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Cannabis users are more likely to feel deceived and alienated by others, study finds
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 11:44:15 UTC
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Look no further than the admitted POT smokers on usenet...LOL



Cannabis users are more likely to feel deceived and alienated by others,
study finds

Cannabis users are more likely to experience negative emotions, particularly
feeling alienated from others, new research reveals.

People who use marijuana are significantly more likely to feel that others
wish them harm or are deceiving them, a US study found.

Brain scans also reveal the class-B drug increases signal connectivity in
regions of the brain that have previously been linked to psychosis, the
research adds, which is associated with severe depression.

Teenage cannabis users are particularly affected as their brains are still
developing, according to the researchers.

In the US, 44 percent of those aged 12 or over have used cannabis at some
point in their lives.

How the research was carried out

The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.

The study's participants completed a questionnaire that asked them about
their feelings of stress, aggression, reactivity and alienation.

Brain scans were also taken of all of the participants.

Link between cannabis and mental health

Dr Cameron Carter, editor of the journal Biological Psychiatry: Cognitive
Neuroscience and Neuroimaging, where the study was published, said: 'These
brain imaging data provide a link between changes in brain systems involved
in reward and psychopathology and chronic cannabis abuse, suggesting a
mechanism by which heavy use of this popular drug may lead to depression and
other even more severe forms of mental illness.'

According to study author Dr Peter Manza, measuring brain activity is
relatively easy and non-invasive.

Therefore, the procedure used in the investigation could be carried out to
monitor cannabis users' mental health risks.

This comes after researchers from Warwick Medical School discovered in
December last year teenage cannabis use may increase a person's risk of
suffering from bipolar disorder in later life.

People who used cannabis at least two-to-three times a week at 17 years old
are more likely to experience hypomania in their earlier 20s, according to
the first study of its kind.
Shadow
2018-01-19 12:48:52 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
Who did it, a student ?
Massive !!!!

I don't suppose you can see the irony.
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Incubus
2018-01-19 13:10:38 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
The Todal
2018-01-19 13:28:45 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
Incubus
2018-01-19 15:31:06 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction. One particular problem is that regular,
heavy cannabis usage can cause a number of mental health difficulties as
well as long-term personality changes. However, there are people who
will pontificate at length about how natural and safe it is or draw
attention to the problems alcohol causes instead as though they somehow
ameliorate the ill effects.

I think it's fair to say that no drugs (including alcohol) are perfectly
safe although there are no doubt people who can use them without
experiencing difficulties but when people claim their substance of
choice (or perhaps substance of no choice...) is perfectly benign, there
is a likely explanation for their justification.
Shadow
2018-01-19 16:21:09 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
You must know a LOT of people.
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 16:32:54 UTC
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LOL You are a criminal who helped make people disappear
and are still hiding in Brazil...




"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:31:06 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 19/01/2018 13:28, The Todal wrote:
: >> On 19/01/2018 13:10, Incubus wrote:
: >>> On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: >>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: >>>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched voice:
: >>>>
: >>>>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
: >>>>> Alcohol Abuse
: >>>>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were
cannabis
: >>>>> dependent.
: >>>>
: >>>> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: >>>> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: >>>
: >>> What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
: >>> dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
: >>
: >> And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
: >> that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
: >> to face up to their career or relationship problems.
: >
: >I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
: >because of cannabis addiction.
:
: And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
: court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
: forming than coffee).
: You must know a LOT of people.
: More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
: proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
: []'s
: --
: Don't be evil - Google 2004
: We have a new policy - Google 2012
Incubus
2018-01-19 16:57:47 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
Shadow
2018-01-19 17:17:28 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
You mean the wrong people...
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
The same way the medical books do. And you ?
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Incubus
2018-01-19 17:21:40 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
You mean the wrong people...
That's a value judgement.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
The same way the medical books do. And you ?
[]'s
The same way. The DSM-V and the WHO have definitions which would
certainly include addiction to cannabis.
Shadow
2018-01-19 17:58:47 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
You mean the wrong people...
That's a value judgement.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
The same way the medical books do. And you ?
[]'s
The same way. The DSM-V and the WHO have definitions which would
certainly include addiction to cannabis.
Cite.
[]'s
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 19:34:55 UTC
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Why would a "doctor" of 30 years not know this??

Typical pot smoker.


LOL!!


"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 17:21:40 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 19/01/2018 17:17, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:57:47 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On 19/01/2018 16:21, Shadow wrote:
: >>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:31:06 +0000, Incubus
<***@gmail.com>
: >>>> wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>> On 19/01/2018 13:28, The Todal wrote:
: >>>>>> On 19/01/2018 13:10, Incubus wrote:
: >>>>>>> On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: >>>>>>>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched
voice:
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
: >>>>>>>>> Alcohol Abuse
: >>>>>>>>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were
cannabis
: >>>>>>>>> dependent.
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: >>>>>>>> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be
psychologically
: >>>>>>> dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who
say
: >>>>>> that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't
want
: >>>>>> to face up to their career or relationship problems.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
: >>>>> because of cannabis addiction.
: >>>>
: >>>> And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
: >>>> court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
: >>>> forming than coffee).
: >>>
: >>> Neither were involved with the justice system.
: >>>
: >>>> You must know a LOT of people.
: >>>
: >>> Maybe I just know the right people.
: >>
: >> You mean the wrong people...
: >
: >That's a value judgement.
: >
: >>>> More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
: >>>> proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
: >>>
: >>> How are you defining addiction?
: >>
: >> The same way the medical books do. And you ?
: >> []'s
: >
: >The same way. The DSM-V and the WHO have definitions which would
: >certainly include addiction to cannabis.
:
: Cite.
: []'s
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Incubus
2018-01-21 15:29:25 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
You mean the wrong people...
That's a value judgement.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
The same way the medical books do. And you ?
[]'s
The same way. The DSM-V and the WHO have definitions which would
certainly include addiction to cannabis.
Cite.
[]'s
Here you go.

WHO:

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/terminology/definition1/en/

DSM V separates disorders according to substance and this is where
cannabis is concerned:

'However, examining the evidence derived from clinical practice and
scientific research as illustrated and validated in the diagnostic
criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, fifth edition,
(DSM-5), marijuana is highly addicting, harmful and dangerous as other
drugs of addiction.'

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/marijuana-addictive-disorders-and-dsm5-substancerelated-disorders-2155-6105-S11-013.php?aid=84734

It also lists some nice withdrawal symptoms...
Shadow
2018-01-21 17:49:54 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
Neither were involved with the justice system.
Post by Shadow
You must know a LOT of people.
Maybe I just know the right people.
You mean the wrong people...
That's a value judgement.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
How are you defining addiction?
The same way the medical books do. And you ?
[]'s
The same way. The DSM-V and the WHO have definitions which would
certainly include addiction to cannabis.
Cite.
[]'s
Here you go.
http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/terminology/definition1/en/
Quoting

//The Tenth Revision of the International Classification of Diseases
and Health Problems (ICD-10) defines the dependence syndrome as being
a cluster of physiological, behavioural, and cognitive phenomena in
which the use of a substance or a class of substances takes on a much
higher priority for a given individual than other behaviours that once
had greater value. A central descriptive characteristic of the
dependence syndrome is the desire (often strong, sometimes
overpowering) to take the psychoactive drugs (which may or not have
been medically prescribed), alcohol, or tobacco. //

Yes, that's the one I use. For dependence. I cited Usenet and
video games (as well as coffee) even though the former two do not meet
the criteria of "substances". Call it poetic freedom. Coffee DOES meet
the criteria.

