On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:41:04 -0000 (UTC), Incubus
Post by Incubus Post by Ian Jackson Post by Incubus Post by Ian Jackson Post by Incubus Post by Ian Jackson Post by Incubus Post by Joe
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 12:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
Post by firstname.lastname@example.org
"The law in relation to the referendum is that it was not binding
upon this Parliament. ... it was not binding as a matter of law."
(Citation: HC Deb, 25 September 2019, c667)
But where in the leaflet delivered to every household in the UK does it
say that the referendum will be only advisory, and will only be
implemented if the government feels like doing so?
When Parliament voted to give notice under Article 50, was that advisory also?
However, the overwhelming vote in favour of allowing the PM to implement
A50 did not occur because an overwhelming majority of MPs genuinely
thought it was a good idea that we should leave the EU. On the contrary
- an overwhelming majority reluctantly felt obliged to allow TWOTP to be
carried out (even though they need not have done this). Only the
Liberals stuck to their guns, and were prepared to look after the real
interests of the country.
Or, to put it another way, only the Liberal Democrats were prepared to show
contempt for democracy and make their name a joke.
No. They decided to use a bit of common sense - because although we were
given the choice of voting for apples or oranges, many decided that they
didn't like pears, and decided to vote for bananas.
Now you are really being daft.
No dafter than those who voted to leave - but did so for reasons that
were actually little or nothing to do with us being in the EU.
Oh yes, those mythical voters who called into LBC and claimed it was all about
austerity all along.
Move on, nothing to see here.
Post by Ian Jackson
course, many didn't realise this at the time - and I fear that despite
the passage of over three years, there are still a fair number who still
don't realise that leaving the EU won't address the problems that they
believe it will fix.
What problems do you believe have been fixed by joining the EU?
That's a simple question to answer. I'll let another commenter's words
speak to truth:
The UK in the early 1970s was dull, prudish, hyocritical, boring and,
mostly, still in black and white. The banks closed at three, the shops
closed at five and the pubs closed at 10.30. On Sundays and on
Wednesday afternoons everything was shut. Late night television
finished at midnight, and that was only on Friday and Saturday. Food
was bland, beer was warm, lager was trendy and wine was for the
wealthy. Brandy and Babycham was a cocktail. Everybody drank tea, all
the bloody time.
British cars looked awful, were badly built and you usually had to
wait months for delivery because the car makers were on strike; or the
trains or the power stations etc.
Still it was the good old days: women, children, foreigners,
homosexuals and blacks still knew their place. There was no domestic
violence, although a lot of women walked into doors. There was no rape
or child abuse or, if it did happen, it was the "slut's" own fault
"for leading men on". Everybody trusted bankers, businessmen, doctors,
journalists, policemen, politicians, priests, and Rolf Harris.
If you were rich, white and a man the UK was great place to live in
the early 1970s. Boris Johnson would have loved it.
By joining the EU we were dragged kicking and screaming into the