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RH156RH
2019-09-06 21:15:34 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson

I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?

At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the 31st October arrives.

On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop the UK leaving the EU by default.

At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote of No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more than Johnson losing the post of PM.

It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No Confidence.

A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by removing him from No 10. But it could also easily result a general election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.

But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK government making a request to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a referendum .

Telegraph
Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-law-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#
abelard
2019-09-06 21:24:59 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch

one may as well 'read' the groaniad
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RH156RH
2019-09-07 20:17:28 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
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2019-09-07 20:56:47 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
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RH156RH
2019-09-08 07:21:44 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
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Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
abelard
2019-09-08 10:21:06 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
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RH156RH
2019-09-08 14:40:08 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
abelard
2019-09-08 14:46:53 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
indeed...you are putting out garbage again...

you must expect garbage back

as advised, you must take action to replace your broken parts if you
are to hope for anything else
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Keema's Nan
2019-09-08 14:52:27 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
abelard
2019-09-08 14:58:11 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
--
www.abelard.org
Keema's Nan
2019-09-08 15:06:01 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
Surely, you mean serstificate?
abelard
2019-09-08 15:09:40 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
Surely, you mean serstificate?
i did wonder but decided not to complicate your life further
....let alone poor old hatters
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Andy Walker
2019-09-08 19:20:34 UTC
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Surely, you mean serstificate?
Y'allus haster has a sustificate!
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RH156RH
2019-09-09 16:20:01 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, "Abelard" will start recounting tales of the glory days for valeve computers with Tommy Flowers providing the brain power... RH
abelard
2019-09-09 19:42:54 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
Oh dear, "Abelard" will start recounting tales of the glory days for valeve computers with Tommy Flowers providing the brain power... RH
you are confusing a fancy typewriter with a proto computer

such are the problems of a lump of wood
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2019-09-10 19:16:31 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states
that the Prime Minister must seek a further extension
from the EU which should be on the Statute Book by
Monday 9th Occtober? Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his
indeterminate reposes such as "I would rather die in a
ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow
operational power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the
amending Johnson's 's misuse of the proverbial "Die in a
ditch" . Still, watching a 1947 vintage valve computer is
amusing as it struggles with the most basic comprehension
tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by
"Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its
owner has noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO...
RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
i have a certificate for operating those
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, "Abelard" will start recounting tales of the glory days for
valeve computers with Tommy Flowers providing the brain power... RH
Abelard is well past his best. He wasn't all that good then.

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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ?
be dead in a ditch
one may as well 'read' the groaniad
Oh dear, the laughably small memory and ludicrously slow operational
power leads "abelard" to fail to comprehend the amending Johnson's 's
misuse of the proverbial "Die in a ditch" . Still, watching a 1947
vintage valve computer is amusing as it struggles with the most basic
comprehension tasks..,, RH
indeed, you made yet another error
Yet more basic computational inadequacy displayed by "Abelard"... RH
you have a system error...replace your memory and mother board
--
www.abelard.org
Oh dear, now "Abelard" is emitting random messages...Surely its owner has
noticed by now that "Abelard" is running on pure GIGO... RH
I suspect that someone has replaced his input keyboard with an Enigma
machine.
Much too advanced for "Abelard" of course but the results are decidedly amusing... RH
CheeseySock
2019-09-06 22:49:19 UTC
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I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch "
certainly in recent european history a lot of people did die in a
ditch... world war one eh, "the war to end all wars"

the EU are an arrogant bunch of ultra corrupt shite!

not much of a choice, our lot are full of empty words, boris johnson has
no intention of dying in a ditch, his kind send others to die in a ditch
for them!
Moomin
2019-09-07 05:10:15 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will
you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to
the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new
law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It
is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he
says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal
action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because
he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any
point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster
remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the
31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further
extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit
because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop
the UK leaving the EU by default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the
law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there
will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy
to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That
being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote of
No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more
than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up
to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is
reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could
do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No
Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by
removing him from No 10. But it could also easily result a general
election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government
can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I
have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the
EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK
government making a request to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is
difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be
made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a
momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a
referendum .
Telegraph Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit
delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-
law-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#