Interesting, on the main page only ONE publication cites
cannabis

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/en/

All the others are about alcohol, opiates and other "legal
drugs"

That publication, "The health and social effects of non
medical cannabis use" might interest you, in that it confirms that
"There are no reports of fatal overdoses in the epidemiological
literature (Calabria et al., 2010b)".
It also estimates that aprox 200 million people use
non-prescription cannabis regularly. And that's a slightly larger pool
than the Bouffant's 30 test subjects.

Psychosis:

"Researchers who remain sceptical about a causal role for
cannabis (e.g. Gage, Zammit & Hickman, 2013) point to the absence of
an increase in the incidence of schizophrenia as cannabis use
increased among young adults. The evidence is mixed. An Australian
modelling study did NOT find any marked increase in incidence after
steep increases in cannabis use during the 1980s and 1990s
(Degenhardt, Hall & Lynskey, 2003). "

hehehe

"However, a similar modelling study in the United Kingdom
(Hickman et al., 2007) argued that it was too early to say."
"Too early to say", ~10 years after the fact ? Sounds
"balanced" to me, or maybe they're just waiting for a sudden
inexplicable increase in their bank "balances". FYE, >10 years after
that "study", it's still "Too early to say".

Sorry mate, I've made up my mind. Every single piece of
clinical evidence just points to the fact that cannabis is NOT more
harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Or more dependency forming than
coffee.
Regardless of how much the
drug-peddling/alcohol/tobacco/private jail/blackmail industries
financing the "researchers" pay them.
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Incubus
2018-01-21 20:35:06 UTC
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Sorry mate, I've made up my mind. Every single piece of
clinical evidence just points to the fact that cannabis is NOT more
harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Or more dependency forming than
coffee.
Wow. It sounds to me you've got a serious case of confirmation bias
going on.
Shadow
2018-01-21 21:20:44 UTC
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Sorry mate, I've made up my mind. Every single piece of
clinical evidence just points to the fact that cannabis is NOT more
harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Or more dependency forming than
coffee.
Wow. It sounds to me you've got a serious case of confirmation bias
going on.
Yes. My doctor prescribed coffee and oxycodone, washed down
with a swig of whiskey, between cigarettes.
Says it will prevent me from becoming addicted to the idea
that cannabis is not addictive.
What did your doctor prescribe ?
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The Todal
2018-01-20 13:46:35 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction.
And after 30 years as a doctor, I don't. Not unless it was
court-mandated (yes, some judges still think cannabis is more habit
forming than coffee).
You must know a LOT of people.
More than all the medical researchers combined (no case of
proven cannabis ADDICTION ever reported)
[]'s
Have you ever treated a patient with cannabis-induced psychosis? If you
haven't treated such a person do you agree that such patients do exist?

I know it's not quite the same as addiction, but I can tell you that a
person suffering from cannabis induced psychosis craves cannabis and
will fight you for it if you withhold it.
James Wilkinson Sword
2018-01-21 21:34:54 UTC
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I knew a couple of people who ended up in a treatment centre (rehab)
because of cannabis addiction. One particular problem is that regular,
heavy cannabis usage can cause a number of mental health difficulties as
well as long-term personality changes. However, there are people who
will pontificate at length about how natural and safe it is or draw
attention to the problems alcohol causes instead as though they somehow
ameliorate the ill effects.
I think it's fair to say that no drugs (including alcohol) are perfectly
safe although there are no doubt people who can use them without
experiencing difficulties but when people claim their substance of
choice (or perhaps substance of no choice...) is perfectly benign, there
is a likely explanation for their justification.
Alcohol is 1000 times worse than cannabis.
--
"O'Ryan," asked the druggist, "did that mudpack I gave you improve your wife's appearance?"
"It did, surely," replied O'Ryan, "but it keeps fallin' off!"
James Wilkinson Sword
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The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I took up running because I enjoy it. If you forced me to stop running, I'd be annoyed, perhaps even depressed. Does that mean that running is bad for you?
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2018-01-22 01:06:08 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
    WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency?  People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I took up running because I enjoy it.  If you forced me to stop running,
I'd be annoyed, perhaps even depressed.  Does that mean that running is
bad for you?
No. Any other questions?
James Wilkinson Sword
2018-01-22 19:28:11 UTC
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Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
And cannabis is a drug that certainly causes dependency. Those who say
that they can stop any time all too often don't because they don't want
to face up to their career or relationship problems.
I took up running because I enjoy it. If you forced me to stop running,
I'd be annoyed, perhaps even depressed. Does that mean that running is
bad for you?
No. Any other questions?
Then why do you think Cannabis is addictive or bad for you? My running analogy above gave me the same withdrawal symptoms.
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2018-01-19 16:09:51 UTC
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Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
I'm sure we could get a few hundred subjects to conduct our
"study".
And the Bouffant could rant about them and ignore alcohol and
tobacco .....
[]'s

PS Sorry about the lack of a OT in my first reply. I was
replying from a group where it is not OT, and didn't notice the
crosspost to freeware and computer-related newsgroups.
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 16:13:27 UTC
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Again you try to divert and change the subject.

makes you a luzer straight out of the gate.

WORD!


"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:10:38 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: >> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched voice:
: >>
: >>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol
Abuse
: >>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
: >>> dependent.
: >>
: >> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: >> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: >
: >What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
: >dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
:
: So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
: cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
: tatoos.
: I'm sure we could get a few hundred subjects to conduct our
: "study".
: And the Bouffant could rant about them and ignore alcohol and
: tobacco .....
: []'s
:
: PS Sorry about the lack of a OT in my first reply. I was
: replying from a group where it is not OT, and didn't notice the
: crosspost to freeware and computer-related newsgroups.
: --
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saracene
2018-01-19 16:25:15 UTC
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Again you try to divert and change the subject.
makes you a luzer straight out of the gate.
Is there anything about you that is not despicable? If so please tell. I am curious.
BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 16:35:56 UTC
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We own you and those like you...LOL



"saracene" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2e751496-90e9-44c4-b3e4-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 4:13:31 PM UTC, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: > Again you try to divert and change the subject.
: >
: > makes you a luzer straight out of the gate.
: >
: Is there anything about you that is not despicable? If so please tell. I
am curious.
saracene
2018-01-19 16:38:58 UTC
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We own you and those like you...LOL
You yids you mean?
BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 17:14:10 UTC
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See you have nothing but name calling, makes you a luzer
straight out of the gate.



"saracene" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e4abbe9f-ca0a-46c2-a393-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 4:36:01 PM UTC, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: > We own you and those like you...LOL
: >
: >
: >
: You yids you mean?
saracene
2018-01-19 17:38:25 UTC
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See you have nothing but name calling, makes you a luzer
straight out of the gate.
: > We own you and those like you...LOL
: >
: >
: >
: You yids you mean?
I just asked a question.
Incubus
2018-01-19 16:56:09 UTC
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Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?

It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Shadow
2018-01-19 17:15:50 UTC
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Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?
Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
about tobacco ?
Post by Incubus
It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Which are ?
Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
[]'s
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Incubus
2018-01-19 17:28:48 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?
Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
about tobacco ?
I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Which are ?
It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
Post by Shadow
Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
[]'s
Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
Shadow
2018-01-19 17:58:19 UTC
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Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?
Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
about tobacco ?
I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
Please include the cents (or pennies) .
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Which are ?
It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
There are no studies that take into account that people that
are schizophrenic are MORE likely to resort to drugs (of any kind)
because they feel "different". Duh. Tip - they drink more too, but
I've never seen a study that says alcohol "causes" schizophrenia.

