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OT: Ireland still recovering from 19th-century potato famine
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Byker
2021-09-01 16:17:24 UTC
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The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
Byker
2021-09-05 17:01:55 UTC
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"Gregory Carr" wrote in message
Stupid micks. The Potato Famine was very, very, very bad.
Which one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Famine_(1740%E2%80%9341)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Famine_(1879)
Found your 1740 Irish famine reference very informative.
Irish famines were periodic well into the 20th Century:



"A short film produced by Pathe News around 1905 that
brought attention to famine in Ireland in that year."
SevenOverSix
2021-09-06 01:38:40 UTC
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Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
and WORKING.

It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
jihadi though is PROUD of himself.

As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.

If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
"refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
Daniel65
2021-09-06 11:57:23 UTC
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Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
  Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
  a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
  park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
  and WORKING.
  It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
  jihadi though is PROUD of himself.
  As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
  made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
  the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
  not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
  They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
  of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
  hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.
  If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
  "refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
  WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
  the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
  waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
--
Daniel
Rod Speed
2021-09-06 20:40:20 UTC
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Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
and WORKING.
It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
jihadi though is PROUD of himself.
As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.
If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
"refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it??
Nope.
Post by Daniel65
Or was it English doing it to Irish??
Yep. It was after all an english colony.
Byker
2021-09-06 23:22:44 UTC
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No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
Or in my case, the English doing it to the Ulster Scots,
who got smart and sailed over to this side of the pond...
SevenOverSix
2021-09-07 04:02:03 UTC
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Post by Daniel65
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
Or in my case, the English doing it to the Ulster Scots, who got smart
and sailed over to this side of the pond...
Notice how FEW live in Nova Scotia though :-)
Byker
2021-09-07 23:19:31 UTC
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Or in my case, the English doing it to the Ulster Scots, who got smart
and sailed over to this side of the pond...
The poorer ones went to North America. The more well off Ulster Scots
could afford the fares to Australasia.
In the age of sail, I wonder how many survived the voyage.

It was considered quite normal for a quarter of the passengers to die during
an Atlantic crossing. The corpses would be hauled on deck and tossed
overboard without ceremony...
Petzl
2021-09-07 23:45:38 UTC
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Post by Byker
Or in my case, the English doing it to the Ulster Scots, who got smart
and sailed over to this side of the pond...
The poorer ones went to North America. The more well off Ulster Scots
could afford the fares to Australasia.
In the age of sail, I wonder how many survived the voyage.
It was considered quite normal for a quarter of the passengers to die during
an Atlantic crossing. The corpses would be hauled on deck and tossed
overboard without ceremony...
The so called "potato famine" in Ireland was caused by the English who
were overseas landlords of Ireland, the potato shortage just meant all
food was being taken from the Irish to be sold to the English.
The English also sold the Irish as slave labor
Reality many Irish were slaves sent over to US as convicts
Chained up and whipped, forced to work. Often for the crime of simply
being Irish.
That's not "sentence", that's slavery.
--
Petzl
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Mountain Magpie
2021-09-08 00:20:18 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:45:38 +1000, Petzl posted:-
Post by Petzl
The so called "potato famine" in Ireland was caused by the English who
were overseas landlords of Ireland, the potato shortage just meant all
food was being taken from the Irish to be sold to the English.
The English also sold the Irish as slave labor
Reality many Irish were slaves sent over to US as convicts
Chained up and whipped, forced to work. Often for the crime of simply
being Irish.
That's not "sentence", that's slavery.
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.

Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when it
comes to politics.
Petzl
2021-09-08 00:47:03 UTC
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Post by Mountain Magpie
On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:45:38 +1000, Petzl posted:-
Post by Petzl
The so called "potato famine" in Ireland was caused by the English who
were overseas landlords of Ireland, the potato shortage just meant all
food was being taken from the Irish to be sold to the English.
The English also sold the Irish as slave labor
Reality many Irish were slaves sent over to US as convicts
Chained up and whipped, forced to work. Often for the crime of simply
being Irish.
That's not "sentence", that's slavery.
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.
Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when it
comes to politics.
Maybe I'm not reading the right papers, see him mentioned only rarely
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
Mountain Magpie
2021-09-08 04:43:03 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:47:03 +1000, Petzl posted:-
Post by Petzl
Post by Mountain Magpie
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.
Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when
it comes to politics.
Maybe I'm not reading the right papers, see him mentioned only rarely
he was wetting his panties the other day about how naughty
Australia is being to China. Maybe he is another spy in the ALP (in
their fine tradition?)

