Discussion:
Israel's war crimes : the UN is "anti Israel"
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The Todal
2014-07-23 15:26:07 UTC
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Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.

Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626

The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.

Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in
Geneva that Israel's military offensive had not done enough to protect
civilians.

She also condemned Hamas for "indiscriminate attacks" on Israel.

Israel launched its offensive on 8 July with the declared objective of
stopping rocket fire from Gaza.

"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been
violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes," Ms Pillay said.

However Israel, which claims the UN Human Rights Council is biased, is
unlikely to co-operate with any authorised UN investigation, the BBC's
Imogen Foulkes in Geneva reports.

Israel's Justice Minister Tzipi Livni described the UN Human Rights
Council as an "anti-Israel" body, Reuters news agency reported.

At least 649 Palestinians and 31 Israelis have been killed in the past
15 days of fighting, officials say.

A foreign worker in southern Israel was also killed by a rocket fired
from Gaza on Wednesday, police said.

The UN says about 74% of those killed in Gaza are civilians, with
medical clinics among the facilities hit by air strikes.

"Civilians in Gaza have no safe place to go as 44% of the land has been
declared a 'no-go zone' by the Israeli army," the assistant
secretary-general at the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian
Affairs said.
abelard
2014-07-23 15:37:31 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.
Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626
The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.
and they may not...
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Mel Rowing
2014-07-24 12:52:26 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.
Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626
The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.
Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in
Geneva that Israel's military offensive had not done enough to protect
civilians.
She also condemned Hamas for "indiscriminate attacks" on Israel.
And what does this good lady propose to do about it? She is a "human
rights official" and employee of the UN in other wards. Blessed with
authority but totally lacking in power. Represents nobody save herself.
Post by The Todal
Israel launched its offensive on 8 July with the declared objective of
stopping rocket fire from Gaza.
"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been
violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes," Ms Pillay said.
However Israel, which claims the UN Human Rights Council is biased, is
unlikely to co-operate with any authorised UN investigation, the BBC's
Imogen Foulkes in Geneva reports.
And in that they are perfectly correct. One wonders why the western
powers have anything to do with the organisation let alone take on the
major role of bank rolling this council of enemies. If the third world
really does need a stick with which to beat the west then the very least
they should be expected to do is pay for it.
Post by The Todal
Israel's Justice Minister Tzipi Livni described the UN Human Rights
Council as an "anti-Israel" body, Reuters news agency reported.
At least 649 Palestinians and 31 Israelis have been killed in the past
15 days of fighting, officials say.
A foreign worker in southern Israel was also killed by a rocket fired
from Gaza on Wednesday, police said.
The UN says about 74% of those killed in Gaza are civilians, with
medical clinics among the facilities hit by air strikes.
The Germans knew how to surrender once they had had enough.

So did the Japanese.

The procedure is simple. You display a white flag and turn over your
weapons. Otherwise the conflict continues towards a military resolution.

Of course the Palestinians could always stop launching the rockets which
are the source of the trouble. It's also worth noting who it was who put
Hamas in power and probably will next time.
The Todal
2014-07-24 13:46:19 UTC
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Post by Mel Rowing
Post by The Todal
Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.
Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626
The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.
Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in
Geneva that Israel's military offensive had not done enough to protect
civilians.
She also condemned Hamas for "indiscriminate attacks" on Israel.
And what does this good lady propose to do about it? She is a "human
rights official" and employee of the UN in other wards. Blessed with
authority but totally lacking in power. Represents nobody save herself.
And prominent leaders must now decide whether to ignore her
recommendations, contradict her or support her. Silence is not really an
option, even though everyone seems very scared to stand up to angry Mr
Netanyahu.
Post by Mel Rowing
Post by The Todal
The UN says about 74% of those killed in Gaza are civilians, with
medical clinics among the facilities hit by air strikes.
The Germans knew how to surrender once they had had enough.
So did the Japanese.
The procedure is simple. You display a white flag and turn over your
weapons. Otherwise the conflict continues towards a military resolution.
As usual, you choose to conflate Hamas fighters with non-combatant
civilians.

The fighters will probably not surrender. In fact, they are right to
demand that the blockade be lifted as a term of any ceasefire. It is a
reasonable demand. The UN has regularly asked Israel to lift the
blockade of Gaza. The response from Israel seems to be: sod off. Nothing
to do with you.

Civilians can wave any white flags that they like, and they will still
be blown up by Israeli shells and mown down by their tanks.