And ingested cannabis is more harmful to the LUNGS than
smoking cigarettes ? LOL !!!!!
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
[]'s
Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
Yes. Are we comparing "moderate" or "extreme" cases of
cannabis use with coffee ?
[]'s
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saracene
2018-01-19 18:03:27 UTC
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Post by Shadow
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?
Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
about tobacco ?
I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
Please include the cents (or pennies) .
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Which are ?
It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
There are no studies that take into account that people that
are schizophrenic are MORE likely to resort to drugs (of any kind)
because they feel "different". Duh. Tip - they drink more too, but
I've never seen a study that says alcohol "causes" schizophrenia.
And ingested cannabis is more harmful to the LUNGS than
smoking cigarettes ? LOL !!!!!
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
[]'s
Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
Yes. Are we comparing "moderate" or "extreme" cases of
cannabis use with coffee ?
[]'s
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There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that extermely strong cannabis, like some varieities of sknunk, can trigger psychotic episodes in the susceptible. Do you question this?
BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 19:43:18 UTC
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Yo! dole whore, if you don't post to all groups
the pot smoker in Brazil won't see your question.


Do try to pay attention.

"saracene" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c009bad9-0e95-451e-b23d-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 5:59:18 PM UTC, Shadow wrote:
: > On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 17:28:48 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: > wrote:
: >
: > >On 19/01/2018 17:15, Shadow wrote:
: > >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:56:09 +0000, Incubus
<***@gmail.com>
: > >> wrote:
: > >>
: > >>> On 19/01/2018 16:09, Shadow wrote:
: > >>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:10:38 +0000, Incubus
<***@gmail.com>
: > >>>> wrote:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>> On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: > >>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: > >>>>>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched
voice:
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
Alcohol Abuse
: > >>>>>>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were
cannabis
: > >>>>>>> dependent.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: > >>>>>> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>> What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be
psychologically
: > >>>>> dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
: > >>>
: > >>>> So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
: > >>>> cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings
and
: > >>>> tatoos.
: > >>>
: > >>> That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical
dependency
: > >>> is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong
with
: > >>> crack cocaine?
: > >>
: > >> Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
: > >> people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
: > >> Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
: > >> contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
: > >> about tobacco ?
: > >
: > >I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
: > >has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
: >
: > So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
: > the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
: > Please include the cents (or pennies) .
: > >
: > >>> It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
: > >>> health risks as cannabis.
: > >>
: > >> Which are ?
: > >
: > >It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
: > >cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
: > >suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
: >
: > There are no studies that take into account that people that
: > are schizophrenic are MORE likely to resort to drugs (of any kind)
: > because they feel "different". Duh. Tip - they drink more too, but
: > I've never seen a study that says alcohol "causes" schizophrenia.
: >
: > And ingested cannabis is more harmful to the LUNGS than
: > smoking cigarettes ? LOL !!!!!
: > >
: > >> Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
: > >> and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
: > >> sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
: > >> []'s
: > >
: > >Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
: > >intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
: >
: > Yes. Are we comparing "moderate" or "extreme" cases of
: > cannabis use with coffee ?
: > []'s
: > --
: > Don't be evil - Google 2004
: > We have a new policy - Google 2012
:
: There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that extermely strong cannabis, like
some varieities of sknunk, can trigger psychotic episodes in the
susceptible. Do you question this?
Shadow
2018-01-19 20:31:21 UTC
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There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that extermely strong cannabis, like
some varieities of sknunk, can trigger psychotic episodes in the
susceptible. Do you question this?
No, I agree. In doses tens or hundreds of times what most
moderate users consume, almost anything can trigger psychotic
episodes.
Large doses of drugs for Parkinson's or asthma will produce
psychotic episodes. Cough medicine anyone ? I've had patients freak
out with anti emetics and anticholinergics. I could give you a list
but it would fill the page.
Study people that stay awake playing video games competitions
for days at a time. They're called psychos for a reason. Sleep
deprivation plays havoc on the mind.
Let's keep the discussion to moderate users, that are the vast
majority. No one is going to outlaw prescription drugs or video games
just because they can, when abused, produce serious (albeit temporary)
mental issues.
[]'s
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The Todal
2018-01-20 13:48:41 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:43:18 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by saracene
There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that extermely strong cannabis, like
some varieities of sknunk, can trigger psychotic episodes in the
susceptible. Do you question this?
No, I agree. In doses tens or hundreds of times what most
moderate users consume, almost anything can trigger psychotic
episodes.
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer? I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Shadow
2018-01-20 14:10:11 UTC
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How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-20 17:37:02 UTC
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You lost again proven by the dodge trying to change subjects
intead of answering.

LUZER!!



"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:48:41 +0000, The Todal <***@icloud.com>
: wrote:
:
: > How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
: >bought from a dealer?
:
: WOW.
: >I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
: >psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
: >what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
: >benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
:
: Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
: produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
: BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
: local supermarket.
: []'s
: --
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: We have a new policy - Google 2012
The Todal
2018-01-20 18:26:52 UTC
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Post by The Todal
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
Shadow
2018-01-20 23:44:04 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
No doctorate (it would mean another 4 years at university
reading books with little or no contact with patients). I have a
master's (that's only 2 years). In medicine. So 8 years university,
and 30 years practice.
"Cannabis should be outlawed because dealers lace it with
dangerous drugs that can cause psychotic episodes".
Do you realize how ridiculous that is ?
[]'s
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saracene
2018-01-21 09:10:08 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
No doctorate (it would mean another 4 years at university
reading books with little or no contact with patients). I have a
master's (that's only 2 years). In medicine. So 8 years university,
and 30 years practice.
"Cannabis should be outlawed because dealers lace it with
dangerous drugs that can cause psychotic episodes".
Do you realize how ridiculous that is ?
[]'s
Of course cannabis should be legal, as should other drugs. It’s an outrage on personal liberty that it isn’t, springing from a socialist mentality that sets the collective well above the individual. It’s like a question of religious freedom, ill understood by puritanical and small minded Americans who have had too much influence on the world. Nevertheless, psychotic episodes do not just result from an adulterated product, but often just from a strong one. Moreover “episodes” frequently turn into more serious breakdowns. I know this from several people of my acquaintance. If it were legal strength and quality could be monitored
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2018-01-21 10:56:03 UTC
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Of course cannabis should be legal, as should other drugs.
I *can* sympathise with politicians who are reluctant to legalise drugs. If drugs were legalised there *would* be a tragedy somewhere, at sometime, after legalisation. The negative effects would be apparent, whereas the overall positives (drop in crime, lives saved through "cleaner" drugs) would be less estimable.
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2018-01-21 11:12:14 UTC
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Of course cannabis should be legal, as should other drugs.
I *can* sympathise with politicians who are reluctant to legalise drugs. If drugs were legalised there *would* be a tragedy somewhere, at sometime, after legalisation. The negative effects would be apparent, whereas the overall positives (drop in crime, lives saved through "cleaner" drugs) would be less estimable.
The freedom argument trumps those considerations. Banning cannabis is like religious persecution. America's self definition as the land of the free is a pathetic provincialism considering it's long obession with prohbition, first of alcohol then of cannabis. One argument agsint legalisaiton is that it would put all the dealers out of business, so they'd need to find other soruces of income. If you want ot be a successful politician I suppose you have to swim with the tide though.
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2018-01-21 15:21:14 UTC
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Of course cannabis should be legal, as should other drugs.
I *can* sympathise with politicians who are reluctant to legalise drugs. If drugs were legalised there *would* be a tragedy somewhere, at sometime, after legalisation. The negative effects would be apparent, whereas the overall positives (drop in crime, lives saved through "cleaner" drugs) would be less estimable.
The freedom argument trumps those considerations.
Oh, I agree.
Post by saracene
Banning cannabis is like religious persecution. America's self definition as the land of the free is a >pathetic provincialism considering it's long obession with prohbition, first of alcohol then of cannabis. >One argument agsint legalisaiton is that it would put all the dealers out of business, so they'd need to >find other soruces of income. If you want ot be a successful politician I suppose you have to swim with >the tide though.
BurfordTJustice
2018-01-21 12:46:52 UTC
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Yet looking back up the thread you dodge all the questions
and keep trying to change the subject.

