Discussion:
Banned adverts:- the inexorable rise of the social engineers.
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g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-14 08:48:11 UTC
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Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;

"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.

Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".

Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the men were incapable of caring for children.

Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".

In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern society.

The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.

Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could equally be applied in role reversal."


[....]


https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599

I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of today's offence culture, is truly alarming.

"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman in a care-giving role."

Three people? In an audience of millions?
Incubus
2019-08-14 10:09:26 UTC
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Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely
to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the
men were incapable of caring for children.
At least they have gone for a "harmful" stereotype of men, though. My
expectation would be that men are fair game.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include
gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread
offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive
image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern
society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical
stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell
mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could
equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it
seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers
seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous
nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of
today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they
claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman
in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a complaint. We
clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be protected from themselves.
g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-14 11:55:26 UTC
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Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely
to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the
men were incapable of caring for children.
At least they have gone for a "harmful" stereotype of men, though. My
expectation would be that men are fair game.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include
gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread
offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive
image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern
society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical
stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell
mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could
equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it
seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers
seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous
nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of
today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they
claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman
in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a complaint. We
clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be protected from themselves.
A cursory investigation into the ASA reveals a veritable myriad of panels and agencies;


"The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent advertising regulator. The ASA makes sure ads across UK media stick to the advertising rules (the Advertising Codes).

The Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) is the sister organisation of the ASA and is responsible for writing the Advertising Codes. The ASA and CAP are committed to regulating in a way that is transparent, proportionate, targeted, evidence-based, consistent and accountable."

https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/about-regulation/about-the-asa-and-cap.html

The CAP;

"The Codes are the responsibility of two industry Committees - the Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) and the Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP) and are independently administered by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).

Here you can find out more about the Committees, Executive and Panels that support their work:

Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP)

Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP)

Industry Advisory Panel

Promotional Marketing and Direct Response Panel

Advertising Advisory Committee

Online Publications Media Panel

Our Executive"

[....]

Committee of Advertising Practice

CAP writes the UK Code of Non-broadcast Advertising and Direct & Promotional Marketing (CAP Code) and helps enforce ASA rulings.

Established in 1961, the Committee and the Code marked their 50th anniversary in 2011. The existing CAP membership consists of representatives from:

Television on Demand Industry Forum
Advertising Association
Cinema Advertising Association
Direct Marketing Association
Direct Selling Association
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
Institute of Promotional Marketing
Internet Advertising Bureau
Mobile UK
News Media Association
Outsmart Out of Home
Professional Publishers Association
Proprietary Association of Great Britain
Royal Mail
Scottish Newspaper Society
Clearcast
Radiocentre
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice

The success of CAP’s regulation of non-broadcast ads encouraged Ofcom to contract-out the regulation of broadcast advertising to the ASA system. This led to the formation of a co-regulatory partnership and BCAP. BCAP writes the UK Code of Broadcast Advertising. The existing BCAP membership consists of representatives from:

Advertising Association
Sky UK Ltd
Channel 4 Television Corporation
Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd
Commercial Broadcasters Association (CoBA)
Direct Marketing Association
Electronic Retailing Association UK
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
ITV plc
Radiocentre
S4C
BT
STV"

https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/people/cap-panels-and-committees.html

Neither of the above pages has any reference to agencies like Clearcast, who are mentioned in the Sky article as being involved in the decision.

Add Ofcom to the mix and we're looking at a Byzantine monster. And seemingly unaccountable.

