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Yellow
2020-01-31 10:14:28 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.

Happy Brexit Day. :-)
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 10:25:14 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-) Maybe you already
have, if Brexit by itself is enough? I'm glad it seems to be coming to
an end; but I am going to sit on the fence (as I always tend to do), at
least for a short while, regarding the 'goodness' of the whole thing.
Ian Jackson
2020-01-31 13:14:55 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-) Maybe you already
have, if Brexit by itself is enough? I'm glad it seems to be coming to
an end; but I am going to sit on the fence (as I always tend to do), at
least for a short while, regarding the 'goodness' of the whole thing.
From what I've heard over the last three years, many in-phoners have
been more interested in 'winning' the Brexit marathon, and not in what
the 'prize' might turn out to be. Hopefully, for all our sakes, the
promised crock of gold won't turn out to be a crock of shit.
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 13:34:52 UTC
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 It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
 Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)  Maybe you already
have, if Brexit by itself is enough?  I'm glad it seems to be coming
to an end; but I am going to sit on the fence (as I always tend to
do), at least for a short while, regarding the 'goodness' of the whole
thing.
From what I've heard over the last three years, many in-phoners have
been more interested in 'winning' the Brexit marathon, and not in what
the 'prize' might turn out to be. Hopefully, for all our sakes, the
promised crock of gold won't turn out to be a crock of shit.
The whole argument has, IMHO, gone beyond logic (I suppose, because it
has been conducted by people). I think it would have been better to
have had no delay at all.
Roger
2020-01-31 14:04:22 UTC
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The whole argument has, IMHO, gone beyond logic (I suppose, because it
has been conducted by people). I think it would have been better to
have had no delay at all.
Beyond Critical Thinking.

Most of the more important aspects and problems surrounding the EU have not been touched on at all in the debate.
Roger
2020-01-31 13:58:28 UTC
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From what I've heard over the last three years, many in-phoners have
been more interested in 'winning' the Brexit marathon, and not in what
the 'prize' might turn out to be.
I think this says far more about the sort of people who phone in than Brexit itself.
Ian Jackson
2020-01-31 15:41:44 UTC
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From what I've heard over the last three years, many in-phoners have
been more interested in 'winning' the Brexit marathon, and not in what
the 'prize' might turn out to be.
I think this says far more about the sort of people who phone in than Brexit itself.
You could be right. It's pretty obvious that some of the Brexiteer
in-phoners have little concept of who were really behind the call for
the Brexit referendum, (apart, obviously, from Nigel Farage), what the
specific benefits and detriments would definitely be to the UK, and what
the unforeseen consequences might be. For many, siding with the winning
team has, in itself, been sufficient reward - and they are determined
that no one is going to take their glorious victory (whatever it turns
out to be) away from them.
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Basil Jet
2020-01-31 14:47:31 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)
If it works out one tenth as good as the Trump presidency,
I'll be over the moon.
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 14:50:12 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)
If it works out one tenth as good as the Trump presidency,
I'll be over the moon.
Couldn't possibly be /that/ good. That's what I'd call tectonic. :-)
Basil Jet
2020-01-31 16:13:40 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)
If it works out one tenth as good as the Trump presidency,
I'll be over the moon.
Couldn't possibly be /that/ good.  That's what I'd call tectonic. :-)
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 16:47:59 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)
If it works out one tenth as good as the Trump presidency,
I'll be over the moon.
Couldn't possibly be /that/ good.  That's what I'd call tectonic. :-)
https://s19.directupload.net/images/200131/j6wxrqmj.jpg
:-) Are you planning a celebration this evening?
Basil Jet
2020-01-31 22:39:37 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I hope you get everything you were expecting :-)
If it works out one tenth as good as the Trump presidency,
I'll be over the moon.
Couldn't possibly be /that/ good.  That's what I'd call tectonic. :-)
https://s19.directupload.net/images/200131/j6wxrqmj.jpg
:-) Are you planning a celebration this evening?
I'm not well enough to go out, but I'm rewatching this.

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Omega
2020-01-31 11:27:01 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And a special salute to those Brexiteers amongst us who never wavered.

Ironically we started the week with Holocaust Day, also my birthday and
finish the week, Happy Brexit Day or more appropriately VE2 Day. [Yes, I
know I have said that already!]

Salute.

omega
The Todal
2020-01-31 17:34:24 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And a special salute to those Brexiteers amongst us who never wavered.
Amen to that. I think we all have a special salute to those folk.
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Ironically we started the week with Holocaust Day, also my birthday and
finish the week, Happy Brexit Day or more appropriately VE2 Day. [Yes, I
know I have said that already!]
Salute.
Salute? You're a Frankie Howerd "Up Pompei" fan, then?

In the Times, Philip Collins has stopped mocking Jeremy Corbyn for a
bit, so that he can deliver this attack on Brexit.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/brexit-liberation-day-is-self-serving-fantasy-gsrsfkmw0


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In the United States it is March 3, it is May 8 in the Czech Republic
and July 4 in Rwanda. In Turkey it is celebrated on August 30 and the
following day by the Lithuanians. In Bangladesh it is December 16.
National liberation day in these nations commemorates, respectively, the
emancipation of slaves in Charlottesville, Virginia, liberation from
Nazi Germany, the deposing of a genocidal tyrant, the end of the Turkish
War of Independence, the withdrawal of the Russian army after half a
century of occupation and the creation of a brand new nation out of
Pakistan. None of these days of national liberation describe the
voluntary departure of a sovereign democracy from a voluntary alignment
of its rules regarding trade in goods and services.

Much the worst thing about the politicians and pundits who led the
charge for Brexit is how susceptible they are to rank stupidity. I am
not saying there are no reasons at all to wish to the leave the European
Union; I am merely saying that the desire to be free is not one of them.
The implication, that Britain has been in servitude since 1973, would be
offensive to those who have endured genuine suffering if it were not so
manifestly absurd.

Brexit has been a pathetic spectacle which has encouraged and stoked the
worst in British politics. It will be a pleasure to see the back of it.
That much, at least, is a trivial kind of liberation.
Omega
2020-01-31 17:46:39 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And a special salute to those Brexiteers amongst us who never wavered.
Amen to that. I think we all have a special salute to those folk.
Oh that salute?