In the past you admitted to making people disappear
with help from the government guns.(Coppers)

You shor look like a lying common criminal hiding in Brazil.

Still waiting for you to show proof you can leave Brazil.
Post a picture of an Airline ticket to go visit david brooks in Devon.



"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:26:52 +0000, The Todal <***@icloud.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 20/01/2018 14:10, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:48:41 +0000, The Todal <***@icloud.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
: >>> bought from a dealer?
: >>
: >> WOW.
: >>> I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
: >>> psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
: >>> what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
: >>> benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
: >>
: >> Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
: >> produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
: >> BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
: >> local supermarket.
: >> []'s
: >>
: >
: >You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
: >medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
: >a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
:
: No doctorate (it would mean another 4 years at university
: reading books with little or no contact with patients). I have a
: master's (that's only 2 years). In medicine. So 8 years university,
: and 30 years practice.
: "Cannabis should be outlawed because dealers lace it with
: dangerous drugs that can cause psychotic episodes".
: Do you realize how ridiculous that is ?
: []'s
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2018-01-21 14:00:58 UTC
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Yet looking back up the thread you dodge all the questions
There are no questions "up the thread", Bouffant. I don't
suppose you can see that.
But here's some :
Why do you insist in crossposting #FAUX_NEWS to OT groups ?
Why are you mentally incapable of using a simple Usenet client
?
Why lay out all you sexual frustrations to anonymous crowd,
when (I suppose they have them in the US) you can get free psychiatric
counseling ?
Everyone's wondering. The ones that don't killfile you
outright, I mean.
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2018-01-21 14:03:42 UTC
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You lie just like common criminals.

Yet looking back up the thread you dodge all the questions
and keep trying to change the subject.

In the past you admitted to making people disappear
with help from the government guns.(Coppers)

You shor look like a lying common criminal hiding in Brazil.

Still waiting for you to show proof you can leave Brazil.
Post a picture of an Airline ticket to go visit david brooks in Devon.



"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 07:46:52 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked in an ignorant high pitched
: voice:
:
: >Yet looking back up the thread you dodge all the questions
:
: There are no questions "up the thread", Bouffant. I don't
: suppose you can see that.
: But here's some :
: Why do you insist in crossposting #FAUX_NEWS to OT groups ?
: Why are you mentally incapable of using a simple Usenet client
: ?
: Why lay out all you sexual frustrations to anonymous crowd,
: when (I suppose they have them in the US) you can get free psychiatric
: counseling ?
: Everyone's wondering. The ones that don't killfile you
: outright, I mean.
: []'s
:
:
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The Todal
2018-01-21 14:25:31 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
No doctorate (it would mean another 4 years at university
reading books with little or no contact with patients). I have a
master's (that's only 2 years). In medicine. So 8 years university,
and 30 years practice.
"Cannabis should be outlawed because dealers lace it with
dangerous drugs that can cause psychotic episodes".
Do you realize how ridiculous that is ?
[]'s
So why did you say it? I certainly didn't say it.

Let's try another one. "Cannabis is a safe recreational drug with
wonderful healing powers that would benefit many people, and we don't
need to worry about psychosis because that only affects a tiny number of
susceptible people". Do you realise how ridiculous that is?
Shadow
2018-01-21 15:09:26 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
How about a weekend of fairly intensive smoking of weed that was
bought from a dealer?
WOW.
Post by The Todal
I've seen that result in cannabis-induced
psychosis. Just a couple of days. Is that tens or hundreds of times
what most moderate users consume? Where do you see the official
benchmark of what most moderate users consume?
Do they lace coffee with PCP too ? If they did, would that
produce coffee-induced psychosis ?
BRB. Checking my Nescafe. Bought it from a "dealer" at the
local supermarket.
[]'s
You said "after 30 years as a doctor". I don't believe you have any real
medical qualifications but I'd be willing to accept that you might have
a doctorate in something such as modern American culture.
No doctorate (it would mean another 4 years at university
reading books with little or no contact with patients). I have a
master's (that's only 2 years). In medicine. So 8 years university,
and 30 years practice.
"Cannabis should be outlawed because dealers lace it with
dangerous drugs that can cause psychotic episodes".
Do you realize how ridiculous that is ?
[]'s
So why did you say it? I certainly didn't say it.
Let's try another one. "Cannabis is a safe recreational drug with
wonderful healing powers that would benefit many people, and we don't
need to worry about psychosis because that only affects a tiny number of
susceptible people". Do you realise how ridiculous that is?
Yes. It has no "wonderful healing powers". It "heals" nothing.
It can benefit some people with a some medical issues.
That's a lot more than coffee and tobacco do. Last I heard,
they were legal.

I find it amazing that some US governments legalize it, and
then make it so expensive that a massive crime industry has formed
around it. Including money laundering, fake/bought doctor's
prescriptions, protection rackets and of course the much cheaper "on
the street" commerce with PCP/opiate-laced cannabis which continues.

No "grow in your backyard for your own use" as allowed in
Uruguay. Drug-related crime in Uruguay has plummeted, BTW. And also
hospital admissions for "cannabis" (AKA PCP) intoxication.

//We don't need to worry about psychosis because that only
affects a tiny number of susceptible people//

Sure we have to worry about psychosis. It affects a fairly
large percentage (~2%) of the population. The Bouffant is on the
bleeding edge, keep it occupied and it'll probably be too busy to go
out and buy *real* bullets for its gun and go out on a killing spree.
But cannabis is totally unrelated to any form of psychosis,
other than the fact that psychotics are more likely to use mind
altering drugs, of any kind, because psychotics feel different from
the rest of human kind.
Maybe if we could outlaw psychosis that would make you happy ?
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The Todal
2018-01-21 15:47:17 UTC
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Sure we have to worry about psychosis. It affects a fairly
large percentage (~2%) of the population. The Bouffant is on the
bleeding edge, keep it occupied and it'll probably be too busy to go
out and buy *real* bullets for its gun and go out on a killing spree.
But cannabis is totally unrelated to any form of psychosis,
other than the fact that psychotics are more likely to use mind
altering drugs, of any kind, because psychotics feel different from
the rest of human kind.
Maybe if we could outlaw psychosis that would make you happy ?
[]'s
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon. You're in denial, maybe because
you make a living out of cannabis. You certainly lack any medical or
scientific expertise.
Shadow
2018-01-21 18:04:22 UTC
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Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
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2018-01-21 18:09:04 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
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2018-01-21 19:04:32 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.

I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
2018-01-21 19:27:01 UTC
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Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
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: >On 21/01/2018 18:04, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:47:17 +0000, The Todal <***@icloud.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
: >>> cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
: >>
: >> You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
: >> scientific studies that prove your point.
: >> Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
: >> []'s
: >>
: >
: >
: >I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
: >actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
: >you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
: >
: >I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
: >really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
: >afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned
expert.
: >
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Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
A completely unbiased book called "Marijuana Madness" ?
It's on my almost urgent todo list.
I need the hedukation. And Amazon needs the reviews.