Or maybe his live in Indonesian boy friend, as well as getting into
Cheating's pants, has been bending his ear as well?
Post by Petzl
--
SevenOverSix
2021-09-08 05:56:28 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:47:03 +1000, Petzl posted:-
Post by Petzl
Post by Mountain Magpie
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.
Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when
it comes to politics.
Maybe I'm not reading the right papers, see him mentioned only rarely
he was wetting his panties the other day about how naughty
Australia is being to China. Maybe he is another spy in the ALP (in
their fine tradition?)
Or maybe his live in Indonesian boy friend, as well as getting into
Cheating's pants, has been bending his ear as well?
CCP agent for sure ......

Oh well, Oz has gone off the deep end now :

- - - -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9968027/Covid-19-Australia-Jewish-worshippers-slammed-police-appalling-Melbourne-synagogue-gathering.html

'Selfish' Jewish worshippers are slammed for brazen Melbourne
synagogue gathering - as it's revealed lockdown breakers climbed ROOFS
to escape police during violent stand-off-

- - - -

Did they just burn down the Synagogue with all
inside ? Didn't say exactly .......

So, LET the CCP have them. Might actually be
an IMPROVEMENT. Oz has gone TOTALLY off the
deep end. Next week it will be autonomous
kill-drones seeking out anybody who steps
outside to talk to their neighbor .....

Once I thought highly of Oz, seemed much like
the USA in the sensible 40s/50s but with a
certain libertine flair. But NOW ... YIKES !!!
Seig HEIL ....
Rod Speed
2021-09-08 06:25:27 UTC
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Post by Mountain Magpie
Post by Petzl
Post by Mountain Magpie
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.
Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when
it comes to politics.
Maybe I'm not reading the right papers, see him mentioned only rarely
he was wetting his panties the other day about how naughty
Australia is being to China. Maybe he is another spy in the ALP (in
their fine tradition?)
Or maybe his live in Indonesian boy friend, as well as getting into
Cheating's pants, has been bending his ear as well?
CCP agent for sure ......
- - - -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9968027/Covid-19-Australia-Jewish-worshippers-slammed-police-appalling-Melbourne-synagogue-gathering.html
'Selfish' Jewish worshippers are slammed for brazen Melbourne synagogue
gathering - as it's revealed lockdown breakers climbed ROOFS to escape
police during violent stand-off-
- - - -
Did they just burn down the Synagogue with all inside ?
Nope, issued them with the very substantial fine
that applys to gatherings of more than the allowed
number of people for that sort of activity.
Post by SevenOverSix
Didn't say exactly .......
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/victoria-police-responding-possible-breaches-religious-gathering/100441768
does, you need a better news source.
Post by SevenOverSix
So, LET the CCP have them. Might actually be an IMPROVEMENT.
Oz has gone TOTALLY off the deep end.
More of your mindless bullshit.
Post by SevenOverSix
Next week it will be autonomous
kill-drones seeking out anybody who steps
outside to talk to their neighbor .....
More of your mindless bullshit.
Post by SevenOverSix
Once I thought highly of Oz, seemed much like
the USA in the sensible 40s/50s but with a
certain libertine flair. But NOW ... YIKES !!!
Seig HEIL ....
More of your mindless bullshit.
Byker
2021-09-08 16:38:37 UTC
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Post by Mountain Magpie
On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:47:03 +1000, Petzl posted:-
Post by Petzl
Post by Mountain Magpie
Paul "The closet Poof" Keating has never got over that.
Mr Irrelevant Keating just can't keep his trap shut these days when
it comes to politics.
Maybe I'm not reading the right papers, see him mentioned only rarely
he was wetting his panties the other day about how naughty
Australia is being to China. Maybe he is another spy in the ALP (in
their fine tradition?)
Nothing secret about that: https://tinyurl.com/wtmc3czp