:o)

omega
John
2020-01-31 11:33:26 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
Farmer Giles
2020-01-31 12:16:58 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
Roger
2020-01-31 12:23:12 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
To be fair the EEC went little further than a enhanced Trade Deal.

The really criminal act took place with the Lisbon treaty, which was a proxy for the European Constitution because the real constitution would never have got through the necessary referendum stage.

Oddly, the Lib Dems were the most vociferous protestors saying that a referendum was essential for ratifying a treaty whereby the UK effectively surrended its nationality. How times have changed....
True Blue
2020-01-31 12:45:50 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
To be fair the EEC went little further than a enhanced Trade Deal.
The really criminal act took place with the Lisbon treaty, which was a proxy for the European Constitution because the real constitution would never have got through the necessary referendum stage.
The Lisbon Treaty has more "Europe" in it, than the Constitution!

The European Coal and Steel Community was an acceptable title for the "European Political Community", membership of which was rejected by the French Assembly because its title was a little too revealing of future intentions.

Both examples perfectly illustrate the smoke 'n' mirrors modus of the "project".
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Oddly, the Lib Dems were the most vociferous protestors saying that a referendum was essential for ratifying a treaty whereby the UK effectively surrended its nationality. How times have changed....
Farmer Giles
2020-01-31 12:53:57 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
To be fair the EEC went little further than a enhanced Trade Deal.
The really criminal act took place with the Lisbon treaty, which was a proxy for the European Constitution because the real constitution would never have got through the necessary referendum stage.
Oddly, the Lib Dems were the most vociferous protestors saying that a referendum was essential for ratifying a treaty whereby the UK effectively surrended its nationality. How times have changed....
It never was, nor intended to be, just an 'enhanced trade deal'. I have
a book written by Enoch Powell - I met the great man in 1975 - in 1971
and he spells out quite clearly the long-term intentions of economic and
political unity.

Enoch Powell apart, the people of this country were lied to repeatedly -
particularly by that traitor Edward Heath.
True Blue
2020-01-31 14:37:21 UTC
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It never was, nor intended to be, just an 'enhanced trade deal'. I have
a book written by Enoch Powell - I met the great man in 1975 - in 1971
and he spells out quite clearly the long-term intentions of economic and
political unity.
Enoch Powell apart, the people of this country were lied to repeatedly -
particularly by that traitor Edward Heath.
If Heath were alive today, he would be 103. I bitterly regret him not being around to witness this day.

Powell's prescience was astounding. He was of a mere handful at that time who knew the truth. Peter Shore was another.
Incubus
2020-01-31 14:46:55 UTC
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It never was, nor intended to be, just an 'enhanced trade deal'. I have
a book written by Enoch Powell - I met the great man in 1975 - in 1971
and he spells out quite clearly the long-term intentions of economic and
political unity.
Enoch Powell apart, the people of this country were lied to repeatedly -
particularly by that traitor Edward Heath.
If Heath were alive today, he would be 103. I bitterly regret him not being around to witness this day.
Powell's prescience was astounding. He was of a mere handful at that time who knew the truth. Peter Shore was another.
Was it prescience on his part or just absolute dishonesty and lack of respect
for the public on the part of the majority of MPs? I understand that the White
Paper that was discussed in government around 1971 made it clear what the
ultimate aims of the European Project were and advised that such details be
withheld from the public because they feared a backlash. On that basis, Mr
Powell's rarity is his integrity.
Farmer Giles
2020-01-31 15:18:59 UTC
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It never was, nor intended to be, just an 'enhanced trade deal'. I have
a book written by Enoch Powell - I met the great man in 1975 - in 1971
and he spells out quite clearly the long-term intentions of economic and
political unity.
Enoch Powell apart, the people of this country were lied to repeatedly -
particularly by that traitor Edward Heath.
If Heath were alive today, he would be 103. I bitterly regret him not being around to witness this day.
Powell's prescience was astounding. He was of a mere handful at that time who knew the truth. Peter Shore was another.
Was it prescience on his part or just absolute dishonesty and lack of respect
for the public on the part of the majority of MPs? I understand that the White
Paper that was discussed in government around 1971 made it clear what the
ultimate aims of the European Project were and advised that such details be
withheld from the public because they feared a backlash. On that basis, Mr
Powell's rarity is his integrity.
Indeed it was. Yes, it was not so much prescience as honesty and
patriotism.

Many politicians knew the real aims of those behind the 'European
project', but simply chose not to tell the truth about it.

Many, particularly over the channel, were more open about it. Enoch said
this in a speech in Tamworth in 1970: 'Six months ago I quoted the then
head of the E.E.C. Commission when he predicted that the Community would
have a common currency and a common parliament elected on universal
suffrage before 1980.' He also went on to say that, 'In the last
fortnight the countries of the Six have not only adopted the target of a
common currency before 1980 but have agreed that, as from now, "whatever
the IMF may decide on greater flexibility for exchange rates, the Six
will not accept any widening of the present permitted margins of
fluctuation in dealings between their own currencies". This was rightly
described as "the first step towards creating a common currency" '.

Therefore, the real truth was spelled out well before 1975. So can
please have no more of this - 'it was only a free-market arrangement',
etc, etc. The schemes of those behind the 'Project' were always obvious
to those who took the trouble to look.

It's the same now with mass immigration, etc. Same people, same game and
same objective.
John
2020-01-31 12:47:35 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch
Powell described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he
foresaw the mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he
was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
This is what I voted NO to:

The United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum was a public
vote that took place on 5 June 1975, on whether the United Kingdom should
remain a member of the European Communities which was principally the
European Economic Community (the Common Market) as it was known at the
time.
Farmer Giles
2020-01-31 12:57:58 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch
Powell described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he
foresaw the mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he
was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
The United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum was a public
vote that took place on 5 June 1975, on whether the United Kingdom should
remain a member of the European Communities which was principally the
European Economic Community (the Common Market) as it was known at the
time.
That's right we voted on whether we wished to 'remain' in the Common
Market (I voted NO too) - not to join, because we weren't asked about
that. Ted Heath's 1970 Manifesto on possible membership said only this:
'To negotiate, no more no less'.
John
2020-01-31 17:31:25 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch
Powell described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he
foresaw the mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he
was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was
no vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years
after we had been taken in without being asked.
The United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum was a
public vote that took place on 5 June 1975, on whether the United
Kingdom should remain a member of the European Communities which was
principally the European Economic Community (the Common Market) as it
was known at the time.
That's right we voted on whether we wished to 'remain' in the Common
Market (I voted NO too) - not to join, because we weren't asked about
'To negotiate, no more no less'.
I went to a meeting chaired by Enoch Powell during his tour of the North
West (1971ish)and we had an opportunity to add our names to a document
showing support for stopping immigration, because he thought it would
adversely impact our public services and the country would lose it's
British character. He was particularly concerned with their children being
born here.
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 06:28:54 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch
Powell described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he
foresaw the mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he
was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was
no vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years
after we had been taken in without being asked.
The United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum was a
public vote that took place on 5 June 1975, on whether the United
Kingdom should remain a member of the European Communities which was
principally the European Economic Community (the Common Market) as it
was known at the time.
That's right we voted on whether we wished to 'remain' in the Common
Market (I voted NO too) - not to join, because we weren't asked about
'To negotiate, no more no less'.
I went to a meeting chaired by Enoch Powell during his tour of the North
West (1971ish)and we had an opportunity to add our names to a document
showing support for stopping immigration, because he thought it would
adversely impact our public services and the country would lose it's
British character. He was particularly concerned with their children being
born here.
I was a constituent of his for a short time in the 1960s, he was a very
great man and strongly supported by the majority in Wolverhampton.

What most people couldn't understand at the time was why the local
newspaper - the Express & Star - failed to support him anywhere near as
much as their readers did. Now many of us know what the media is all
about, and are aware of the agenda of those that control it, it isn't
that difficult to work out.
abelard
2020-01-31 23:23:44 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
Yes, and by 1975 there was so little hard evidence to show how we had
benefitted in those 2 years - many could not make a reasoned judgement.
britain had been reduced to the sick man of europe by
socialism at the time we joined
we are now able to compete again as virtually all the attlee
destruction has now been reversed...

as has the economic destruction of bliar et al
britain's dependence on europe is a choice...

socialism effects dependency
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Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 06:27:50 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
Yes, and by 1975 there was so little hard evidence to show how we had
benefitted in those 2 years - many could not make a reasoned judgement.
britain had been reduced to the sick man of europe by
socialism at the time we joined
we are now able to compete again as virtually all the attlee
destruction has now been reversed...
Shut up, you idiot. You haven't got a clue whay you're talking about -
as usual.
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as has the economic destruction of bliar et al
britain's dependence on europe is a choice...
socialism effects dependency
Is that why a parasite like you has run off to socialist France, had you
run out of blood to suck here?
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 09:42:06 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
I voted not to join the Common Market, but nobody listened. Enoch Powell
described very clearly what would happen if we joined and he foresaw the
mutation that was to become the Maastricht treaty and he was correct.
I would endorse, and echo, every word of that - except that there was no
vote to 'join' the Common Market. The vote in 1975 was two years after
we had been taken in without being asked.
Yes, and by 1975 there was so little hard evidence to show how we had
benefitted in those 2 years - many could not make a reasoned judgement.
britain had been reduced to the sick man of europe by
socialism at the time we joined
we are now able to compete again as virtually all the attlee
destruction has now been reversed...
Is that why the government has just taken Northern Rail back into public
ownership?
Post by abelard
as has the economic destruction of bliar et al
britain's dependence on europe is a choice...
socialism effects dependency
And you seem to be far more dependent on the state than most people.
Basil Jet
2020-01-31 12:22:39 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
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Happy Brexit Day. :-)
What's in the deal that we've signed? Does it still have the clause that
says an EU army can invade us anytime they like and we're not allowed to
defend ourselves?
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 12:24:53 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
What's in the deal that we've signed? Does it still have the clause that
says an EU army can invade us anytime they like and we're not allowed to
defend ourselves?
Over NATO's dead body! :-)
True Blue
2020-01-31 12:25:09 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
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Happy Brexit Day. :-)
Got my fireworks from JTF this morning.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 14:47:04 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And to thee and thine.
It's a great day to-day. We are officially leaving the EU (although the
shackles won't be completely off until December 2020 at the earliest) and I
received via Hermes a perfectly working 1991 Sony Discman in mint condition. 8
times oversampling, digital filter, Digital Bass Boost (TM), resume function
and a nice audio level display on the LCD. I even have the power adapter from
a similar model I got a refund for and wasn't asked to return :)
We had an accessory whereby you could stick a pretend audio cassette (a
transducer, I guess) in a car cassette player, and use it to get the
Discman to play through the cassette player read head. Exciting times :-)
Incubus
2020-01-31 14:55:00 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And to thee and thine.
It's a great day to-day. We are officially leaving the EU (although the
shackles won't be completely off until December 2020 at the earliest) and I
received via Hermes a perfectly working 1991 Sony Discman in mint condition. 8
times oversampling, digital filter, Digital Bass Boost (TM), resume function
and a nice audio level display on the LCD. I even have the power adapter from
a similar model I got a refund for and wasn't asked to return :)
We had an accessory whereby you could stick a pretend audio cassette (a
transducer, I guess) in a car cassette player, and use it to get the
Discman to play through the cassette player read head. Exciting times :-)
I have at least one of those. It came with the boxed car kit.

Some of the Discmans intended for car use (they usually had a K suffice rather
than the -CK suffice for a standard Discman with cat kit) are really nice.

Sony's numbering system seems to have been something like D-140 for the basic
model (no charger), D-141 for the basic model with charger and other
accessories, D-142-CK for the car kit model and D-143 for the model with
rechargeable battery pack. Identical electronics but different model number on
the lid.