"Go to Amazon.com to see all 1 reviews".
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Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
A completely unbiased book called "Marijuana Madness" ?
It's on my almost urgent todo list.
I need the hedukation. And Amazon needs the reviews.
"Go to Amazon.com to see all 1 reviews".
Oh sht. I remember now, I saw the movie.


https://archive.org/download/reefer_madness1938/reefer_madness1938_512kb.mp4

I guess that disqualifies me for giving an unbiased report.
Excellent movie, I was moved by it. From an alert state to
profound sleep.
Nevertheless, "moved".
Not many movies can do that. I strongly recommend it to all
true believers. And it's FREE !!!!
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Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
A completely unbiased book called "Marijuana Madness" ?
It's on my almost urgent todo list.
I need the hedukation. And Amazon needs the reviews.
"Go to Amazon.com to see all 1 reviews".
Oh sht. I remember now, I saw the movie.
https://archive.org/download/reefer_madness1938/reefer_madness1938_512kb.mp4
I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
Post by Shadow
I guess that disqualifies me for giving an unbiased report.
Excellent movie, I was moved by it. From an alert state to
profound sleep.
Nevertheless, "moved".
Not many movies can do that. I strongly recommend it to all
true believers. And it's FREE !!!!
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Post by Shadow
https://archive.org/download/reefer_madness1938/reefer_madness1938_512kb.mp4
I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
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I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
Doc, you'll never make it as a vet. Cats don't suffer from insomnia.
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Spoiler alert: The word is "meow". Without the quotation
marks, all lower case.
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I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
Doc, you'll never make it as a vet. Cats don't suffer from insomnia.
Have you been watching Big Cats on BBC1?

Absolutely fantastic photography!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05q599b

In fact, a truly awesome species! ;-)
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Spoiler alert: The word is "meow". Without the quotation
marks, all lower case.
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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2018-01-22 15:44:26 UTC
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https://archive.org/download/reefer_madness1938/reefer_madness1938_512kb.mp4
I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
Doc, you'll never make it as a vet. Cats don't suffer from insomnia.
only because the never wake up
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2018-01-22 18:52:08 UTC
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I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
Doc, you'll never make it as a vet. Cats don't suffer from insomnia.
only because the never wake up
We sleep like logs because we have no concept of guilt.

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2018-01-22 19:45:47 UTC
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https://archive.org/download/reefer_madness1938/reefer_madness1938_512kb.mp4
I can't watch any more. During a serious discussion on Romeo and Juliet
the accused suddenly fell into a fit of uncontrollable hysterical
laughter. What kind of foul reprobate doesn't take Eng Lit seriously?
You must have severe insomnia. Would you like me to prescribe
a "light" opiate, or maybe a barbiturate ?
Just say the word.
Doc, you'll never make it as a vet. Cats don't suffer from insomnia.
only because the never wake up
Have you been watching Big Cats on BBC1?

Absolutely fantastic photography!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05q599b

In fact, cats are a truly awesome species!
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The Todal
2018-01-22 01:07:15 UTC
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Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
Shadow
2018-01-22 01:30:42 UTC
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Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
Sorry to hear you have a psychotic in the family. Odds and a
(pretty huge) sprinkling of genetics.
Whatever.
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The Todal
2018-01-22 09:42:04 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
Sorry to hear you have a psychotic in the family. Odds and a
(pretty huge) sprinkling of genetics.
Whatever.
[]'s
A psychotic? What a strange term to use. Do you also say "a mentalist"
or "a crazy"?

Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.

In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks with
continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
David B.
2018-01-22 11:19:01 UTC
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Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
    You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
    Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
    []'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
    Sorry to hear you have a psychotic in the family. Odds and a
(pretty huge) sprinkling of genetics.
    Whatever.
    []'s
A psychotic?  What a strange term to use. Do you also say "a mentalist"
or "a crazy"?
Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks with
continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?

I do hope so.
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Shadow
2018-01-22 13:22:04 UTC
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Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
If he/she has, could you post full details ? Not about the
psychosis, he couldn't care less or he would have looked it up.
Facekook contacts for your whole family and employer, social security
number, if you can hack a site, any secrets Barbie Doll (aka BD)could
blackmail you with, and if possible a copyrighted picture of a blonde
model (male or female).
It's for his "research".
TIA
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To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber
https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
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The Todal
2018-01-22 16:25:10 UTC
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Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.

He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.

If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.

So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
David B.
2018-01-22 17:43:48 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.
He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.
If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.
What a dreadful situation for his parents, and possibly siblings, to
have had to cope with. From what you've said I suspect he was very young
at the time.

I'm relieved to learn that he is well again.

It's approaching the 19th anniversary of the unexplained death of my
younger son which no doubt has contributed to me being somewhat maudlin
today.
Post by The Todal
So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
No, not ALL of us! Sadly, perhaps, I've never been part of a group of
people who have behaved in such a manner.

<as an aside>

Do you have any knowledge of 'computing' matters?

Is it the website, or the tool, which is at fault here?

https://imgur.com/gallery/h7Qiw

Views (from anyone!) welcomed.
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2018-01-22 18:06:38 UTC
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<as an aside>
As *STALKING*.
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Do you have any knowledge of 'computing' matters?
Is it the website, or the tool, which is at fault here?
You fucking STALKER! Your special page IS UP FOREVER!
http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
Post by David B.
Views (from anyone!) welcomed.
People need to know you don't care about *anything* except stalking good
people. Plain and simple, cut and dried.
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abelard
2018-01-22 18:17:15 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by David B.
Post by The Todal
Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.
He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.
If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.
What a dreadful situation for his parents, and possibly siblings, to
have had to cope with. From what you've said I suspect he was very young
at the time.
I'm relieved to learn that he is well again.
It's approaching the 19th anniversary of the unexplained death of my
younger son which no doubt has contributed to me being somewhat maudlin
today.
Post by The Todal
So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
No, not ALL of us! Sadly, perhaps, I've never been part of a group of
people who have behaved in such a manner.
<as an aside>
Do you have any knowledge of 'computing' matters?
Is it the website, or the tool, which is at fault here?
https://imgur.com/gallery/h7Qiw
Views (from anyone!) welcomed.
every human has problems...every human is addictive...

some have problems with temper...some with alcohol...

if you are vulnerable to alcohol addiction...you can't
afford one drinky...ever
if you are vulnerable to temper...you can't afford to
lose your temper...ever...

are you addicted to wearing trouser in public?

most of this thread is babble


i've worked with addicts...i fear cannabis more than
cocaine and heroin...
imv hash damages the brain...permanently...mostly
the others don't do that so quickly

http://www.abelard.org/drugs.php
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David B.
2018-01-23 00:44:11 UTC
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Post by abelard
every human has problems...every human is addictive...
some have problems with temper...some with alcohol...
if you are vulnerable to alcohol addiction...you can't
afford one drinky...ever
if you are vulnerable to temper...you can't afford to
lose your temper...ever...
are you addicted to wearing trouser in public?
most of this thread is babble
Some, but not all!
Post by abelard
i've worked with addicts...i fear cannabis more than
cocaine and heroin...
imv hash damages the brain...permanently...mostly
the others don't do that so quickly
http://www.abelard.org/drugs.php
I've spent quite some time at your VERY interesting web site abelard.

I will return there! ;-)

Now, I'll ask you again ....

