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asflijasdl
2020-02-14 04:14:50 UTC
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stage 1 was 'brexit'

javid confirms, he has his stooge chancellor

what next
Roger
2020-02-14 09:30:10 UTC
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stage 1 was 'brexit'
javid confirms, he has his stooge chancellor
what next
Duncan Smith on the Today program warned against giving credit to Cummings.

He said that despite his blustery exterior, BJ tends to have clear ideas of where he wants to go and suggested that it was likely BJ who orchestrated the ultimatumn [with my team or out]
Roger
2020-02-14 09:48:39 UTC
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Duncan Smith on the Today program warned against giving credit to Cummings.
Thinking about it this was yesterday evening...so it must have been 'PM program', not Today...
Ian Jackson
2020-02-14 09:53:10 UTC
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stage 1 was 'brexit'
javid confirms, he has his stooge chancellor
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Duncan Smith on the Today program warned against giving credit to Cummings.
He said that despite his blustery exterior, BJ tends to have clear
ideas of where he wants to go and suggested that it was likely BJ who
orchestrated the ultimatumn [with my team or out]
So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
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Ian
Roger
2020-02-14 10:10:47 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
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Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.

Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-02-14 10:31:49 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
Roger
2020-02-14 11:31:16 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D

But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.

But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I just don't understand where this is coming from.

In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-02-14 11:46:43 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
Roger
2020-02-14 12:10:46 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
I'm beinging to get the impression that the emphasis is on discrediting BJ's ability for getting things done.

I find myself in a bit of a crisis here; I don't actually agree with BJ's politics; I believe customs duties can and should be used to control economies (albeit in a regulated manner, not trade wars) wheras BJ is the opposite. I'm also generally more left ring than right. OTOH, I think he is a very competent politician who says where he wants to go and does it. I admire his politicial skill, and I like his personality. In fact DESPITE prefferring other policy, I thing he is by far the best option the UK has :D

So it makes sense that the many political elements in the UK that appear to have no coherent policy are trying to get along by discerditing BJ's capabilities.
abelard
2020-02-14 12:24:49 UTC
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I find myself in a bit of a crisis here; I don't actually agree with BJ's politics; I believe customs duties can and should be used to control economies (albeit in a regulated manner, not trade wars)
how do you distinguish 'them'?
examples perhaps?
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Roger
2020-02-14 12:34:41 UTC
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how do you distinguish 'them'?
examples perhaps?
The word in quotation marks does not appear in the quote.

Were you perhaps wondering how I distinguish between the use of customs duties in a trade war and the use of customs duties in controlling economies?
abelard
2020-02-14 12:35:43 UTC
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how do you distinguish 'them'?
examples perhaps?
The word in quotation marks does not appear in the quote.
Were you perhaps wondering how I distinguish between the use of customs duties in a trade war and the use of customs duties in controlling economies?
about that, yes..
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Roger
2020-02-14 12:43:45 UTC
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Were you perhaps wondering how I distinguish between the use of customs duties in a trade war and the use of customs duties in controlling economies?
about that, yes..
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Not exactly something I can answer in a couple of sentences and in any case completely OT in this thread. If your interested I'll try and knock up a little explanation and post it init's own thread over the weekend.
abelard
2020-02-14 12:46:20 UTC
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Were you perhaps wondering how I distinguish between the use of customs duties in a trade war and the use of customs duties in controlling economies?
about that, yes..
Not exactly something I can answer in a couple of sentences and in any case completely OT in this thread. If your interested I'll try and knock up a little explanation and post it init's own thread over the weekend.
than, i look forward to it
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Keema's Nan
2020-02-14 13:11:33 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would
expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge
on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I
just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in
this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the
summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said
no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears
that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
I'm beinging to get the impression that the emphasis is on discrediting BJ's
ability for getting things done.
I find myself in a bit of a crisis here;
Oh dear.

Perhaps you should consider counselling?
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I don't actually agree with BJ's
politics; I believe customs duties can and should be used to control
economies (albeit in a regulated manner, not trade wars) wheras BJ is the
opposite. I'm also generally more left ring than right. OTOH, I think he is a
very competent politician who says where he wants to go and does it. I admire
his politicial skill, and I like his personality. In fact DESPITE prefferring
other policy, I thing he is by far the best option the UK has :D
And you call that a crisis?

You really do need a shrink.
Post by Roger
So it makes sense that the many political elements in the UK that appear to
have no coherent policy are trying to get along by discerditing BJ's
capabilities.
Incubus
2020-02-14 12:11:59 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head. They blame him for their
current nightmare come true and automatically assume that anything he is
involved in must be terrible.
Ian Jackson
2020-02-14 13:43:19 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
-- Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can
judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings
because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial
act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed
after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it
was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as
usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
As far as Brexit is concerned, Cummings has to share the 'credit' for
its success with Nigel Farage.