What's clear from these decisions and the achingly PC nature of many adverts, with their hugely disproportionate displays of mixed race couples, minorities and same-sex relationships, is that a Leftist monoculture is steering the advertising we consume.
Incubus
2019-08-14 12:43:31 UTC
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Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely
to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the
men were incapable of caring for children.
At least they have gone for a "harmful" stereotype of men, though. My
expectation would be that men are fair game.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include
gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread
offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive
image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern
society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical
stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell
mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could
equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it
seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers
seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous
nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of
today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they
claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman
in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a complaint. We
clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be protected from themselves.
A cursory investigation into the ASA reveals a veritable myriad of panels and agencies;
"The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent advertising regulator. The ASA makes sure ads across UK media stick to the advertising rules (the Advertising Codes).
The Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) is the sister organisation of the ASA and is responsible for writing the Advertising Codes. The ASA and CAP are committed to regulating in a way that is transparent, proportionate, targeted, evidence-based, consistent and accountable."
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/about-regulation/about-the-asa-and-cap.html
The CAP;
"The Codes are the responsibility of two industry Committees - the Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) and the Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP) and are independently administered by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).
Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP)
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP)
Industry Advisory Panel
Promotional Marketing and Direct Response Panel
Advertising Advisory Committee
Online Publications Media Panel
Our Executive"
[....]
Committee of Advertising Practice
CAP writes the UK Code of Non-broadcast Advertising and Direct & Promotional Marketing (CAP Code) and helps enforce ASA rulings.
Television on Demand Industry Forum
Advertising Association
Cinema Advertising Association
Direct Marketing Association
Direct Selling Association
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
Institute of Promotional Marketing
Internet Advertising Bureau
Mobile UK
News Media Association
Outsmart Out of Home
Professional Publishers Association
Proprietary Association of Great Britain
Royal Mail
Scottish Newspaper Society
Clearcast
Radiocentre
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice
Advertising Association
Sky UK Ltd
Channel 4 Television Corporation
Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd
Commercial Broadcasters Association (CoBA)
Direct Marketing Association
Electronic Retailing Association UK
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
ITV plc
Radiocentre
S4C
BT
STV"
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/people/cap-panels-and-committees.html
Jesus Christ.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Neither of the above pages has any reference to agencies like Clearcast, who are mentioned in the Sky article as being involved in the decision.
Add Ofcom to the mix and we're looking at a Byzantine monster. And seemingly unaccountable.
Indeed. I also wonder how many demonstrably fake charities are involved as a
percentage.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
What's clear from these decisions and the achingly PC nature of many adverts, with their hugely disproportionate displays of mixed race couples, minorities and same-sex relationships, is that a Leftist monoculture is steering the advertising we consume.
Absolutely. It has been going that way for some time.