Is it the website, or the tool, which is at fault here? (Mx Toolbox)

https://imgur.com/gallery/h7Qiw

I'd appreciate a technically slanted answer.
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2018-01-23 01:11:59 UTC
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Now, I'll ask you again ....
Is it the website, or the tool, which is at fault here? (Mx Toolbox)
https://imgur.com/gallery/h7Qiw
It's my website, asshole. There is NOTHING untoward about it. You have a
faulty tool. You don't understand what it means. You only do this so you
can continue to STALK me. You've been doing it - telling lies - for over a
decade.
Post by David B.
I'd appreciate a technically slanted answer.
You wouldn't understand it at all. You don't understand ANY technical
matters.
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David B.
2018-01-23 01:19:11 UTC
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On 23/01/2018 01:11, Beauregard T. Shagnasty claimed
You have a faulty tool.
Is he right?

When I was learning to fly my instructor drummed into his students that
they should ALWAYS believe their instruments.

Goodnight.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2018-01-23 01:23:09 UTC
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You have a faulty tool.
Is he right?
Yes.
Post by David B.
When I was learning to fly my instructor drummed into his students that
they should ALWAYS believe their instruments.
You didn't learn it, though. You washed out of flight school "as a danger
to yourself and others." So you reported about yourself...
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Char Jackson
2018-01-23 07:10:53 UTC
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Post by David B.
On 23/01/2018 01:11, Beauregard T. Shagnasty claimed
You have a faulty tool.
Is he right?
Of course he's right, but you don't care because that doesn't fit the
plan. You need him to be wrong.
Post by David B.
Goodnight.
Code for "I'm ready to pass out again." You drunks are a hoot.
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The drunken kook bluffs about about filing a lawsuit:
"It appears that we'll now have to meet in court as YOU are
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Incubus
2018-01-23 11:28:03 UTC
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Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.
He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.
If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.
So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
Let's hope he never has to go through that again.

Of course, according to Dr Shadow who isn't actually a real doctor,
coffee is just as safe and the weed in question must surely have been
spiked with phencyclidine.

I know a number of people who have experienced cocaine induced
psychosis. That doesn't sound much fun either.
Shadow
2018-01-23 12:14:17 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.
He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.
If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.
So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
Let's hope he never has to go through that again.
Of course, according to Dr Shadow who isn't actually a real doctor,
coffee is just as safe and the weed in question must surely have been
spiked with phencyclidine.
I know a number of people who have experienced cocaine induced
psychosis. That doesn't sound much fun either.
You appear to have spent more time in a psychiatric hospital
than I have. WOW, the amount of very rare cases you "know" !!!!
I was there as head doctor. What were you, inpatient,
outpatient or just visiting ?
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Incubus
2018-01-23 15:30:19 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Being psychotic is very often a temporary state of mind and doesn't
label a person forever.
In the case of my family member it lasted something like four weeks
with continuing disability for at least six weeks after that.
Has your family member made a full and complete recovery from his/her
illness?
I do hope so.
We believe he has made a full and complete recovery but the very
experienced psychiatrist who treated him warned him that henceforth he
should avoid using cannabis (or cocaine, for that matter, though he's
never tried that) because he will now be vulnerable to further episodes.
He has taken that warning very seriously. He remembers the experience as
terrifying even though, at the height of the psychosis, he was manic and
not fully aware of what was happening. Voices speaking to him from the
TV, a belief that a friend was hidden in the house, a belief that he was
required to recruit people to form a nationwide pressure group.
If he had been living by himself he'd probably have walked into the
traffic and got killed. If he'd been in employment he'd probably have
lost his job and prejudiced his future employment prospects.
So it's a far cry from the episodes of paranoia that we've all
experienced occasionally when getting stoned on weed.
Let's hope he never has to go through that again.
Of course, according to Dr Shadow who isn't actually a real doctor,
coffee is just as safe and the weed in question must surely have been
spiked with phencyclidine.
I know a number of people who have experienced cocaine induced
psychosis. That doesn't sound much fun either.
You appear to have spent more time in a psychiatric hospital
than I have. WOW, the amount of very rare cases you "know" !!!!
Who said I met them in a psychiatric hospital? I don't think it's as
rare as you think.
Post by Shadow
I was there as head doctor.
Wait, you were head doctor even though you're not actually a real
doctor? Maybe you were experiencing psychosis and just thought you were
the head doctor. Either that or you're an experienced fantasist because
nothing you have said indicates you have any formal knowledge on such
matters.
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I know a number of people who have experienced cocaine induced
psychosis. That doesn't sound much fun either.
You appear to have spent more time in a psychiatric hospital
than I have. WOW, the amount of very rare cases you "know" !!!!
Who said I met them in a psychiatric hospital? I don't think it's as
rare as you think.
Burroughs wrote about the coke horrors:-

“I was travelling with Irene Kelly and her was a sporting woman. In Butte, state of Montany, her got the coke horrors and run through the hotel screaming Chinese coppers chase her with meat cleavers. I knew this cop in Chi sniff coke used to come in form of crystals, blue crystals. So her go nuts and start screaming the Federals is after him and run down this alley and stick his head in the garbage can. And I said, ‘What you think you are doing? and her say, ‘Get away or I shoot you! I got myself led good!’
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2018-01-22 01:54:47 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
I can only assume then that you have some background is bio-chemistry,
or psychiatry? It's a pretty technical book.

Personally, I have only one experience where a friend of mine who enjoys
cannabis told me a story about her night out with an ex. Long story
short she described 'the incident' as paranoia which was my impression
from the story I was told, well part anxiety, part paranoia, whatever.
She said it was a common experience.

Anyway, I make a point of not researching serious illness on the
Internet aside from learning enough to figure out WTF the doc is talking
about. For that I go to the NHS site which has always appeared to offer
some carefully thought through and authoritative facts without zooming
off into cloud cuckoo land.

https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/cannabis-facts.aspx

says

"it makes some people feel confused, anxious or paranoid, and some
experience panic attacks and hallucinations – this is more common with
stronger forms of cannabis like skunk or sinsemilla"

Which fits my one and only secondhand experience.

It also says.

"Can you get addicted to cannabis?

Research shows that 10% of regular cannabis users become dependent on
it. Your risk of getting addicted is higher if you start using it in
your teens or use it every day. "

and

"Cannabis and mental health

Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).

Your risk of developing a psychotic illness is higher if:

you start using cannabis at a young age
you smoke stronger types, such as skunk
you smoke it regularly
you use it for a long time
you smoke cannabis and also have other risk factors for
schizophrenia, such as a family history of the illness

Cannabis also increases the risk of a relapse in people who already have
schizophrenia, and it can make psychotic symptoms worse."

Anyway, I'll let you argue that with the doc because I know my limits.
I've never understood why people use it anyway. Confirmed coffee addict
and I like an occasional beer.

