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'Talking through your turban'
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Farmer Giles
2019-11-28 19:14:59 UTC
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I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.

This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.

We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.

Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.

'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Keema's Nan
2019-11-28 19:51:16 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
I have seen a vision of this country in the future, and it is a nightmare.
Incubus
2019-11-29 09:32:32 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
I have seen a vision of this country in the future, and it is a nightmare.
George Orwell saw it long ago.
Yellow
2019-11-29 02:13:48 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
I thought this was quite a witty comment, given the chap was actually
wearing a turban.

But we might also say "keep your wig on" regardless of whether someone
is or not wearing a wig, or even has hair......
Basil Jet
2019-11-29 04:31:07 UTC
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Post by Yellow
I thought this was quite a witty comment, given the chap was actually
wearing a turban.
But we might also say "keep your wig on" regardless of whether someone
is or not wearing a wig, or even has hair......
You probably shouldn't say it to a Hasidic woman though.
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abelard
2019-11-29 11:07:41 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
I thought this was quite a witty comment, given the chap was actually
wearing a turban.
But we might also say "keep your wig on" regardless of whether someone
is or not wearing a wig, or even has hair......
Wigs on the green,
a colloquial expression (orig. Irish) for coming to blows or sharp
altercation (wigs being liable to fall or be pulled off in a
fray).[OED]
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Incubus
2019-11-29 09:32:05 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
The general rule is, if someone's conduct can be perceived as racism for
personal advantage, it will be.
abelard
2019-11-29 11:09:23 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
The general rule is, if someone's conduct can be perceived as racism for
personal advantage, it will be.
another general rule
socialism and humour re incompatible
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Gary Walker
2019-11-29 11:35:31 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Ludlow - nice part of the world.

The worst thing he can do in these circumstances, is to apologise. Being a politician, he may well be unconscious of the opportunity he's been handed, here. The common man, in these times, is far more likely to lend him his vote if he makes a very public refusal to apologise or compromise in any way and instead attack the victim culture. People outside of the MSM, politics and the public institutions are sick to the back teeth of being berated over the "isms".
Keema's Nan
2019-11-29 19:02:11 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Ludlow - nice part of the world.
Zzap! 64 had their offices there.
Post by Gary Walker
The worst thing he can do in these circumstances, is to apologise. Being a
politician, he may well be unconscious of the opportunity he's been handed,
here. The common man, in these times, is far more likely to lend him his
vote
if he makes a very public refusal to apologise or compromise in any way and
instead attack the victim culture. People outside of the MSM, politics and
the public institutions are sick to the back teeth of being berated over the
"isms".
The only problem is that he also has to appease the party donors.
Would it be acceptable to accuse a Jewish man of “talking through his
kippah"?
Incubus
2019-12-02 10:59:02 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Ludlow - nice part of the world.
Zzap! 64 had their offices there.
Post by Gary Walker
The worst thing he can do in these circumstances, is to apologise. Being a
politician, he may well be unconscious of the opportunity he's been handed,
here. The common man, in these times, is far more likely to lend him his
vote
if he makes a very public refusal to apologise or compromise in any way and
instead attack the victim culture. People outside of the MSM, politics and
the public institutions are sick to the back teeth of being berated over the
"isms".
The only problem is that he also has to appease the party donors.
Would it be acceptable to accuse a Jewish man of “talking through his
kippah"?
I think a Labour Party MP should try it. It's quite amusing seeing their own
witch hunt tactics being turned back on them.

Farmer Giles
2019-12-01 07:59:29 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Ludlow - nice part of the world.
The worst thing he can do in these circumstances, is to apologise. Being a politician, he may well be unconscious of the opportunity he's been handed, here. The common man, in these times, is far more likely to lend him his vote if he makes a very public refusal to apologise or compromise in any way and instead attack the victim culture. People outside of the MSM, politics and the public institutions are sick to the back teeth of being berated over the "isms".
He has apologised, I gather, and I agree it was wrong to do that. Now I
understand - from the local news - that he is being investigated for a
'hate crime', and the police are carrying out an investigation.

The world gets madder by the day.
Joe
2019-12-01 09:08:11 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
He has apologised, I gather, and I agree it was wrong to do that. Now
I understand - from the local news - that he is being investigated
for a 'hate crime', and the police are carrying out an investigation.
The world gets madder by the day.
No, not the world, just the small part of it that has acquired power of
some kind.

The saying 'power corrupts' is not just referring to financial
corruption.
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Joe
Farmer Giles
2019-12-01 10:24:16 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 07:59:29 +0000
Post by Farmer Giles
He has apologised, I gather, and I agree it was wrong to do that. Now
I understand - from the local news - that he is being investigated
for a 'hate crime', and the police are carrying out an investigation.
The world gets madder by the day.
No, not the world, just the small part of it that has acquired power of
some kind.
Which much of the world has allowed.
Post by Joe
The saying 'power corrupts' is not just referring to financial
corruption.
Corruption generally enables the power, then it exploits.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-01 11:53:29 UTC
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Post by Joe
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Post by Farmer Giles
He has apologised, I gather, and I agree it was wrong to do that. Now
I understand - from the local news - that he is being investigated
for a 'hate crime', and the police are carrying out an investigation.
The world gets madder by the day.
No, not the world, just the small part of it that has acquired power of
some kind.
Which much of the world has allowed.
There is little else it could have done with a few individuals controlling
the global MSM network, and restricting ‘free’ (aka non-PC) speech.

No one replied to my “talking through your kippah” comment. They are too
frightened of being labelled anti-semitic.
Post by Farmer Giles
Post by Joe
The saying 'power corrupts' is not just referring to financial
corruption.
Corruption generally enables the power, then it exploits.
These days wealth enables the power.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-01 09:26:36 UTC
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Post by Gary Walker
Post by Farmer Giles
I see that my MP (well, Tory candidate) - Philip Dunne, Ludlow - is in
trouble for saying to his Labour opponent, a Sikh, that he was 'talking
through his turban'.
This has sparked the usual outrage, from the usual quarters, with calls
for Mr Dunne to resign. Of course he has been accused of 'racism' -
hardly a unique charge these days.
We are seeing more and more of this intolerance, and of course it's
generally led and orchestrated by the usual subjects - and backed up by
the agenda-driven MSM. We are gradually getting to a state in this
country where no-one will be able to say anything to anyone soon -
unless it's an ethnic minority criticising a white person, which of
course is perfectly acceptable.
Banter and name-calling is a long established British tradition, so
perhaps it's not unreasonable to say to those who don't seem able to
accept our way of life that maybe they would be happier moving elsewhere.
'You are talking through your hat' is, and and always has been in this
country, a polite way of saying that you disagree with someone - so
what's wrong with modifying that to accomodate other kinds of headgear?
Ludlow - nice part of the world.
The worst thing he can do in these circumstances, is to apologise. Being a
politician, he may well be unconscious of the opportunity he's been handed,
here. The common man, in these times, is far more likely to lend him his
vote if he makes a very public refusal to apologise or compromise in any
way and instead attack the victim culture. People outside of the MSM,
politics and the public institutions are sick to the back teeth of being
berated over the "isms".
He has apologised, I gather, and I agree it was wrong to do that. Now I
understand - from the local news - that he is being investigated for a
'hate crime', and the police are carrying out an investigation.
The world gets madder by the day.
But seems to be sane enough to organise a “terror” attack during the
build up to a general election.
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