I was in a branch of the company I bank with (Barclays) and they had a leaflet
advertising some product/service or other. The leaflet showed a number of
people every imaginable shade of brown with not a white person in view. I
asked the personal banker (remember those?) whether I was allowed to make use
of the product/service in question. She replied along the lines of "Of
course!", expressing a certain amount of surprise that I would ask. I told her
that the picture on the front made me feel that I as a white person wasn't
supposed to use the service. She looked down and went silent as though she saw
my point but didn't really know what to say. I imagine the reaction might have
been quite different to-day.
g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-14 17:05:22 UTC
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Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely
to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the
men were incapable of caring for children.
At least they have gone for a "harmful" stereotype of men, though. My
expectation would be that men are fair game.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include
gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread
offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive
image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern
society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical
stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell
mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could
equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it
seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers
seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous
nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of
today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they
claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman
in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a complaint. We
clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be protected from themselves.
A cursory investigation into the ASA reveals a veritable myriad of panels and agencies;
"The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent advertising regulator. The ASA makes sure ads across UK media stick to the advertising rules (the Advertising Codes).
The Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) is the sister organisation of the ASA and is responsible for writing the Advertising Codes. The ASA and CAP are committed to regulating in a way that is transparent, proportionate, targeted, evidence-based, consistent and accountable."
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/about-regulation/about-the-asa-and-cap.html
The CAP;
"The Codes are the responsibility of two industry Committees - the Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) and the Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP) and are independently administered by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).
Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP)
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP)
Industry Advisory Panel
Promotional Marketing and Direct Response Panel
Advertising Advisory Committee
Online Publications Media Panel
Our Executive"
[....]
Committee of Advertising Practice
CAP writes the UK Code of Non-broadcast Advertising and Direct & Promotional Marketing (CAP Code) and helps enforce ASA rulings.
Television on Demand Industry Forum
Advertising Association
Cinema Advertising Association
Direct Marketing Association
Direct Selling Association
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
Institute of Promotional Marketing
Internet Advertising Bureau
Mobile UK
News Media Association
Outsmart Out of Home
Professional Publishers Association
Proprietary Association of Great Britain
Royal Mail
Scottish Newspaper Society
Clearcast
Radiocentre
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice
Advertising Association
Sky UK Ltd
Channel 4 Television Corporation
Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd
Commercial Broadcasters Association (CoBA)
Direct Marketing Association
Electronic Retailing Association UK
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
ITV plc
Radiocentre
S4C
BT
STV"
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/people/cap-panels-and-committees.html
Jesus Christ.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Neither of the above pages has any reference to agencies like Clearcast, who are mentioned in the Sky article as being involved in the decision.
Add Ofcom to the mix and we're looking at a Byzantine monster. And seemingly unaccountable.
Indeed. I also wonder how many demonstrably fake charities are involved as a
percentage.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
What's clear from these decisions and the achingly PC nature of many adverts, with their hugely disproportionate displays of mixed race couples, minorities and same-sex relationships, is that a Leftist monoculture is steering the advertising we consume.
Absolutely. It has been going that way for some time.
I was in a branch of the company I bank with (Barclays) and they had a leaflet
advertising some product/service or other. The leaflet showed a number of
people every imaginable shade of brown with not a white person in view. I
asked the personal banker (remember those?) whether I was allowed to make use
of the product/service in question. She replied along the lines of "Of
course!", expressing a certain amount of surprise that I would ask. I told her
that the picture on the front made me feel that I as a white person wasn't
supposed to use the service. She looked down and went silent as though she saw
my point but didn't really know what to say. I imagine the reaction might have
been quite different to-day.