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Post by The Todal
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
I can only assume then that you have some background is bio-chemistry,
or psychiatry? It's a pretty technical book.
Personally, I have only one experience where a friend of mine who enjoys
cannabis told me a story about her night out with an ex. Long story
short she described 'the incident' as paranoia which was my impression
from the story I was told, well part anxiety, part paranoia, whatever.
She said it was a common experience.
Anyway, I make a point of not researching serious illness on the
Internet aside from learning enough to figure out WTF the doc is talking
about. For that I go to the NHS site which has always appeared to offer
some carefully thought through and authoritative facts without zooming
off into cloud cuckoo land.
https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/cannabis-facts.aspx
says
"it makes some people feel confused, anxious or paranoid, and some
experience panic attacks and hallucinations – this is more common with
stronger forms of cannabis like skunk or sinsemilla"
Which fits my one and only secondhand experience.
It also says.
"Can you get addicted to cannabis?
Research shows that 10% of regular cannabis users become dependent on
it. Your risk of getting addicted is higher if you start using it in
your teens or use it every day. "
and
"Cannabis and mental health
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
you start using cannabis at a young age
you smoke stronger types, such as skunk
you smoke it regularly
you use it for a long time
you smoke cannabis and also have other risk factors for
schizophrenia, such as a family history of the illness
Cannabis also increases the risk of a relapse in people who already have
schizophrenia, and it can make psychotic symptoms worse."
Was that trash government funded ? OMG, makes you want to be a
brainless redneck.
[]'s
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Anyway, I'll let you argue that with the doc because I know my limits.
I've never understood why people use it anyway. Confirmed coffee addict
and I like an occasional beer.
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2018-01-22 09:30:04 UTC
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by The Todal
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by The Todal
Post by Shadow
Post by The Todal
Cannabis induced psychosis - that is, psychosis directly caused by
cannabis - is a well-proved phenomenon.
You win. I'll cite you, since there are NO other "reliable"
scientific studies that prove your point.
Is that Mr Todal, or Dr Todal MD ?
[]'s
I do apologise. As a total layman with no scientific skills, you don't
actually know how to research scientific articles or medical books - and
you rely on strangers in usenet to point you in the right direction.
I should have appreciated the extent of your handicap and I'm sorry, I
really could have been more helpful. Here you go, then. If you can
afford it, get a copy and read it. Robin Murray is a world-renowned expert.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Madness-David-Castle/dp/1107000211/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Have you read it?
Yes, I bought it and read it carefully when a member of my family was
suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis.
I can only assume then that you have some background is bio-chemistry,
or psychiatry? It's a pretty technical book.
Personally, I have only one experience where a friend of mine who enjoys
cannabis told me a story about her night out with an ex. Long story
short she described 'the incident' as paranoia which was my impression
from the story I was told, well part anxiety, part paranoia, whatever.
She said it was a common experience.
Anyway, I make a point of not researching serious illness on the
Internet aside from learning enough to figure out WTF the doc is talking
about. For that I go to the NHS site which has always appeared to offer
some carefully thought through and authoritative facts without zooming
off into cloud cuckoo land.
https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/cannabis-facts.aspx
says
"it makes some people feel confused, anxious or paranoid, and some
experience panic attacks and hallucinations – this is more common with
stronger forms of cannabis like skunk or sinsemilla"
Which fits my one and only secondhand experience.
It also says.
"Can you get addicted to cannabis?
Research shows that 10% of regular cannabis users become dependent on
it. Your risk of getting addicted is higher if you start using it in
your teens or use it every day. "
and
"Cannabis and mental health
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
you start using cannabis at a young age
you smoke stronger types, such as skunk
you smoke it regularly
you use it for a long time
you smoke cannabis and also have other risk factors for
schizophrenia, such as a family history of the illness
Cannabis also increases the risk of a relapse in people who already have
schizophrenia, and it can make psychotic symptoms worse."
Was that trash government funded ? OMG, makes you want to be a
brainless redneck.
Yes, it is government funded. Point being, as a layman I am left
confused. There are some things anyone can grasp but much of medical
science really requires a formal education, ongoing education and
research, and a lifetime of experience. I have none of that and neither
am I likely ever to acquire that. I'm just sayin. So this friend of
mine's ex's paranoia/anxiety experience which sounded full on, IYO would
cannabis do that or would you expect the stuff was laced with other
chemicals? I hear rumours about newer stronger types of weed. What's
your opinion. Are they worse? I have no idea.
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Anyway, I'll let you argue that with the doc because I know my limits.
I've never understood why people use it anyway. Confirmed coffee addict
and I like an occasional beer.
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Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?

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Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.
you used it...

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:33 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
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Post by Shadow
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.
you used it...
I didn't 'use' it. I made it very plain that I don't kid myself that I
have the skills to 'use' it. I contributed to the debate my experience
and what I found. Try to understand that some people are simply
listening to others opinions not just their own or in this case I really
have no opinion.
Post by abelard
now answer the question
What question? You spew out 'fascist 'new' labour' like someone who
punctuates their sentences with swear words. I find it quite comical.

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Post by abelard
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:33 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by Shadow
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.
you used it...
I didn't 'use' it. I made it very plain that I don't kid myself that I
have the skills to 'use' it. I contributed to the debate my experience
and what I found. Try to understand that some people are simply
listening to others opinions not just their own or in this case I really
have no opinion.
Post by abelard
now answer the question
What question? You spew out 'fascist 'new' labour' like someone who
punctuates their sentences with swear words. I find it quite comical.
stop with the excuses and answer the question
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Post by abelard
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:33 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by Shadow
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.
you used it...
I didn't 'use' it. I made it very plain that I don't kid myself that I
have the skills to 'use' it. I contributed to the debate my experience
and what I found. Try to understand that some people are simply
listening to others opinions not just their own or in this case I really
have no opinion.
Post by abelard
now answer the question
What question? You spew out 'fascist 'new' labour' like someone who
punctuates their sentences with swear words. I find it quite comical.
stop with the excuses and answer the question
I am a cat and therefore a more complex being than a mere human. I don't
believe in the cyclical nature of time, the study of history as some
kind of indicator of what must be, or any such nonsense. Neither do I
believe in prophecy, prophets or destiny. I am able to see beyond your
universe and there observing humankind from my seat on the windowsill
what I see is the cyclical nature of humans. I need not mention your
mantra but know this the tedium of its incessant utterance is attenuated
by those of 7 billion others of your species all with their own absurd
belief systems. Cats are here to help you. At some instinctive level you
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Post by abelard
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:33 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Post by Shadow
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:54:47 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Regular cannabis use increases your risk of developing a psychotic
illness, such as schizophrenia. A psychotic illness is one where you
have hallucinations (seeing things that aren't really there) and
delusions (believing things that aren't really true).
do you include the fascist 'new' labour party in your 'definition'?
if not, why not?
It's not my definition but why let simple facts get in the way of your
hallucinations aye. You enjoy yourself.
you used it...
I didn't 'use' it. I made it very plain that I don't kid myself that I
have the skills to 'use' it. I contributed to the debate my experience
and what I found. Try to understand that some people are simply
listening to others opinions not just their own or in this case I really
have no opinion.
Post by abelard
now answer the question
What question? You spew out 'fascist 'new' labour' like someone who
punctuates their sentences with swear words. I find it quite comical.
stop with the excuses and answer the question
I am a cat and therefore a more complex being than a mere human. I don't
believe in the cyclical nature of time, the study of history as some
kind of indicator of what must be, or any such nonsense. Neither do I
believe in prophecy, prophets or destiny. I am able to see beyond your
universe and there observing humankind from my seat on the windowsill
what I see is the cyclical nature of humans. I need not mention your
mantra but know this the tedium of its incessant utterance is attenuated
by those of 7 billion others of your species all with their own absurd
belief systems. Cats are here to help you. At some instinctive level you
know this to be true. You just need to find the humility within yourself
to admit this.
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2018-01-19 19:35:51 UTC
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Kep dancing little man..
Meanwhile:
Look no further than the admitted POT smokers on usenet...LOL



Cannabis users are more likely to feel deceived and alienated by others,
study finds

Cannabis users are more likely to experience negative emotions, particularly
feeling alienated from others, new research reveals.

People who use marijuana are significantly more likely to feel that others
wish them harm or are deceiving them, a US study found.

Brain scans also reveal the class-B drug increases signal connectivity in
regions of the brain that have previously been linked to psychosis, the
research adds, which is associated with severe depression.

Teenage cannabis users are particularly affected as their brains are still
developing, according to the researchers.

In the US, 44 percent of those aged 12 or over have used cannabis at some
point in their lives.

How the research was carried out

The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.

The study's participants completed a questionnaire that asked them about
their feelings of stress, aggression, reactivity and alienation.