The best ones were made in the late '80s, if you can find a working model. Big
and bulky but they had the best headphone amps.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-01-31 14:56:20 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
And to thee and thine.
It's a great day to-day. We are officially leaving the EU (although the
shackles won't be completely off until December 2020 at the earliest) and I
received via Hermes a perfectly working 1991 Sony Discman in mint condition. 8
times oversampling, digital filter, Digital Bass Boost (TM), resume function
and a nice audio level display on the LCD. I even have the power adapter from
a similar model I got a refund for and wasn't asked to return :)
We had an accessory whereby you could stick a pretend audio cassette (a
transducer, I guess) in a car cassette player, and use it to get the
Discman to play through the cassette player read head. Exciting times :-)
I have at least one of those. It came with the boxed car kit.
Some of the Discmans intended for car use (they usually had a K suffice rather
than the -CK suffice for a standard Discman with cat kit) are really nice.
Sony's numbering system seems to have been something like D-140 for the basic
model (no charger), D-141 for the basic model with charger and other
accessories, D-142-CK for the car kit model and D-143 for the model with
rechargeable battery pack. Identical electronics but different model number on
the lid.
The best ones were made in the late '80s, if you can find a working model. Big
and bulky but they had the best headphone amps.
I must bow to your superior knowledge :-)
nightjar
2020-01-31 16:53:00 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
The only good thing to come out of that is that Nigel won't be able to
embarrass the UK with more childish stunts in the EU Parliament.
--
Colin Bignell
The Todal
2020-01-31 17:20:08 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you will
enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.


Basil Jet
2020-01-31 23:53:02 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you will
enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
--
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Epic45 - 2004 - Against The Pull Of Autumn
The Todal
2020-02-01 09:12:28 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 09:44:17 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
The Todal
2020-02-01 10:57:45 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
But in the short term (next 11 months at least) the situation from a
leaver's perspective is actually *worse* than before. So for all the
celebrations last night, we're still paying in, still adhering to all
the regulations, yet not actually having any say in them!
A price well worth paying I'm sure you'll say, but I do smile at the
irony....
I've had a campaign message by email from Sadiq Khan. He's the Mayor of
London, you know.

Subject: Wipe the smile off their faces
Message: Today Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson won. Britain will
formally leave the European Union at 11pm tonight. But it's not over.
Together we can fight back. We're planning to launch digital advertising
to get our message of hope out to millions of voters, but we need to
raise £10,000 by the end of the week to make it happen.

Will you help us?
Yes, I'll chip in £10
Yes, I'll chip in £28
Yes, I'll chip in £45
With your help, we can wipe the smile off their faces on 7 May.

unquote

So he's implying that by re-electing him as London Mayor we "fight back"
against Brexit.

Despite being a Labour Party member, I have no intention of campaigning
for Mr Khan, and I'm not sure I'll even vote for him. This sort of
dishonest political advertising now seems to be widespread. It assumes
that party members who receive these emails are idiots.
The Todal
2020-02-01 11:01:25 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.

I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 12:06:27 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade.  That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them.  Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Or Stilton, or Cheshire, or Caerphilly, or Wensleyale, or Shropshire
Blue (actually at least 20 varieties of blue cheese), or Lancashire -
etc, etc, etc.

A real break from the EU will improve lives tremendously - particularly
those in fishing and agriculture, plus all the others that we can now
support that we couldn't before. There is also the little matter of not
having to send them millions of pounds every day.

However, whether we shall get that 'real break' is another matter. I
suspect that too many people like you will have been carefully put into
place to enable the process to be undermined.

Enemies without are one thing, enemies within quite another.
The Todal
2020-02-01 18:19:02 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade.  That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them.  Er, does it mean that prices will go
up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Or Stilton, or Cheshire, or Caerphilly, or Wensleyale, or Shropshire
Blue (actually at least 20 varieties of blue cheese), or Lancashire -
etc, etc, etc.
In my local branches of Tesco and Sainsburys, and M&S, it's mostly
different types of cheddar. Maybe it's a problem local to me. If I go to
a farmers' market or a French market, I see lots of cheeses that never
make an appearance in the supermarket.
Post by Farmer Giles
A real break from the EU will improve lives tremendously - particularly
those in fishing and agriculture, plus all the others that we can now
support that we couldn't before. There is also the little matter of not
having to send them millions of pounds every day.
However, whether we shall get that 'real break' is another matter. I
suspect that too many people like you will have been carefully put into
place to enable the process to be undermined.
Too many people like me? You mean, people who politely enquire where we
can see the benefits of having left the EU?

I suppose that counts as "talking down Britain". But I call it looking
beyond the propaganda. And by the same token there will be people
unfairly blaming Brexit for supply and delivery problems that actually
have nothing to do with Brexit and we need people who can give an
objective analysis.
Post by Farmer Giles
Enemies without are one thing, enemies within quite another.
If you are a real farmer, are you quietly confident that the farming
community will not suffer any economic hardships as a direct result of
Brexit? Or is it treachery to speak of such things?
Joe
2020-02-01 19:09:46 UTC
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Post by The Todal
In my local branches of Tesco and Sainsburys, and M&S, it's mostly
different types of cheddar. Maybe it's a problem local to me. If I go
to a farmers' market or a French market, I see lots of cheeses that
never make an appearance in the supermarket.
There seems to be a fair range in my local Tesco and Sainsbury.
Obviously not what you'd find in a specialist cheese shop (there used
to be an amazing one in Ludlow) but enough. Indeed, my local Tesco was
today selling off Stilton cheaply, as they had clearly overstocked a
bit. I like that kind of cheese past its use-by date anyway. It's too
dry and crumbly before then.

The only one I eat and find difficult to get is Blue Shropshire, which
seems to be sold only by Waitrose now. And yes, I do know that despite
its name, it is of Scottish origin.
--
Joe
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 19:20:57 UTC
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Post by The Todal
In my local branches of Tesco and Sainsburys, and M&S, it's mostly
different types of cheddar. Maybe it's a problem local to me. If I go
to a farmers' market or a French market, I see lots of cheeses that
never make an appearance in the supermarket.
There seems to be a fair range in my local Tesco and Sainsbury.
Obviously not what you'd find in a specialist cheese shop (there used
to be an amazing one in Ludlow) but enough. Indeed, my local Tesco was
today selling off Stilton cheaply, as they had clearly overstocked a
bit. I like that kind of cheese past its use-by date anyway. It's too
dry and crumbly before then.
The only one I eat and find difficult to get is Blue Shropshire, which
seems to be sold only by Waitrose now. And yes, I do know that despite
its name, it is of Scottish origin.
There is still a good cheese shop in Ludlow, and a regular stall selling
many different varieties of cheese at the Castle Square market (I live
near Ludlow).