Neither have ever been elected to the UK parliament.
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Keema's Nan
2020-02-14 13:55:25 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
-- Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can
judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings
because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial
act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed
after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it
was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as
usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
As far as Brexit is concerned, Cummings has to share the 'credit' for
its success with Nigel Farage.
And don’t forget a few million voters who, despite the best efforts of
‘project fear’ and the relentless idea that most wavering leavers had
already returned to the remain camp, steadfastly refused to believe the hype
and voted the Tories back into power with a “do what you like” majority.
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Neither have ever been elected to the UK parliament.
Roger
2020-02-14 13:58:22 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
-- Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can
judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings
because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial
act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed
after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it
was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as
usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
As far as Brexit is concerned, Cummings has to share the 'credit' for
its success with Nigel Farage.
Neither have ever been elected to the UK parliament.
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Ian
Nor have a large part of the Labour party who you could argue played a large part in BJ getting his vast majority ;-)
Ian Jackson
2020-02-14 15:37:35 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
-- Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can
judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings
because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial
act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed
after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it
was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as
usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
As far as Brexit is concerned, Cummings has to share the 'credit' for
its success with Nigel Farage.
Neither have ever been elected to the UK parliament.
--
Ian
Nor have a large part of the Labour party who you could argue played a
large part in BJ getting his vast majority ;-)
True, true.
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Incubus
2020-02-14 14:04:33 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
-- Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can
judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings
because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial
act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed
after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it
was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as
usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I get the impression that our establishment think that brexit would not
have happened without Cummings; so presumably they now intend to ruin
his life for that. That's going to be my ongoing assumption whenever a
new Cummings-related story appears. :-)
As far as Brexit is concerned, Cummings has to share the 'credit' for
its success with Nigel Farage.
Why - did they force 17.4 million of us to vote the way we did?
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Neither have ever been elected to the UK parliament.
Are those violins I hear?
Incubus
2020-02-14 12:09:45 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know one
way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e. it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
I don't recall Leftists claiming we're living in a dictatorship because the
unelected Alastair Campbell was "calling the shots" with Tony Blair as PM (yes,
people are actually claiming this is the case). Cummings seems to be something
of a lightning rod when it comes to Left Wing vitriol. Many think he was
instrumental in Britain voting to leave the EU and is now putting in place
nefarious reforms designed to give himself ultimate authority.

Meanwhile, the Left, as represented by the metropolitan elite, is still
fighting amongst itself and still doesn't understand why they lost the
referendum and the election. At least they can still agree in which phantasies
they should believe.
Ned Latham
2020-02-14 12:20:05 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the
throne', or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
The media are telling us that he is. In reality, how would we know
one way or the other? :-)
This is a common problem :D
But usually this can be pinning down to specific issues which we can judge on their merits.
But like I said....I must have missed something with Cummings because
I just don't understand where this is coming from.
In fact when trying to search, I find Cummings most controversial act
in this government was suggesting that Parliament stayed closed after
the summer recess.....and yet according to leaked messages it was BJ
who said no...we will open for the first two weeks as usual.....i.e.
it appears that BJ is calling the shots on Cummings options.
One way to destabilise a leader is to discredit or alienate his best
advisors.
Joe
2020-02-14 10:32:44 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the
throne', or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would
expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
The media imply it, so it must be true.

We never knew who it was with May, but she certainly did not behave as
if she was making policy herself, the famous off-off-off-off-off-on
election that she nearly lost being the prime example.
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Joe
Stephen Cole
2020-02-14 10:34:44 UTC
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Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
Boris Johnson’s entire career to date? I mean, it’s pretty well-established
that Johnson is lazy, reckless, unfocused, and so on, so it does seem
fairly reasonable to presume that much of the current drive in Number 10 is
coming from a source other than him.
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Roger
2020-02-14 11:35:51 UTC
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Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
Boris Johnson’s entire career to date? I mean, it’s pretty well-established
that Johnson is lazy, reckless, unfocused, and so on,
By whom? His detractors certainly, but if I look at any sucessful politician there is no shortage of critique. You are admitting that there must be a brain behind BJ's achievements; why can that not be attributed to BJ himself?
Pancho
2020-02-14 11:42:35 UTC
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Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
Boris Johnson’s entire career to date? I mean, it’s pretty well-established
that Johnson is lazy, reckless, unfocused, and so on,
By whom? His detractors certainly, but if I look at any sucessful politician there is no shortage of critique. You are admitting that there must be a brain behind BJ's achievements; why can that not be attributed to BJ himself?
Getting good advisers is the main skill required of someone at BJ's level.