Surely it's time we dispatched the RAF to take control of Israel's skies
and blast any missile battery that is active on Israel's soil, as well
as the pathetic rocket launchers on Gaza's soil.
abelard
2014-07-24 14:21:26 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Mel Rowing
Post by The Todal
Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.
Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626
The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.
Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in
Geneva that Israel's military offensive had not done enough to protect
civilians.
She also condemned Hamas for "indiscriminate attacks" on Israel.
And what does this good lady propose to do about it? She is a "human
rights official" and employee of the UN in other wards. Blessed with
authority but totally lacking in power. Represents nobody save herself.
And prominent leaders must now decide whether to ignore her
recommendations, contradict her or support her. Silence is not really an
option, even though everyone seems very scared to stand up to angry Mr
Netanyahu.
yes it is an option...i generally ignore the posts of idiots unless
they are provide particularly amusing options for mockery
Post by The Todal
Post by Mel Rowing
Post by The Todal
The UN says about 74% of those killed in Gaza are civilians, with
medical clinics among the facilities hit by air strikes.
The Germans knew how to surrender once they had had enough.
So did the Japanese.
The procedure is simple. You display a white flag and turn over your
weapons. Otherwise the conflict continues towards a military resolution.
As usual, you choose to conflate Hamas fighters with non-combatant
civilians.
and exactly how do you expect to separate them??
Post by The Todal
The fighters will probably not surrender. In fact, they are right to
demand that the blockade be lifted as a term of any ceasefire. It is a
reasonable demand.
no it isn't...until they stop trying to import rockets and tunneling
equipment
and starting to use their huge subsidies to improve the lives of
'civilians' instead of stuffing their swiss bank account...

perhaps the 'civilians' would be better going back under an israeli
protectorate
Post by The Todal
The UN has regularly asked Israel to lift the
blockade of Gaza. The response from Israel seems to be: sod off. Nothing
to do with you.
the un is complicit with hamarse...why would you expect any
other response?
Post by The Todal
Civilians can wave any white flags that they like, and they will still
be blown up by Israeli shells and mown down by their tanks.
liar
Post by The Todal
Surely it's time we dispatched the RAF to take control of Israel's skies
and blast any missile battery that is active on Israel's soil,
ah...get rid of iron dome...typical leftist's idiocy...
Post by The Todal
as well
as the pathetic rocket launchers on Gaza's soil.
but you're already whining about the attacks on hamarse
batteries...especially when they are placed in schools and
hospital...

you're out to lunch
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Mel Rowing
2014-07-24 18:52:05 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Mel Rowing
The Germans knew how to surrender once they had had enough.
So did the Japanese.
The procedure is simple. You display a white flag and turn over your
weapons. Otherwise the conflict continues towards a military resolution.
As usual, you choose to conflate Hamas fighters with non-combatant
civilians.
The fighters will probably not surrender. In fact, they are right to
demand that the blockade be lifted as a term of any ceasefire. It is a
reasonable demand. The UN has regularly asked Israel to lift the
blockade of Gaza. The response from Israel seems to be: sod off. Nothing
to do with you.
Civilians can wave any white flags that they like, and they will still
be blown up by Israeli shells and mown down by their tanks.
Surely it's time we dispatched the RAF to take control of Israel's skies
and blast any missile battery that is active on Israel's soil, as well
as the pathetic rocket launchers on Gaza's soil.
I doubt whether the RAF would be in a position to take control of the
skies of the UK for very long! The British people have cooled towards
efficient defence forces in in acquiescence towards free healthcare and
generous welfare schemes.

"Demand that the blockade be lifted" You talk as though they are
winning! They are in no position to demand anything. The IDF has more
than enough capability to push them all into the Mediterranean.

If there is to be a Palestinian state, and the sands of time continue to
run out, then the Palestinians are going to have to come to an
accommodation with the Israelis and not the other way round.

They could start by acknowledging the right of Israel to exist since the
Israelis are never going to consent to their own eradication. Neither
are they going to pack their bags and turn their backs on generations of
effort and investment they have put into Israel.

That's the starting point of any settlement.
DVH
2014-07-24 19:10:43 UTC
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Post by Mel Rowing
Post by The Todal
Post by Mel Rowing
The Germans knew how to surrender once they had had enough.
So did the Japanese.
The procedure is simple. You display a white flag and turn over your
weapons. Otherwise the conflict continues towards a military resolution.
As usual, you choose to conflate Hamas fighters with non-combatant
civilians.
The fighters will probably not surrender. In fact, they are right to
demand that the blockade be lifted as a term of any ceasefire. It is a
reasonable demand. The UN has regularly asked Israel to lift the
blockade of Gaza. The response from Israel seems to be: sod off. Nothing
to do with you.
Civilians can wave any white flags that they like, and they will still
be blown up by Israeli shells and mown down by their tanks.
Surely it's time we dispatched the RAF to take control of Israel's skies
and blast any missile battery that is active on Israel's soil, as well
as the pathetic rocket launchers on Gaza's soil.
I doubt whether the RAF would be in a position to take control of the
skies of the UK for very long! The British people have cooled towards
efficient defence forces in in acquiescence towards free healthcare and
generous welfare schemes.
"Demand that the blockade be lifted" You talk as though they are
winning! They are in no position to demand anything. The IDF has more
than enough capability to push them all into the Mediterranean.
If there is to be a Palestinian state, and the sands of time continue to
run out, then the Palestinians are going to have to come to an
accommodation with the Israelis and not the other way round.
They could start by acknowledging the right of Israel to exist since the
Israelis are never going to consent to their own eradication. Neither
are they going to pack their bags and turn their backs on generations of
effort and investment they have put into Israel.
That's the starting point of any settlement.
Although free trade would be the most effective spur.

