Post by Farmer Giles Post by firstname.lastname@example.org Post by Farmer Giles Post by email@example.com Post by Farmer Giles
You shouldn't judge those who truly care about the environment on the
same level as those who only pay lip service, and make a good living
from pretending, to caring about it.
I care about the environment, but I'm also a realist. Friends of the
Earth and Greenpeace are saturated with
people who (seemingly) have a return to agrarianism as a goal. They're
also culturally self-loathing. Whilst they and other "environmental"
organisations *may* have written papers, or issued statements, naming the
planets environmental villains, I've yet to see such views from them. The
third world, or developing world, are largely to blame for the widescale
pollution of the oceans and the atmosphere. But that Western disease,
politically correctness, protects them from criticism. Instead, we have
gullible teenagers and middle-aged wimmin blocking streets on Western
capitals, in a desperate bid to look virtuous, with their silly "climate
rebellion" tee shirts.
I don't think you really care about the environment, or are a realist.
It's not realistic to think we can go on living the way we are.
We're not going to go on living the way we are. We didn't go on living the
way we were 100 years ago, belching soot from reciprocating steam engines,
because technology came to the rescue and will continue to do so. I took a
lungful of air in Manila a few years ago and had a sense of deja vu - I was
back in Lincoln in the 1970s. It's not like that in the West anymore. I've
noticed that Green propaganda has reacted to this reality - they some time
back started opening statements with "it's no good saying technology will
come to the rescue". It will if you lot allow it, but if you insist on
looking the wrong way whilst yearning for your long days in the fields
wielding your scythes, it will be a long time coming.
It's not like 'that' in the West because, thanks to your hero Thatcher,
we've exported most of our pollution halfway round the world.
I don't give a toss about this 'Green propaganda' of yours, or any other
strawmen that you care to construct in place of a valid argument. What I
mean by not being able to go on living the way we do, is that we simply
can't carry on with the level of consumption and waste that we have
presently. We simply need to consume less, and waste less. We also need
to travel less, and not have the world full of vehicles buzzing about
making largely unnecessary journeys - causing enormous levels of
pollution in the process. And we certainly need to reduce air travel.,
which is even worse.
The world is finite, and the resources in it. The present levels of
consumption are largely a product of a system that necessitates
continual 'growth'. Continual growth in a finite world is not just
ultimately unsustainable but it is pure insanity to advocate it.
People like you who support the present madness, and seek to make
wholesale condemnations of those who speak out against it, don't do so
out of any concern for the world and the future but simply out of
selfish desire to have more and more and to hell with anyone or anything