You don't want an idiot Prima Donna showing everyone how clever he is.
Incubus
2020-02-14 10:34:54 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
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Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
Judging by comments on Guardian articles on FB, many Leftists put forward this
idea. Of course, we are talking about the same people who accused anyone pro
"Brexit" of being a Russian "bot" so one must take it with a pinch of salt.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-02-14 10:38:58 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we think Cummings is in charge?
Judging by comments on Guardian articles on FB, many Leftists put forward this
idea. Of course, we are talking about the same people who accused anyone pro
"Brexit" of being a Russian "bot" so one must take it with a pinch of salt.
I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue. Cryptic or demented,
who knows? A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
Pancho
2020-02-14 11:39:35 UTC
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I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue.  Cryptic or demented,
who knows?  A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
The only thing it revealed is that Dominic has a young kid.

Other than that it was a just basic "Fuck off".

Watching the media dress it up as "something" makes them look bad, pathetic.

The more I read about Cummings the more he just seems to be a normal
bloke trying to do a job.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-02-14 12:00:11 UTC
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I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue.  Cryptic or demented,
who knows?  A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
The only thing it revealed is that Dominic has a young kid.
Same here, otherwise I'd have no idea what the story was about. We
first saw them in Italy about five years ago (their kids channels are
much more enjoyable than ours) and it seems that although they are made
in English (I assume in the US), it took a few years for them to appear
over here.
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Other than that it was a just basic "Fuck off".
But without being obviously rude, and without trying to walk away
quickly and silently and looking flustered, like such people always used
to. I look forward to it catching on with politicians of all colours.
More amusing than their usual bleating, anyway.
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Watching the media dress it up as "something" makes them look bad, pathetic.
They seems to think people like that sort of thing.
Post by Pancho
The more I read about Cummings the more he just seems to be a normal
bloke trying to do a job.
One of the Brexit films (the one with Benedict Cumberbatch [why not
Comberbach?]) made him out to be rather cerebral. Seems rather
mysterious to me, but I like that. :-)
abelard
2020-02-14 12:29:36 UTC
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Watching the media dress it up as "something" makes them look bad, pathetic.
They seems to think people like that sort of thing.
the reptiles are desperate as they see their unaccountable power
slipping away...it tends them to hysteria

most of them are not very bright
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Keema's Nan
2020-02-14 13:15:42 UTC
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Post by Pancho
Watching the media dress it up as "something" makes them look bad, pathetic.
They seems to think people like that sort of thing.
the reptiles are desperate as they see their unaccountable power
slipping away...it tends them to hysteria
most of them are not very bright
And yet they invent ‘bright’ names for their unaccountable power grabbing
covens - such as Integrity Initiative, and Institute For Statecraft.
abelard
2020-02-14 19:31:43 UTC
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:15:42 +0000, Keema's Nan
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by Pancho
Watching the media dress it up as "something" makes them look bad, pathetic.
They seems to think people like that sort of thing.
the reptiles are desperate as they see their unaccountable power
slipping away...it tends them to hysteria
most of them are not very bright
And yet they invent ‘bright’ names for their unaccountable power grabbing
covens - such as Integrity Initiative, and Institute For Statecraft.
if you have a useless product you must give it a posh name

how else can you fool the marks?
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JNugent
2020-02-14 18:21:04 UTC
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So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
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Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one would
expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
Judging by comments on Guardian articles on FB, many Leftists put forward this
idea.  Of course, we are talking about the same people who accused
anyone pro
"Brexit" of being a Russian "bot" so one must take it with a pinch of salt.
I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue.  Cryptic or demented,
who knows?  A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
I didn't understand a word of it (though I've read the explanation since
then).
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-02-14 23:49:21 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why we
think Cummings is in charge?
Judging by comments on Guardian articles on FB, many Leftists put forward this
idea.  Of course, we are talking about the same people who accused
anyone pro
"Brexit" of being a Russian "bot" so one must take it with a pinch of salt.
I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue.  Cryptic or demented,
who knows?  A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
I didn't understand a word of it (though I've read the explanation since
then).
I don't think that there was anything that was meant to be understood.
It was like James Joyce was in charge for a few seconds :-)
JNugent
2020-02-15 02:59:20 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
So the question is, "Is Cummings really 'the power behind the throne',
or is he simply Boris's 'enforcer'?"
--
Ian
Or quite simply a faithful and highly skilled assistent; as one
would expect in a successful politicians core team.
Was there something I missed or is there some specific reason why
we think Cummings is in charge?
Judging by comments on Guardian articles on FB, many Leftists put forward this
idea.  Of course, we are talking about the same people who accused
anyone pro
"Brexit" of being a Russian "bot" so one must take it with a pinch of salt.
I have to say I enjoyed that PJ Masks dialogue.  Cryptic or demented,
who knows?  A perfect response to doorstepping reporters.
I didn't understand a word of it (though I've read the explanation
since then).
I don't think that there was anything that was meant to be understood.
It was like James Joyce was in charge for a few seconds :-)
:-)

Keema's Nan
2020-02-14 13:02:05 UTC
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Post by asflijasdl
stage 1 was 'brexit'
javid confirms, he has his stooge chancellor
what next
Free ’mad’ haircuts for all?
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