But before that, two things need to happen: firstly, the Pallies have to
summon up the courage to reject the Hamas mafia. At the moment, they're
just reaping the reward of voting them in.

Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Rutterkin
2014-07-24 19:37:41 UTC
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Post by DVH
But before that, two things need to happen: firstly, the Pallies have to
summon up the courage to reject the Hamas mafia. At the moment, they're
just reaping the reward of voting them in.
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
The sensible solution is to nuke Tel Aviv, and every other occupation
settlement, eradicating as many Zionists as possible. They are little
more than bacteria, and make less contribution to human culture than
AIDS. In due course, the Palestinian indigenous inhabitants can
recolonise their land. Problem solved.
DVH
2014-07-24 20:04:05 UTC
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Post by Rutterkin
Post by DVH
But before that, two things need to happen: firstly, the Pallies have to
summon up the courage to reject the Hamas mafia. At the moment, they're
just reaping the reward of voting them in.
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
The sensible solution is to nuke Tel Aviv, and every other occupation
settlement, eradicating as many Zionists as possible. They are little
more than bacteria, and make less contribution to human culture than
AIDS.
Funny, all those Noble prizes...
Post by Rutterkin
In due course, the Palestinian indigenous inhabitants can
recolonise their land. Problem solved.
Bill
2014-07-25 16:02:28 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:37:41 +0100, Rutterkin
Post by Rutterkin
The sensible solution is to nuke Tel Aviv, and every other occupation
settlement, eradicating as many Zionists as possible. They are little
more than bacteria, and make less contribution to human culture than
AIDS. In due course, the Palestinian indigenous inhabitants can
recolonise their land. Problem solved.
You can always rely on this one to make anything Israel does look
reasonable and moderate compared to what he'd do.
Judith
2014-07-24 21:55:50 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:10:43 +0100, DVH <***@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:

<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?

You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
DVH
2014-07-24 21:58:12 UTC
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Post by Judith
<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Post by Judith
You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
j***@gmail.com
2014-07-25 08:58:49 UTC
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Post by DVH
Post by Judith
<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Post by Judith
You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
Maybe all you zionazi supporting scum can club a few shekels together and by one of these: http://moderntribe.com/products/superjewt_shirt

snigger

Redman
Bill
2014-07-25 16:04:07 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by DVH
Post by Judith
<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Post by Judith
You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
Maybe all you zionazi supporting scum can club a few shekels together and by one of these: http://moderntribe.com/products/superjewt_shirt
snigger
I have one somewhere that says:

E=MC squared
It's Jew thing, you wouldn't understand...
DVH
2014-07-26 06:20:30 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by DVH
Post by Judith
<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Post by Judith
You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
Maybe all you zionazi supporting scum can club a few shekels together and by one of these: http://moderntribe.com/products/superjewt_shirt
snigger
E=MC squared
It's Jew thing, you wouldn't understand...
I didn't even bother looking at his link - it was bound to be something
retarded.
abelard
2014-07-28 09:45:41 UTC
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Post by DVH
Post by Bill
Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by DVH
Post by Judith
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Post by Judith
You could if you like just specify that for "military purposes" if it makes it
easier for you.
Maybe all you zionazi supporting scum can club a few shekels together and by one of these: http://moderntribe.com/products/superjewt_shirt
snigger
E=MC squared
It's Jew thing, you wouldn't understand...
I didn't even bother looking at his link - it was bound to be something
retarded.
is that entirely fair? i've never seen anything that he has, to
be retarded with
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Judith
2014-07-26 16:18:33 UTC
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Post by DVH
Post by Judith
<snip>
Post by DVH
Secondly, UNRWA and the EU should cut all aid off and encourage the
Pallies to reflect on how they can stand on their own two feet.
Cumulatively, the subsidies are probably more destructive than Hamas, so
perhaps start with that.
Perhaps you could share with us - how much "aid" does the US give to Israel
each year?
I suggest you go and find out using the Google.
Certainly no problem:

Israel will receive $3.4 billion in total military aid in 2014.

No wonder they can afford to keep killing Gazans with their illegal holocaust:
money no object.
Rutterkin
2014-07-26 16:29:43 UTC
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Post by Judith
Israel will receive $3.4 billion in total military aid in 2014.
money no object.
A good return on the Zionist investment in saturating the US media with
yarns about how brave, civilised, democratic, humanitarian Israel is
protecting the world from Muslim hordes.
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2014-07-24 21:10:16 UTC
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Post by Mel Rowing
If there is to be a Palestinian state
There is already a Fakestinian state. It's called Jordan.

Y.
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Sleepalot
2014-07-25 11:23:27 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Oh no. Say it ain't so. I guess this lady Navi Pillay must be one of
those Al Quaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram dupes, then.
Either that, or she is brave enough to say out loud what most of the
world's leaders are thinking but are afraid to say, for fear of
offending the psychopath Mr Netanyahu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626
The UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military
actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.
"Since 2006, the UNHRC has condemned Israel nearly 50 times — far more
than Syria, Sudan, North Korea, Congo, Myanmar, Somalia, Libya and Iran
combined."

http://www.rightwingnews.com/column-2/un-a-club-in-need-of-higher-standards/
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