With today's bad law, containing such phrases as "likely to cause offence", the consequences of making such a statement could mean all or nothing.
Phi
2019-08-14 18:28:42 UTC
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Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Post by Incubus
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely
to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the
men were incapable of caring for children.
At least they have gone for a "harmful" stereotype of men, though. My
expectation would be that men are fair game.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include
gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread
offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive
image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern
society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical
stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell
mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could
equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it
seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers
seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous
nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of
today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they
claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman
in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a complaint. We
clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be protected from themselves.
A cursory investigation into the ASA reveals a veritable myriad of panels and agencies;
"The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent
advertising regulator. The ASA makes sure ads across UK media stick to
the advertising rules (the Advertising Codes).
The Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) is the sister organisation
of the ASA and is responsible for writing the Advertising Codes. The ASA
and CAP are committed to regulating in a way that is transparent,
proportionate, targeted, evidence-based, consistent and accountable."
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/about-regulation/about-the-asa-and-cap.html
The CAP;
"The Codes are the responsibility of two industry Committees - the
Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) and the Broadcast Committee of
Advertising Practice (BCAP) and are independently administered by the
Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).
Here you can find out more about the Committees, Executive and Panels
Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP)
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP)
Industry Advisory Panel
Promotional Marketing and Direct Response Panel
Advertising Advisory Committee
Online Publications Media Panel
Our Executive"
[....]
Committee of Advertising Practice
CAP writes the UK Code of Non-broadcast Advertising and Direct &
Promotional Marketing (CAP Code) and helps enforce ASA rulings.
Established in 1961, the Committee and the Code marked their 50th
anniversary in 2011. The existing CAP membership consists of
Television on Demand Industry Forum
Advertising Association
Cinema Advertising Association
Direct Marketing Association
Direct Selling Association
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
Institute of Promotional Marketing
Internet Advertising Bureau
Mobile UK
News Media Association
Outsmart Out of Home
Professional Publishers Association
Proprietary Association of Great Britain
Royal Mail
Scottish Newspaper Society
Clearcast
Radiocentre
Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice
The success of CAP’s regulation of non-broadcast ads encouraged Ofcom to
contract-out the regulation of broadcast advertising to the ASA system.
This led to the formation of a co-regulatory partnership and BCAP. BCAP
writes the UK Code of Broadcast Advertising. The existing BCAP
Advertising Association
Sky UK Ltd
Channel 4 Television Corporation
Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd
Commercial Broadcasters Association (CoBA)
Direct Marketing Association
Electronic Retailing Association UK
Incorporated Society of British Advertisers
Institute of Practitioners in Advertising
ITV plc
Radiocentre
S4C
BT
STV"
https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/people/cap-panels-and-committees.html
Jesus Christ.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Neither of the above pages has any reference to agencies like Clearcast,
who are mentioned in the Sky article as being involved in the decision.
Add Ofcom to the mix and we're looking at a Byzantine monster. And
seemingly unaccountable.
Indeed. I also wonder how many demonstrably fake charities are involved as a
percentage.
Post by g***@googlemail.com
What's clear from these decisions and the achingly PC nature of many
adverts, with their hugely disproportionate displays of mixed race
couples, minorities and same-sex relationships, is that a Leftist
monoculture is steering the advertising we consume.
Absolutely. It has been going that way for some time.
I was in a branch of the company I bank with (Barclays) and they had a leaflet
advertising some product/service or other. The leaflet showed a number of
people every imaginable shade of brown with not a white person in view. I
asked the personal banker (remember those?) whether I was allowed to make use
of the product/service in question. She replied along the lines of "Of
course!", expressing a certain amount of surprise that I would ask. I told her
that the picture on the front made me feel that I as a white person wasn't
supposed to use the service. She looked down and went silent as though she saw
my point but didn't really know what to say. I imagine the reaction might have
been quite different to-day.
With today's bad law, containing such phrases as "likely to cause offence",
the consequences of making such a statement could mean all or nothing.