Brain scans were also taken of all of the participants.

Link between cannabis and mental health

Dr Cameron Carter, editor of the journal Biological Psychiatry: Cognitive
Neuroscience and Neuroimaging, where the study was published, said: 'These
brain imaging data provide a link between changes in brain systems involved
in reward and psychopathology and chronic cannabis abuse, suggesting a
mechanism by which heavy use of this popular drug may lead to depression and
other even more severe forms of mental illness.'

According to study author Dr Peter Manza, measuring brain activity is
relatively easy and non-invasive.

Therefore, the procedure used in the investigation could be carried out to
monitor cannabis users' mental health risks.

This comes after researchers from Warwick Medical School discovered in
December last year teenage cannabis use may increase a person's risk of
suffering from bipolar disorder in later life.

People who used cannabis at least two-to-three times a week at 17 years old
are more likely to experience hypomania in their earlier 20s, according to
the first study of its kind.




"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 17:28:48 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 19/01/2018 17:15, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:56:09 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On 19/01/2018 16:09, Shadow wrote:
: >>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:10:38 +0000, Incubus
<***@gmail.com>
: >>>> wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>> On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: >>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: >>>>>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched
voice:
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and
Alcohol Abuse
: >>>>>>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were
cannabis
: >>>>>>> dependent.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: >>>>>> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: >>>>>
: >>>>> What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be
psychologically
: >>>>> dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
: >>>
: >>>> So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
: >>>> cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
: >>>> tatoos.
: >>>
: >>> That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
: >>> is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong
with
: >>> crack cocaine?
: >>
: >> Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
: >> people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
: >> Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
: >> contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
: >> about tobacco ?
: >
: >I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
: >has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
:
: So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
: the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
: Please include the cents (or pennies) .
: >
: >>> It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
: >>> health risks as cannabis.
: >>
: >> Which are ?
: >
: >It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
: >cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
: >suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
:
: There are no studies that take into account that people that
: are schizophrenic are MORE likely to resort to drugs (of any kind)
: because they feel "different". Duh. Tip - they drink more too, but
: I've never seen a study that says alcohol "causes" schizophrenia.
:
: And ingested cannabis is more harmful to the LUNGS than
: smoking cigarettes ? LOL !!!!!
: >
: >> Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
: >> and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
: >> sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
: >> []'s
: >
: >Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
: >intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
:
: Yes. Are we comparing "moderate" or "extreme" cases of
: cannabis use with coffee ?
: []'s
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Incubus
2018-01-23 08:55:58 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
Post by BurfordTJustice
The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse
in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
dependent.
WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
tatoos.
That doesn't answer my question. After all, if no physical dependency
is a selling point then presumably you think there's nothing wrong with
crack cocaine?
Cocaine makes people do crazy things. Including killing other
people. It's almost as bad as alcohol. Both should be banned, IMHO.
Tobacco only affects the ADDICT and people he has close
contact to, so it's not as bad as cocaine, or alcohol. What you think
about tobacco ?
I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
Please include the cents (or pennies) .
What possible relevance does this have?
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
It should also be noted that caffeine and Usenet don't have the same
health risks as cannabis.
Which are ?
It is known to bring on latent mental illnesses such as schizophrenia,
cause psychosis and cause anxiety and depression. Recent studies also
suggest that it is more harmful to the lungs than tobacco.
There are no studies that take into account that people that
are schizophrenic are MORE likely to resort to drugs (of any kind)
because they feel "different". Duh. Tip - they drink more too, but
I've never seen a study that says alcohol "causes" schizophrenia.
There is no causal link between alcohol and schizophrenia.
Post by Shadow
And ingested cannabis is more harmful to the LUNGS than
smoking cigarettes ? LOL !!!!!
Now you're shifting the goalposts to specify a particular means of
consumption.
Post by Shadow
Post by Incubus
Post by Shadow
Caffeine certainly is very bad for the heart (despite the ads)
and can make peripheral arterial diseases worse, and Usenet leads to
sedentarism, but I'm wondering about cannabis.
[]'s
Most of the evidence I am familiar with suggests that moderate caffeine
intake has benefits but extreme consumption is bad.
Yes. Are we comparing "moderate" or "extreme" cases of
cannabis use with coffee ?
[]'s
I'm not sure what comparison you are making - whatever fits your
preconceptions, it seems.
Shadow
2018-01-23 12:10:25 UTC
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I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
Please include the cents (or pennies) .
What possible relevance does this have?
re tobacco

//>>> I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it
causes has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.//

Apparently it's all about costs. Not about innocent children
growing up with respiratory diseases and being knackered for life.
Maybe I need to review my moral values. I thought the children
were important.
[]'s
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Incubus
2018-01-23 15:20:26 UTC
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Post by Incubus
I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it causes
has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.
So how much is the life of a child or other person living with
the smoker worth, in your opinion ?
Please include the cents (or pennies) .
What possible relevance does this have?
re tobacco
//>>> I'm content for it to be taxed at a level where any illness it
causes has been paid for where the NHS is concerned.//
Apparently it's all about costs. Not about innocent children
growing up with respiratory diseases and being knackered for life.
Maybe I need to review my moral values. I thought the children
were important.
[]'s
But why was tobacco relevant to the discussion? It was a red herring.
The health risks of tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, diacetyl-morphine or
freebase cocaine have no bearing on whether cannabis is safe and causes
dependence.
BurfordTJustice
2018-01-19 17:09:39 UTC
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Typical POT smoker dodge diversion.



"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:10:38 +0000, Incubus <***@gmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >On 19/01/2018 12:48, Shadow wrote:
: >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:44:15 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: >> <burford/***@uk.MI15> squeaked, in a stoned high pitched voice:
: >>
: >>> The researchers, from the National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol
Abuse
: >>> in Bethesda, Maryland, analyzed 60 people, half of which were cannabis
: >>> dependent.
: >>
: >> WOW, 60 people !!!! And they managed to find 30 who were
: >> dependent on a drug that does not cause dependency !!!!!
: >
: >What do you mean by causing dependency? People can be psychologically
: >dependent on a substance that doesn't produce physical dependence.
:
: So let's run a study on coffee (higher dependency ratings than
: cannabis) or even Usenet. And don't get me going about piercings and
: tatoos.
: I'm sure we could get a few hundred subjects to conduct our
: "study".
: And the Bouffant could rant about them and ignore alcohol and
: tobacco .....
: []'s
:
: PS Sorry about the lack of a OT in my first reply. I was
: replying from a group where it is not OT, and didn't notice the
: crosspost to freeware and computer-related newsgroups.
: --
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: We have a new policy - Google 2012
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2018-01-19 19:51:10 UTC
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Typical POT smoker dodge diversion.
Are you qualified. No.

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2018-01-21 08:50:05 UTC
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Look no further than the admitted POT smokers on usenet...LOL
Cannabis users are more likely to feel deceived and alienated by others,
study finds
Cannabis users are more likely to experience negative emotions, particularly
feeling alienated from others, new research reveals.
People who use marijuana are significantly more likely to feel that others
wish them harm or are deceiving them, a US study found.
This is one of those cases where you think "why does anyone think it necessary to carry out a study"?

Long-term pot smokers are identified by the following traits;

1. A belief that they occupy a plane of worldliness, insight and esoteric understanding that is way above ordinary people. The long-term cannabis user looks down on the political and social interpretations of others with a lofty distain.

2. Paranoia and small-mindedness, somewhat in contrast to the standpoint in [1]. Profound offence can be caused by an innocuous comment or circumstance.

3. A lady-doth-protest-too-much defence of cannibis itself.
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