'Shropshire Blue' was developed in Scotland I believe, by someone who
trained at making Stilton in Leiestershire, but I think it is now made
exclusively in Shropshire and the Welsh Marches (you can get it in
Morrisons sometimes).
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 19:10:31 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade.  That's the only way you're likely
to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from
EU countries. That will show them.  Er, does it mean that prices will
go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Or Stilton, or Cheshire, or Caerphilly, or Wensleyale, or Shropshire
Blue (actually at least 20 varieties of blue cheese), or Lancashire -
etc, etc, etc.
In my local branches of Tesco and Sainsburys, and M&S, it's mostly
different types of cheddar. Maybe it's a problem local to me. If I go to
a farmers' market or a French market, I see lots of cheeses that never
make an appearance in the supermarket.
Post by Farmer Giles
A real break from the EU will improve lives tremendously -
particularly those in fishing and agriculture, plus all the others
that we can now support that we couldn't before. There is also the
little matter of not having to send them millions of pounds every day.
However, whether we shall get that 'real break' is another matter. I
suspect that too many people like you will have been carefully put
into place to enable the process to be undermined.
Too many people like me? You mean, people who politely enquire where we
can see the benefits of having left the EU?
I suppose that counts as "talking down Britain". But I call it looking
beyond the propaganda. And by the same token there will be people
unfairly blaming Brexit for supply and delivery problems that actually
have nothing to do with Brexit and we need people who can give an
objective analysis.
Post by Farmer Giles
Enemies without are one thing, enemies within quite another.
If you are a real farmer, are you quietly confident that the farming
community will not suffer any economic hardships as a direct result of
Brexit? Or is it treachery to speak of such things?
There is no real reason for farmers to suffer any economic hardships
from leaving the EU. We produce barely 50% of the food we consume, so
just why any needs to be sold abroad is beyond me.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 12:40:09 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?

What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?

If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more British
products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as snobby/superior.

Does anyone *really* need to eat ‘fresh’ (which is debatable given the
distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft summer fruits in
Dec/Jan/Feb?
Grikbassturder®™
2020-02-01 12:49:39 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more British
products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat ‘fresh’ (which is debatable given the
distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft summer fruits in
Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 13:26:02 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Yes, and I forgot the varieties of Stilton as well.
Post by Grikbassturder®™
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more British
products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat ‘fresh’ (which is debatable given the
distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft summer fruits in
Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 13:36:11 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more British
products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat ‘fresh’ (which is debatable given the
distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft summer fruits in
Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this country’.

I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.

What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to appear
*trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring British
apples, pears and so on.

Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone seemed
to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the tasty old
English varieties.

How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Grikbassturder®™
2020-02-01 13:50:41 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more British
products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat ‘fresh’ (which is debatable given the
distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft summer fruits in
Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this country’.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What about all the native fruit picked in the Autumn? That can easily
survive into the winter months. Surely better and more natural than
eating Jamaican mangoes in January?
Peeler
2020-02-01 17:06:16 UTC
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What about all the native fruit picked in the Autumn? That can easily
survive into the winter months. Surely better and more natural than
eating Jamaican mangoes in January?
ROTFLOL Found yet another idiot who is on your retarded level, dreckserb
Razovic?
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Pamela
2020-02-01 14:45:52 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.

"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 15:20:45 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?

I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.

The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
Pamela
2020-02-01 15:29:10 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential source of
labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
Pancho
2020-02-01 15:45:09 UTC
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No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential source of
labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
I think most Brits would happily pick fruit or clean toilets if it paid
well.
Ian Jackson
2020-02-01 16:10:33 UTC
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No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential source of
labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
I think most Brits would happily pick fruit or clean toilets if it paid
well.
And hopefully in that order!
--
Ian
Roger
2020-02-01 16:44:47 UTC
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Post by Pamela
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential source of
labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
I think most Brits would happily pick fruit or clean toilets if it paid
well.
I have never understood why people think there will be a shortage.

In other new there are people paying thousands and risking their lives to cross the channel illegally.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 18:25:18 UTC
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No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential source of
labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
I think most Brits would happily pick fruit or clean toilets if it paid
well.
The problem in the UK, is that the old class system is so entrenched that no
toilet cleaner will ever be paid well.

As the idiot Rowing will constantly point out - toilet cleaners are ten a
penny. Senior Managers (who can make vast losses and still get a £1m+ yearly
bonus, raid the pension funds to boost profits, and scarper with all the cash
weeks before calling in the receivers) are extremely qualified people who
need to be paid 250 times what the cleaner gets.
Pamela
2020-02-01 19:32:37 UTC
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Post by Pamela
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential
source of labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
I think most Brits would happily pick fruit or clean toilets if it paid
well.
Many Brits wouldn't be happy doing that at the market rate.
WWWWWWWWDWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
2020-02-01 17:25:26 UTC
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Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume
more British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves)
soft summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of
eating food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in
January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in
winter months when nothing much fruits in this country which is
edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is
to appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but
ignoring British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because
everyone seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than
some of the tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens
EU fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily
be changed.
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential
source of labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
Brits aren't wanted because they can't be exploited.
--
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Joe
2020-02-01 18:55:44 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 15:29:10 GMT
Post by Pamela
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential
source of labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
Then just maybe the British will need to start paying a realistic price
for fruit and vegetables. They're (mostly) willing to pay a hell of a
lot for a single cup of coffee.
--
Joe
Pamela
2020-02-01 19:34:21 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 15:29:10 GMT
Post by Pamela
No one is proposing any such changes to the benefits system. The
impementation of Brexit will bring about the loss of an essential
source of labour for the tough jobs Brits no longer wish to do.
Then just maybe the British will need to start paying a realistic price
for fruit and vegetables. They're (mostly) willing to pay a hell of a
lot for a single cup of coffee.
One of the lures of Brexit was much cheaper food to be bought at world trade
prices.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 18:13:54 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here
this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can
produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
I never picked apples, but I did pick loadsa potatoes. That was hard work and
I only got a shilling a bag.