I agree with the ban, men should not be seen doing a womans work, just
because the nuclear family has disintergrated.
Joe
2019-08-14 13:33:45 UTC
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:09:26 -0000 (UTC)
Incubus <***@gmail.com> wrote:


Please don't call them social engineers, a title which has certain
implications of competence. Call them 'social alchemists', or 'social
astrologers', or similar.
Post by Incubus
Those other millions were obviously too traumatised to make a
complaint. We clearly have a nation of snowflakes who must be
protected from themselves.
Or alternatively, a small number of people have discovered/created a
new route to personal power and prosperity.
--
Joe
b***@gmail.com
2019-08-14 15:20:02 UTC
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I think that the basis of these complaints is simply people making mischief to highlight the stupidity of the whole initiative. I'd be very surprised if anyone really did give a shit, in the examples cited. However, I can quite see why people would want to play the woke types at their own game.

Bill.
Dan S. MacAbre
2019-08-14 15:27:52 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
I think that the basis of these complaints is simply people making mischief to highlight the stupidity of the whole initiative. I'd be very surprised if anyone really did give a shit, in the examples cited. However, I can quite see why people would want to play the woke types at their own game.
Bill.
That Alinsky bloke said that you should always hold your enemy to their
own standards. Not pleasant, but right now they are creating the rules
of the game...
Dan S. MacAbre
2019-08-14 12:07:48 UTC
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Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the men were incapable of caring for children.
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-14 17:37:26 UTC
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by g***@googlemail.com
Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the men were incapable of caring for children.
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
Dan S. MacAbre
2019-08-14 18:32:24 UTC
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Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the men were incapable of caring for children.
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
I like that. Let's hope it catches on. :-) The phrase 'eating
themselves' also seems popular.
Incubus
2019-08-15 08:57:19 UTC
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Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
Viewers said the ad perpetuated a harmful stereotype by suggesting that the men were incapable of caring for children.
Under new rules that came into effect on 14 June, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
In response to the backlash, Mondelez UK argued that the ad showed a positive image of men with a responsible and active role in childcare in modern society.
The company added that it chose two dads to deliberately avoid the typical stereotype of new mothers with the responsibility of childcare.
Ad clearance agency Clearcast said the dads' agreement to "let's not tell mum" was a "commonplace exclamation signifying embarrassment" that could equally be applied in role reversal."
[....]
https://news.sky.com/story/mondelez-and-volkswagen-tv-ads-banned-under-gender-stereotyping-rules-11784599
I cannot find the ads on YouTube, but if Sky's descriptions are accurate, it seems the remarkable thing about these decisions, is that the advertisers seemed to be conforming to a typically "woke" agenda anyway. The tenuous nature of the objections, even within the hyper-sensitive parameters of today's offence culture, is truly alarming.
"Three people complained about an ad for the Volkswagen eGolf car which they claimed showed men engaged in adventurous activities in contrast to a woman in a care-giving role."
Three people? In an audience of millions?
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
These seem to be happening more and more. In their desperate bid to virtue
signal, they often neglect some manner of laughable "intersectionality", which
is duly perceived as having pissed all over some group or other. In this case,
however, it sounds like the rules are being applied equally, which goes against
the "woke" mentality of attacking the "oppressor".
g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-15 09:05:38 UTC
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
These seem to be happening more and more. In their desperate bid to virtue
signal, they often neglect some manner of laughable "intersectionality", which
is duly perceived as having pissed all over some group or other. In this case,
however, it sounds like the rules are being applied equally, which goes against
the "woke" mentality of attacking the "oppressor".
Rad fems are not too keen on ladyboys in the wimmin's toilets, either.
Incubus
2019-08-15 09:17:14 UTC
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of blokes
for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
These seem to be happening more and more. In their desperate bid to virtue
signal, they often neglect some manner of laughable "intersectionality", which
is duly perceived as having pissed all over some group or other. In this case,
however, it sounds like the rules are being applied equally, which goes against
the "woke" mentality of attacking the "oppressor".
Rad fems are not too keen on ladyboys in the wimmin's toilets, either.
The whole "TERF wars" phenomenon has been extremely amusing. Apparently,
wearing women's clothing and calling yourself female is the ultimate expression
of "male privilege".
Moomin
2019-08-15 11:13:02 UTC
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
It all seems very silly indeed, but I have little sympathy for the
advertising industry since they've been taking the piss out of
blokes for decades. I see it as being entirely self-inflicted.
A woke-on-woke friendly fire incident?
These seem to be happening more and more. In their desperate bid to
virtue signal, they often neglect some manner of laughable
"intersectionality", which is duly perceived as having pissed all over
some group or other. In this case,
however, it sounds like the rules are being applied equally, which
goes against the "woke" mentality of attacking the "oppressor".
Rad fems are not too keen on ladyboys in the wimmin's toilets, either.
The whole "TERF wars" phenomenon has been extremely amusing.
Apparently, wearing women's clothing and calling yourself female is the
ultimate expression of "male privilege".
Oh, and by the way, I have a 7 inch clitoris.
Byker
2019-08-14 23:25:45 UTC
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Step-by-step, we are becoming Sweden;
"Philadelphia and Volkswagen TV ads banned under gender stereotyping rules.
Under new rules, adverts "must not include gender stereotypes that are
likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offence".
I wonder what took them so long? Check out some of these lulus:

Totally disgusting German "Sprite" commercial pushing interracial sex.
YouTube had to "restrict" this one:
or download via
https://ytmp3.cc/

Doritos: Spreading black worship via fag porn. Millions see anti-White
commercials, like this one, all the time during football games and other
sporting events. White males are always shown as pathetic, stupid gimps,
while the hero or cool person is always black:


Frail White boy is lost without noble black helping him. Reality check: Him
and his homies would have beat the hell out of the little White kid and
stole his lunch money and sneakers:


BBC openly pushing race-mixing. What happens in Britain soon comes to
America:


FIAT pushes miscegenation BIG TIME in commercial. Watch to the end and see
what they do:


Italian detergent ad:


and the Chinese response:


But watch the reaction when blacks are the fall guy:

g***@googlemail.com
2019-08-17 10:20:09 UTC
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http://youtu.be/MdFRWf-CNC8
Produced by a black man. Hilarious.

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