He could go to the EU and ask for a one day extension.
RH156RH
2019-09-07 07:17:23 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will
you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to
the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new
law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It
is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he
says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal
action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because
he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any
point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster
remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the
31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further
extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit
because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop
the UK leaving the EU by default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the
law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there
will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy
to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That
being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote of
No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more
than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up
to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is
reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could
do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No
Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by
removing him from No 10. But it could also easily result a general
election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government
can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I
have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the
EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK
government making a request to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is
difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be
made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a
momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a
referendum .
Telegraph Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit
delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-
law-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#
He could go to the EU and ask for a one day extension.
Wouldn't work because the Bill being pushed through by remainders states a three month extension. The EU could of course refuse any extension (some hopes), or offer a different extension, almost certainly a very long one. RH
Phi
2019-09-07 18:54:18 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will
you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to
the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new
law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements .
It
is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he
says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal
action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because
he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any
point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster
remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the
31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further
extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit
because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop
the UK leaving the EU by default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the
law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there
will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy
to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That
being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote of
No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more
than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up
to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is
reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could
do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No
Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by
removing him from No 10. But it could also easily result a general
election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government
can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I
have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the
EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK
government making a request to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is
difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be
made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a
momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a
referendum .
Telegraph Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit
delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-
law-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#
He could go to the EU and ask for a one day extension.
Wouldn't work because the Bill being pushed through by remainders states a
three month extension. The EU could of course refuse any extension (some
hopes), or offer a different extension, almost certainly a very long one.
RH
The other option is for the Queen not to give assent.
Roger
2019-09-08 00:03:17 UTC
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Post by RH156RH
How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will
you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to
the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new
law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements .
It
is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he
says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal
action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because
he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at
any
point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the
Westminster
remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the
31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further
extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit
because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop
the UK leaving the EU by default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the
law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there
will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it
easy
to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That
being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote
of
No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more
than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up
to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is
reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could
do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No
Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by
removing him from No 10. But it could also easily result a general
election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government
can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I
have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the
EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK
government making a request to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is
difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be
made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a
momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a
referendum .
Telegraph Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit
delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-
law-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#
He could go to the EU and ask for a one day extension.
Wouldn't work because the Bill being pushed through by remainders states a
three month extension. The EU could of course refuse any extension (some
hopes), or offer a different extension, almost certainly a very long one.
RH
The other option is for the Queen not to give assent.
Don’t be silly.
We would be back to Charles I.
Well Farage does have a pretty round head. Big question is do we have any monasteries left?
Keema's Nan
2019-09-07 07:58:00 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the Prime
Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should be on the
Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober?
Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes such as
"I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will you do if
Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to the EU and seek
an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new law.
Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It is
important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he says he
will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal action from the
likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because he will not have flouted
the new law at or said he will flout it at any point up to the 31st October ,
it will be difficult for the Westminster remainer gang to take any political
action against Johnson until the 31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further extension.
That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit because remainer gang
will not be able to act quickly enough to stop the UK leaving the EU by
default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the law,.
But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there will not be any
penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy to see what other
criminal offence Johnson might have committed. That being so all the Commons
could do would be to launch and win a vote of No Confidence in Johnson which
even if he lost would only mean no more than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up to or
simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is reached. But
what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could do if Johnson
behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by removing him
from No 10. But it could also easily result a general election, the very
thing most remainers fear, if no new government can be found within 14 days
of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I have laid
out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the EU indubitably
and could only be put back into it by a future UK government making a request
to the EU to rejoin. Moreover, it is difficult politically to see how any new
application to join could be made without a new referendum being held, both
because it would be a momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was
made by a referendum .
Telegraph
Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-law-rat
her-ask-brexit-delay/#
An excellent strategy.
Pamela
2019-09-07 09:57:05 UTC
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How should Boris Johnson deal with the Bill which states that the
Prime Minister must seek a further extension from the EU which should
be on the Statute Book by Monday 9th Occtober? Robert Henderson
I suggest this. Boris Johnson keeps on with his indeterminate reposes
such as "I would rather die in a ditch " ? to the question "What will
you do if Parliament passes a Bill which obligates you as PM to go to
the EU and seek an extension to the leaving date?
At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new
law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It
is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he
says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal
action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because
he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any
point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster
remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the
31st October arrives.
On 31st October Johnson simply fails too ask the EU for a further
extension. That should get us out of the EU with a NO DEAL. Brexit
because remainer gang will not be able to act quickly enough to stop
the UK leaving the EU by default.
At that point Johnson would on the face of it have failed to obey the
law,. But what penalty could he suffer? It is a fair bet that there
will not be any penalty included in the Act he disobeys. Nor is it easy
to see what other criminal offence Johnson might have committed.
Comptempt of Parliament is punishable by incarceration. A prisoner can not
stand as MP in an election.

I hope Boris follows your advice and the martyr finds himself in chokey while
the country holds a general election.
Post by RH156RH
That
being so all the Commons could do would be to launch and win a vote of
No Confidence in Johnson which even if he lost would only mean no more
than Johnson losing the post of PM.
It is of course possible that remainers will guess what Johnson is up
to or simply mistrust Johnson generally before the 31st October is
reached. But what if they do? . The only thing that the remainers could
do if Johnson behaves as I have suggested is call for a vote of No
Confidence.
A vote of No Confidence would do no more than punish Johnson by
removing him from No 10.
That would allow alternative delegates to inform the EU of the extension the
Uk seeks.
Post by RH156RH
But it could also easily result a general
election, the very thing most remainers fear, if no new government
can be found within 14 days of the No Confidence vote.
But whatever happens after the 31st October, using the strategy I
have laid out one thing is utterly certain: the UK would have left the
EU indubitably and could only be put back into it by a future UK
government making a request to the EU to rejoin.
Very few commentators agree that the UK can avoid getting an extension.
Dream on.
Post by RH156RH
Moreover, it is
difficult politically to see how any new application to join could be
made without a new referendum being held, both because it would be a
momentous matter and t because he decision to leave was made by a
referendum.
Telegraph
Boris Johnson set to defy the law rather than ask for Brexit delay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/06/boris-johnson-set-defy-la
w-rather-ask-brexit-delay/#
Once upon a time politics was a matter of implementing the sovereign will of
the people's representative. Now politics has become legalistic and full of
dishonest actors like Boris.
Roger
2019-09-08 00:00:55 UTC
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At no point before 31st should Johnson say that he will ignore the new law. Rather, he simply carries on making indeterminate statements . It is important that Johnson does this for two reasons: (1) because if he says he will not obey the law he will almost certainly prompt legal action from the likes of Gina Miller and John Major and (2) because he will not have flouted the new law at or said he will flout it at any point up to the 31st October , it will be difficult for the Westminster remainer gang to take any political action against Johnson until the 31st October arrives.
Politics is all about making indeterminate statements, promises whose lack of fulfilment can be blamed on others, and accusations which appear to apply to individuals but that could never be applied in a court of law.

On the other hand people trust in Politicians is second only to second hand car salesman...they believe political speeches about as much as they believe a car has been used once a week to go to church.

So why on earth would statement of a politician saying "I am going to break the law" be any more credible then anything else politicians claim on a daily basis?
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