I assume a bag was 1cwt in those days, but I can’t remember.
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 19:07:45 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
I never picked apples, but I did pick loadsa potatoes. That was hard work and
I only got a shilling a bag.
I assume a bag was 1cwt in those days, but I can’t remember.
Who were you working for, Ebenezer Scrooge? As a youngster growing up in
a farming area I picked all kinds of fruit during the weekends and
holidays - and did potato 'picking up' - and we made good pocket money
out of it. It was the main second income for many of the ladies in the
village in those days.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 21:08:13 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here
this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can
produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
I never picked apples, but I did pick loadsa potatoes. That was hard work and
I only got a shilling a bag.
I assume a bag was 1cwt in those days, but I can’t remember.
Who were you working for, Ebenezer Scrooge?
ST Beltons of East Heckington.

Not known for their generosity, no.

Maybe they were only half hundredweight bags. I can’t remember.
Post by Farmer Giles
As a youngster growing up in
a farming area I picked all kinds of fruit during the weekends and
holidays - and did potato 'picking up' - and we made good pocket money
out of it. It was the main second income for many of the ladies in the
village in those days.
Oh yes, there were lots of women there as well, and rather ‘coincidentally'
photo reconnaissance aircraft from the RAF were regular low altitude visitors
as the women worked in bras and shorts during hot weather.
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 21:14:55 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here
this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
I never picked apples, but I did pick loadsa potatoes. That was hard work and
I only got a shilling a bag.
I assume a bag was 1cwt in those days, but I can’t remember.
Who were you working for, Ebenezer Scrooge?
ST Beltons of East Heckington.
Not known for their generosity, no.
Maybe they were only half hundredweight bags. I can’t remember.
Post by Farmer Giles
As a youngster growing up in
a farming area I picked all kinds of fruit during the weekends and
holidays - and did potato 'picking up' - and we made good pocket money
out of it. It was the main second income for many of the ladies in the
village in those days.
Oh yes, there were lots of women there as well, and rather ‘coincidentally'
photo reconnaissance aircraft from the RAF were regular low altitude visitors
as the women worked in bras and shorts during hot weather.
Having worked with RAF photographers I can believe that. :-)
Grikbassturder®™
2020-02-01 18:18:08 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily be
changed.
If they were genuinely happy to be doing it...they'd do it. The fact
is that they're lazy, indolent and workshy...and would rather be in
the pub or the betting shop.
Joe
2020-02-01 18:52:56 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
Post by Pamela
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens
EU fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily
be changed.
It used to be a student job, and before that, a schoolchild job. It's
why the school/university summer holiday is so long.
--
Joe
Farmer Giles
2020-02-01 19:26:26 UTC
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:20:45 +0000
Post by Farmer Giles
Post by Pamela
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens
EU fruit picker shortage"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
That's right - we never picked apples before we joined the Common
Market/EU, did we?
I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that we picked a damned
sight more fruit in the past than we do now, and it was almost all
picked by British workers.
The benefit system that we have now has been specially designed to
prevent those at the lower end of the employment spectrum from doing
that sort of work - which many would be happy to do. That can easily
be changed.
It used to be a student job, and before that, a schoolchild job. It's
why the school/university summer holiday is so long.
In rural Worcestershire, where I grew up, it certainly wasn't (and a lot
of fruit was grown there in the past). Many of us did pick fruit during
the school holidays in summer, but we were far from being the main
pickers. Fruit picking was donealmost entirely by the ladies of the
villages, together with some 'travellers'.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 15:22:58 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I
hope you will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart
Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here
this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're
likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc
from EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that
prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating
nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume more
British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves) soft
summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because everyone
seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than some of the
tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
If we had real capitalist values, the wages for picking fruit would rise in
order to attract UK workers.

It would be the growers’ profits that would take a hit (and that doesn’t
necessarily mean making a loss) not the fruit. Why should market forces
dictate that producers can charge what the market will bear, but not pay
wages with the same rules of supply and demand?

The problem with many minimum wage EU migrant jobs in the UK, is that they
have only been advertised in E Europe, and that was followed by the companies
concerned saying no British workers applied for jobs so they assumed they
couldn’t be bothered.

How can British workers apply for jobs which they didn’t know existed?
Post by Pamela
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
Pamela
2020-02-01 15:33:36 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers
are coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in
victory, I hope you will enjoy this little comedy
routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup
and calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit
here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group
any news about how our departure from the EU has improved the
lives of our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way
you're likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to
co-operate in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of
cheese, wine etc from EU countries. That will show them. Er,
does it mean that prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or
will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume
more British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves)
soft summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of
eating food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in
January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in
winter months when nothing much fruits in this country which is
edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because
everyone seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than
some of the tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
If we had real capitalist values, the wages for picking fruit would rise
in order to attract UK workers.
It would be the growers’ profits that would take a hit (and that
doesn’t necessarily mean making a loss) not the fruit. Why should
market forces dictate that producers can charge what the market will
bear, but not pay wages with the same rules of supply and demand?
I think you will find that profits are squeezed as much as they can be at
the moment. The only outcome of paying more for farm labour is higher
shop prices for British produce. That isn't what we were promised.
Post by Keema's Nan
The problem with many minimum wage EU migrant jobs in the UK, is that
they have only been advertised in E Europe,
Do you have an example where this occurred?
Post by Keema's Nan
and that was followed by the
companies concerned saying no British workers applied for jobs so they
assumed they couldn’t be bothered.
How can British workers apply for jobs which they didn’t know existed?
Post by Pamela
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
The promise of both cheaper cost of food and higher wages once immigrants
have left is "having your cake and eating it".

