground. As described in Leslie M. Harris' book "In the Shadow of Slavery:
African Americans in New York City, 1626-1863," the Irish rioters "made a
sport of mutilating the black men's bodies, sometimes sexually. A group of
white men and boys mortally attacked black sailor William Williams - jumping
on his chest, plunging a knife into him, smashing his body with stones -
while a crowd of men, women and children watched."

Luckily for the Irish, there were no ethnic activist groups leaping in to
excuse their bad behavior. President Lincoln sent in federal troops to crush
the savage uprising. (Hey, President Trump! Lincoln is a very popular
president!)

And these were European immigrants, most of whom spoke English, contrary to
the claptrap you've heard in reaction to Kelly's remark this past week.
Today we're getting peasants who not only don't speak English, they don't
even speak Spanish and are also illiterate in their own dialects.

The Irish were driven out of their country by a one-time calamity - the
potato famine. This wasn't how they always lived. Starving poverty wasn't
their culture.

Still, the Irish were - at one time - among the poorest immigrants we ever
got and the slowest to assimilate. It took 120 years, by political analyst
Michael Barone's estimate. (Imagine a time when our worst immigrants were
the Irish!)

And they might still be a problem if The New York Times had demanded special
rights for them, the ACLU had brought lawsuits on their behalf and the
Southern Poverty Law Center had screamed "racism" whenever anyone noticed
their bad behavior.

Instead, no-nonsense Irish priests knocked them upside the head and told
them to sober up and go home to their wives. (Back then, the Catholic Church
was not about "immigrant rights"; it was about cleaning up their own bums.)

By the 1950s, the Irish were outearning other Americans. Many reformed so
well that they became Republicans.

That was then, this is now.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/16/the-irish-arent-red-headed-mexicans/
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Nemoj tude, prokleto je
Jer ko zivot tako prode
Ponosan pred Boga dode

Gdje god da te zivot nosi
Uvijek moras znati tko si, hej

Geni, geni kameni
Vatra gori u meni
Geni, geni kameni
Takvi smo mi rodeni
Mr. B1ack
2018-05-17 06:54:25 UTC
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Post by DoD
In an interview with NPR last Friday, Trump's chief of staff John Kelly
described the illegal aliens pouring across our border in the most gentle
manner imaginable.
He said that illegal aliens aren't "bad people," but also "not people that
would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society."
They are, he continued, mostly rural, poor, unskilled and illiterate. "They
don't speak English," Kelly said. "Obviously, that's a big thing."
Kelly violated the civic religion of treating every non-American as better
than an American - a potential valedictorian, Medal of Honor winner and
Nobel Prize recipient. Naturally, he was called a "racist."
"Racist" ... means the leftists have no counter-argument.

Just because most aren't "bad people" doesn't mean we
should or must take them in by the millions. They could
be absolute saints ... but we still don't have to take them.

The biggest problem is that they bring "Mexico" WITH them
to such a degree that the problems that made them migrate
here will become the norm here. The down-south paradigm
is not adequately diluted when they come in such numbers.
If they claim they're running from MS-13, too late ... they
brought it HERE already - the kind of thinking that makes
it live and thrive.

The USA got great and rich because it DIDN'T think like
that.

And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
DoD
2018-05-17 15:06:01 UTC
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Post by DoD
In an interview with NPR last Friday, Trump's chief of staff John Kelly
described the illegal aliens pouring across our border in the most gentle
manner imaginable.
He said that illegal aliens aren't "bad people," but also "not people that
would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society."
They are, he continued, mostly rural, poor, unskilled and illiterate. "They
don't speak English," Kelly said. "Obviously, that's a big thing."
Kelly violated the civic religion of treating every non-American as better
than an American - a potential valedictorian, Medal of Honor winner and
Nobel Prize recipient. Naturally, he was called a "racist."
"Racist" ... means the leftists have no counter-argument.
Just because most aren't "bad people" doesn't mean we
should or must take them in by the millions. They could
be absolute saints ... but we still don't have to take them.
The biggest problem is that they bring "Mexico" WITH them
to such a degree that the problems that made them migrate
here will become the norm here. The down-south paradigm
is not adequately diluted when they come in such numbers.
If they claim they're running from MS-13, too late ... they
brought it HERE already - the kind of thinking that makes
it live and thrive.
The USA got great and rich because it DIDN'T think like
that.
And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
It always puzzles me that they say we can't export our values on others,
but we are fine with importing their fucked up values on ourselves...
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Cvrsta ruka i postenje
Sveta voda i krstenje
Budi covjek to je dika
Budi roda svoga slika

Nedaj na se, nedaj svoje
Nemoj tude, prokleto je
Jer ko zivot tako prode
Ponosan pred Boga dode