Fran
2021-09-07 03:13:12 UTC
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Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
   Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
   a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
   park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
   and WORKING.
   It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
   jihadi though is PROUD of himself.
   As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
   made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
   the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
   not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
   They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
   of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
   hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.
   If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
   "refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
   WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
   the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
   waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
Much of the land in Ireland in the mid 19th C was owned by Brits and
many of the Irish were tenant farmers. When the Great Famine arrived,
(IIRC that was in the 1840s but there were a few smaller ones and there
were similar crop failures at that time through other parts of Europe)
many Irish, did or nearly, starved. The potato crop which is was a
chief source of food for the Irish got 'blight'. Potatoes became a
staple because, as a buried crop, it was something that the landlord's
agents wouldn't remove as it'd require them to get their hands dirty.
The landlords may or may not have known of the famine as they left the
dealings with the Irish to their land agents.

There was some interesting reports to the UK Parliament about it - I
think I've read some of parts of them but it was now such a long time
ago that I can't dredge up more than a memory of their existence.
Rod Speed
2021-09-07 04:18:16 UTC
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Post by SevenOverSix
Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
and WORKING.
It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
jihadi though is PROUD of himself.
As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.
If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
"refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
Much of the land in Ireland in the mid 19th C was owned by Brits and many
of the Irish were tenant farmers. When the Great Famine arrived, (IIRC
that was in the 1840s but there were a few smaller ones and there were
similar crop failures at that time through other parts of Europe) many
Irish, did or nearly, starved. The potato crop which is was a chief
source of food for the Irish got 'blight'.
Potatoes became a staple because, as a buried crop, it was something that
the landlord's agents wouldn't remove as it'd require them to get their
hands dirty.
More mindless pig ignorant silly Flanshit.
The landlords may or may not have known of the famine as they left the
dealings with the Irish to their land agents.
Who would have used goons to remove the potatoes, fuckwit.
There was some interesting reports to the UK Parliament about it - I think
I've read some of parts of them but it was now such a long time ago that I
can't dredge up more than a memory of their existence.
And are too stupid to even comprehend the basics, as always.
Byker
2021-09-07 23:02:02 UTC
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Much of the land in Ireland in the mid 19th C was owned by Brits and many
of the Irish were tenant farmers. When the Great Famine arrived, (IIRC
that was in the 1840s but there were a few smaller ones and there were
similar crop failures at that time through other parts of Europe) many
Irish, did or nearly, starved. The potato crop which is was a chief
source of food for the Irish got 'blight'.
The Irish "Lumper" potato is still around, and still
susceptible to blight:


And what did they farm BEFORE the potato?:

Potatoes became a staple because, as a buried crop, it was something that
the landlord's agents wouldn't remove as it'd require them to get their
hands dirty. The landlords may or may not have known of the famine as they
left the dealings with the Irish to their land agents.
It was not uncommon for British landlords to pay their
tenants' passage to America just to be RID of them...
SevenOverSix
2021-09-07 04:00:57 UTC
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Post by Byker
The total population on the island of Ireland in 1851 was 6.6 million.
Including today's Northern Ireland population of 1.89 million, the island
now has 6.9 million people."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/ireland-population-surpasses-5m-for-first-time-since-1851
https://is.gd/atAb0t
We'll see how well they welcome a million Muslim "migrants"...
   Brit news today, a 29 year old Afghan man STABBED
   a 60+ woman in the neck several times in a public
   park. Her crime against Sharia - she was a gardener
   and WORKING.
   It is unclear whether the woman will survive. The
   jihadi though is PROUD of himself.
   As for the Potato Famine - yea, it WAS bad. It was
   made much WORSE by the class/economic paradigms of
   the day. The overlords demanded product, and did
   not give a shit how many starved in the meantime.
   They made potato THE crop - there wasn't enough
   of anything else to eat and the bosses sure as
   hell weren't going to buy it from abroad.
   If the UK/EU tries to send a zillion Islamist
   "refugees" to Ireland it'll be the same arrogant
   WhoGivesAShitAboutTheIrish attitude as back in
   the Potato days. Just dump the cultural toxic
   waste in Ireland and who cares about the results.
No, because "back in the Potato days" it was Irish doing it to Irish,
wasn't it?? Or was it English doing it to Irish??
SOME Irish - but mostly English.

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