The EU negotiating team explained that wouldn't work, but we had to find
out for ourselves.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 18:21:09 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers
are coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in
victory, I hope you will enjoy this little comedy
routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup
and calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit
here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group
any news about how our departure from the EU has improved the
lives of our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way
you're likely to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to
co-operate in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of
cheese, wine etc from EU countries. That will show them. Er,
does it mean that prices will go up in our supermarkets? Or
will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we actually
can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and consume
more British products, rather than seeing foreign stuff as
snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves)
soft summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of
eating food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in
January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in
winter months when nothing much fruits in this country which is
edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is to
appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but ignoring
British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because
everyone seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather than
some of the tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens EU
fruit picker shortage"
If we had real capitalist values, the wages for picking fruit would rise
in order to attract UK workers.
It would be the growers’ profits that would take a hit (and that
doesn’t necessarily mean making a loss) not the fruit. Why should
market forces dictate that producers can charge what the market will
bear, but not pay wages with the same rules of supply and demand?
I think you will find that profits are squeezed as much as they can be at
the moment. The only outcome of paying more for farm labour is higher
shop prices for British produce. That isn't what we were promised.
I don’t think you were promised anything about prices for British produce.
Post by Pamela
Post by Keema's Nan
The problem with many minimum wage EU migrant jobs in the UK, is that
they have only been advertised in E Europe,
Do you have an example where this occurred?
Yes, there was a whole TV programme on it last year. It was a large operation
in the Midlands somewhere (Rugby springs to mind, but I am not sure why).
When the interviewer asked company management about it they declined to
comment and refused to be interviewed any further.

The TV people had even filmed the adverts in Poland, Latvia and Lithuania and
asked the local UK Jobcentre if they had had any vacancy notices, but they
said no.

I cannot remember the name of the programme.
Post by Pamela
Post by Keema's Nan
and that was followed by the
companies concerned saying no British workers applied for jobs so they
assumed they couldn’t be bothered.
How can British workers apply for jobs which they didn’t know existed?
Post by Pamela
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-
picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html
The promise of both cheaper cost of food and higher wages once immigrants
have left is "having your cake and eating it".
The EU negotiating team explained that wouldn't work, but we had to find
out for ourselves.
It would work, but the producers would have to sell direct, and cut out the
supermarkets.
Pamela
2020-02-01 19:31:43 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by The Todal
Post by Basil Jet
Post by The Todal
Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party
poppers are coming off stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in
victory, I hope you will enjoy this little comedy
routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an
outgroup and calling them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to
everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can
sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to
be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this
group any news about how our departure from the EU has
improved the lives of our citizens or boosted our trade.
That's the only way you're likely to convinced all those
awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to
co-operate in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of
cheese, wine etc from EU countries. That will show them.
Er, does it mean that prices will go up in our
supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby,
Lancashire, Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
Don't forget Cornish Yarg!
Post by Keema's Nan
If prices of imported foodstuffs (those foodstuffs we
actually can produce in
this country) rise, then that is great.
It might make the selfish shopper actually purchase and
consume more British products, rather than seeing foreign
stuff as snobby/superior.
Does anyone *really* need to eat "fresh" (which is debatable
given the distance they have travelled to get to the shelves)
soft summer fruits in Dec/Jan/Feb?
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of
eating food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in
January???
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this
country.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in
winter months when nothing much fruits in this country which is
edible.
What seems to have become a trend with the younger generation is
to appear *trendy* when eating all manner of imported food, but
ignoring British apples, pears and so on.
Thousands of acres of British orchards were destroyed because
everyone seemed to want tasteless EU apples and pears, rather
than some of the tasty old English varieties.
How many Allington or Sturmer Pippins has anyone had?
Soon there will be no-one to pick them.
"Millions of apples left to rot in UK as Brexit uncertainty worsens
EU fruit picker shortage"
If we had real capitalist values, the wages for picking fruit would
rise in order to attract UK workers.
It would be the growers’ profits that would take a hit (and that
doesn’t necessarily mean making a loss) not the fruit. Why should
market forces dictate that producers can charge what the market will
bear, but not pay wages with the same rules of supply and demand?
I think you will find that profits are squeezed as much as they can be
at the moment. The only outcome of paying more for farm labour is
higher shop prices for British produce. That isn't what we were
promised.
I don’t think you were promised anything about prices for British
produce.
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Post by Keema's Nan
The problem with many minimum wage EU migrant jobs in the UK, is that
they have only been advertised in E Europe,
Do you have an example where this occurred?
Yes, there was a whole TV programme on it last year. It was a large
operation in the Midlands somewhere (Rugby springs to mind, but I am not
sure why). When the interviewer asked company management about it they
declined to comment and refused to be interviewed any further.
The TV people had even filmed the adverts in Poland, Latvia and
Lithuania and asked the local UK Jobcentre if they had had any vacancy
notices, but they said no.
I cannot remember the name of the programme.
An investigative tv programme suggests they were looking into a breach of
the rules, which makes it an exception rather than the norm.
Joe
2020-02-01 19:00:56 UTC
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I think you will find that profits are squeezed as much as they can
be at the moment. The only outcome of paying more for farm labour is
higher shop prices for British produce. That isn't what we were
promised.
So who is the person you will be suing for breach of contract? You'll
be able to quote the exact wording of this promise and name the person
who made it, I assume.
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2020-02-01 17:04:58 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this country’.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
You don't even have a problem with sucking off the filthiest, most perverted
and psychopathic troll that ever infested these groups, you troll-feeding
senile ASSHOLE!
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 18:28:25 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
I did mention 'those foodstuffs we can actually produce in this country’.
I have no problem with imports of tropical fruits, especially in winter
months when nothing much fruits in this country which is edible.
You don't even have a problem with sucking off the filthiest, most perverted
and psychopathic troll that ever infested these groups, you troll-feeding
senile ASSHOLE!
I can’t help it if you are jealous.
Ian Jackson
2020-02-01 14:22:11 UTC
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Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
Regardless of the season, you should definitely avoid any out-of-EU-spec
straight bananas.
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Col
2020-02-01 15:52:01 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 12:40:09 +0000, Keema's Nan
Indeed. Many intestinal and other disorders are the result of eating
food which is non-native and out of season. Bananas in January???
Please tell me when bananas are *in* season in this country.
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Ian Jackson
2020-02-01 14:18:48 UTC
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Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
If there's something we produce that is similar to St Agur, I reckon I
could live without EU cheese.
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2020-02-01 14:21:23 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
If there's something we produce that is similar to St Agur, I reckon I
could live without EU cheese.
blue stilton is comparable and better(less bitter)
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kat
2020-02-01 20:54:09 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
Post by Keema's Nan
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
If there's something we produce that is similar to St Agur, I reckon I
could live without EU cheese.
blue stilton is comparable and better(less bitter)
Not Waitrose's St Agur. I know what you mean, but their St Agur is softer and
sweeter.
Oxford Blue apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Blue_(cheese)
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2020-02-01 21:22:51 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
Post by Keema's Nan
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
If there's something we produce that is similar to St Agur, I reckon I
could live without EU cheese.
blue stilton is comparable and better(less bitter)
Not Waitrose's St Agur. I know what you mean, but their St Agur is
softer and sweeter.
Oxford Blue apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Blue_(cheese)
Thanks for the info. Wikipedia says:
"It has been described as a "French-style English blue" that can be used
"as an alternative" to Stilton cheese", and as similar to Dolcelatte and
St Agur cheeses, with a less strong flavour than Roquefort or Stilton."