Gdje god da te zivot nosi
Uvijek moras znati tko si, hej

Geni, geni kameni
Vatra gori u meni
Geni, geni kameni
Takvi smo mi rodeni
Mr. B1ack
2018-05-17 22:02:59 UTC
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Post by DoD
In an interview with NPR last Friday, Trump's chief of staff John Kelly
described the illegal aliens pouring across our border in the most gentle
manner imaginable.
He said that illegal aliens aren't "bad people," but also "not people that
would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society."
They are, he continued, mostly rural, poor, unskilled and illiterate. "They
don't speak English," Kelly said. "Obviously, that's a big thing."
Kelly violated the civic religion of treating every non-American as better
than an American - a potential valedictorian, Medal of Honor winner and
Nobel Prize recipient. Naturally, he was called a "racist."
"Racist" ... means the leftists have no counter-argument.
Just because most aren't "bad people" doesn't mean we
should or must take them in by the millions. They could
be absolute saints ... but we still don't have to take them.
The biggest problem is that they bring "Mexico" WITH them
to such a degree that the problems that made them migrate
here will become the norm here. The down-south paradigm
is not adequately diluted when they come in such numbers.
If they claim they're running from MS-13, too late ... they
brought it HERE already - the kind of thinking that makes
it live and thrive.
The USA got great and rich because it DIDN'T think like
that.
And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
It always puzzles me that they say we can't export our values on others,
but we are fine with importing their fucked up values on ourselves...
Well, it's because 'white' euro-derived people, especially
ones that live in north America, are THE worst thing
the world has ever seen ... weren't you informed ? :-)
DoD
2018-05-18 14:52:03 UTC
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In an interview with NPR last Friday, Trump's chief of staff John Kelly
described the illegal aliens pouring across our border in the most gentle
manner imaginable.
He said that illegal aliens aren't "bad people," but also "not people that
would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society."
They are, he continued, mostly rural, poor, unskilled and illiterate. "They
don't speak English," Kelly said. "Obviously, that's a big thing."
Kelly violated the civic religion of treating every non-American as better
than an American - a potential valedictorian, Medal of Honor winner and
Nobel Prize recipient. Naturally, he was called a "racist."
"Racist" ... means the leftists have no counter-argument.
Just because most aren't "bad people" doesn't mean we
should or must take them in by the millions. They could
be absolute saints ... but we still don't have to take them.
The biggest problem is that they bring "Mexico" WITH them
to such a degree that the problems that made them migrate
here will become the norm here. The down-south paradigm
is not adequately diluted when they come in such numbers.
If they claim they're running from MS-13, too late ... they
brought it HERE already - the kind of thinking that makes
it live and thrive.
The USA got great and rich because it DIDN'T think like
that.
And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
It always puzzles me that they say we can't export our values on others,
but we are fine with importing their fucked up values on ourselves...
Well, it's because 'white' euro-derived people, especially
ones that live in north America, are THE worst thing
the world has ever seen ... weren't you informed ? :-)
Here is what Candace has to say about that... I find her mesmerizing...


--
"Now that I've been free,
I know what a dreadful condition
slavery is. I have seen hundreds
of escaped slaves but I never saw
one who was willing to go back and
be a slave" -Harriet Tubman

I've seen black liberals go conservative,
but never seen a black conservative go
liberal.

Candace Owens
Ophelia
2018-05-18 16:28:15 UTC
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And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
==

We didn't get a choice. We are in the damned EU. Why do you think we are
trying to get out!!!
Mr. B1ack
2018-05-19 01:41:52 UTC
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Post by Mr. B1ack
And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
==
We didn't get a choice. We are in the damned EU. Why do you think we are
trying to get out!!!
Explain that to your countrymen ... the Brexit *barely*
passed muster and there's still *barely* enough
momentum to keep things rolling in that direction.

Oh, and it may be too little too late ... the UK has
already taken in too many ex-colonials and claimed
"refugees". They whine, the govt leaps to make laws
that give them the advantage. You often can't even
complain properly ... they'll find a way to frame it as
illegal "hate" speech.
Ophelia
2018-05-19 09:32:41 UTC
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Post by Mr. B1ack
And UK readers ... same applies to you. What have you
done ? You've killed the UK and substituted the hell on
earth all those "refugees" fled from. They bring their
world WITH them - and now you get to suffer for it.
==
We didn't get a choice. We are in the damned EU. Why do you think we are
trying to get out!!!
Explain that to your countrymen ... the Brexit *barely*
passed muster and there's still *barely* enough
momentum to keep things rolling in that direction.

Oh, and it may be too little too late ... the UK has
already taken in too many ex-colonials and claimed
"refugees". They whine, the govt leaps to make laws
that give them the advantage. You often can't even
complain properly ... they'll find a way to frame it as
illegal "hate" speech.

==

I can't argue with that, but if we could just get May out and a proper
Brexiteer in ... At least they are starting to look at illegal immigrants.
Gronk
2018-05-23 03:45:56 UTC
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DoD wrote:
https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/immigration/irish5.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/insider/1854-no-irish-need-apply.html


https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Discrimination-of-Irish-Catholic-Immigrants-During-the-P3CEDY5YTC
saracene
2018-05-23 09:03:00 UTC
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Post by Gronk
https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/immigration/irish5.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/insider/1854-no-irish-need-apply.html
https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Discrimination-of-Irish-Catholic-Immigrants-During-the-P3CEDY5YTC
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2012/08/14/raceiq-irish-iq-chinese-iq/
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