I'm familiar with Stilton (of course), and I used to eat Dolcellate - so
I should like Oxford Blue.
<https://www.waitrose.com/content/waitrose/en/home/recipes/food_glossary/
cheese__soft.html#oxford>
"A creamy full fat soft vegetarian cheese which is well veined. It is
made from pasteurised milk and has a distinctive tang of blue and an
aromatic and spicy flavour with a hint of tarragon. Oxford Blue was a
gold medal winner at the 2001 British Cheese Awards and is available
from the service counter at 45 branches of Waitrose."

My local has a delicatessen counter, so they might have some - although
I suspect it might be more expensive than off-the-shelf St Agur.
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Grikbassturder®™
2020-02-01 16:20:25 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
Post by Keema's Nan
Is Cheddar the *only* UK cheese?
What about Red Leicester, Cheshire, Wensleydale, Sage Derby, Lancashire,
Caerphilly, Stinking Bishop, etc?
If there's something we produce that is similar to St Agur, I reckon I
could live without EU cheese.
Is that one of those unpasteurised cheeses only the French get away
with producing?
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 12:42:43 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any news
about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of our
citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely to
convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate in
negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from EU
countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will go up
in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but Cheddar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_cheeses
WWWWWWWWDWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
2020-02-01 12:53:12 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
As the weeks and months go by, please please post to this group any
news about how our departure from the EU has improved the lives of
our citizens or boosted our trade. That's the only way you're likely
to convinced all those awful diehard Remainers.
I've seen a report in the Mail that if the EU refuses to co-operate
in negotiations we'll put tariffs on imports of cheese, wine etc from
EU countries. That will show them. Er, does it mean that prices will
go up in our supermarkets? Or will we all be eating nothing but
Cheddar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_cheeses

There is something for everyone in there.
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Ian Jackson
2020-02-01 14:14:06 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
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2020-02-01 14:46:22 UTC
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If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
That will come but won't be as straight forward as that. Perhaps a leave vote will require a specific majority of either the total vote or the total electorate or that only citizens over 95 will be allowed to vote provided they are accompanied by both parents.

they would never allow themselves open to the suggestion that to leave the EU by popular vote is impossible.

Remember the EU is an association of sovereign states.
Keema's Nan
2020-02-01 15:16:11 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
We were allowed to hold it because everyone thought they knew what the result
would be.
Ian Jackson
2020-02-01 16:44:24 UTC
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Post by Yellow
It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
We were allowed to hold it because everyone thought they knew what the result
would be.
What Team Remain totally failed to realise was that so many voters'
heads had been filled with alternative facts and untruths. [They are
still trotting them out today.] As a result, The Remainers totally
failed to put anything like enough effort into countering with a
presentation the truth (not just biassed propaganda, but a
point-by-point, genuine, verifiable rebuttal of at least some of the
more-popular Euromyths). Even then, there would have absolutely no
guarantee that certain voters would have been willing to be enlightened,
because as James o'Brien has found out, even when presented with the
absolutely incontrovertible facts, an awful lot of people still prefer
to believe the myths.
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2020-02-01 19:27:46 UTC
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What Team Remain totally failed to realise was that so many voters'
heads had been filled with alternative facts and untruths.
From the failing REMAIN contingent!
Nope, from ridiculous assclowns like Farage, even if he's not as much of a a
ridiculous assclown as you are, serb peasant!
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hope you
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I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and
calling them
Post by Basil Jet
cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
No fireworks here yesterday evening, but at least I can sit here this morning
and be happy in the knowledge that we no longer have to be
subservient to a
bunch of EU parasites.
If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
It was meant to sink Farage and UKIP but backfired spectacularly.
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2020-02-02 03:05:11 UTC
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If we WERE subservient, we would not have been allowed to hold a
referendum to leave.
It was meant to sink Farage and UKIP but backfired spectacularly.
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That's about the gist of it. Amusing, really.

Basil Jet
2020-02-01 17:31:11 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling
them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
It appeals to cunts.
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Basil Jet
2020-02-01 20:18:32 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling
them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
It appeals to cunts.
If Stewart Lee was in Cambodia during the killing fields he would have
made a fortune performing to the Khmer Rouge apparatchiks, and his
"jokes" would have consisted of saying how everyone who wore glasses
deserved to be killed because they were all cunts.
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The Todal
2020-02-02 00:39:50 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling
them cunts.
That's his style of humour. It doesn't appeal to everyone.
It appeals to cunts.
If Stewart Lee was in Cambodia during the killing fields he would have
made a fortune performing to the Khmer Rouge apparatchiks, and his
"jokes" would have consisted of saying how everyone who wore glasses
deserved to be killed because they were all cunts.
He satirises bigots and part of that is to pretend to be a bigot. It can
be confusing to some viewers.

The sort of people he targets are not sensible voters but the sort of
people who now display silly posters like this one. They fully deserve
to be shamed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/police-called-in-after-poster-tells-residents-of-flats-to-speak-english
Pancho
2020-02-01 13:33:36 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
stand-by.
Happy Brexit Day. :-)
In the spirit of good humour and magnanimity in victory, I hope you
will enjoy this little comedy routine from Stewart Lee.
http://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I saw no humour. I saw someone pointing at an outgroup and calling them
cunts.
Come on, it was funny, once. You know, circa 1976, Derek and Clive Live,
by Pete & Dud.
Omega
2020-01-31 23:01:44 UTC
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It has been a journey but at last those party poppers are coming off
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Happy Brexit Day. :-)
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