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When a black woman is accused of murdering a white woman
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Basil Jet
2020-05-19 15:48:57 UTC
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... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused of
assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't looked
into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture of the
alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita Gordon", the
name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of the man who
allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
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Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-19 16:31:47 UTC
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... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused of
assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't looked
into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture of the
alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita Gordon", the
name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of the man who
allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
It would be racial profiling to show a black woman as black.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-19 16:57:59 UTC
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... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused of
assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't looked
into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture of the
alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita Gordon", the
name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of the man who
allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?

I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise you
probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of racist
implication.
Joe
2020-05-19 17:40:06 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
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Keema's Nan
2020-05-19 17:49:57 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?

They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
JNugent
2020-05-19 18:47:44 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-19 19:10:22 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-19 19:16:42 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-19 20:13:02 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-20 07:42:34 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 13:29:32 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-20 14:00:48 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I
realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-20 14:03:59 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I
realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
I never really felt the urge to bother parting with my hard earned cash, just
for that.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 15:53:48 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I
realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
I never really felt the urge to bother parting with my hard earned cash, just
for that.
Stingy bastard. They can do a much better job than you can yourself.
Keema's Nan
2020-05-20 15:59:00 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I
realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony
of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
I never really felt the urge to bother parting with my hard earned cash, just
for that.
Stingy bastard. They can do a much better job than you can yourself.
I’ll just have to take your word for that.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 16:56:05 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I
realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony
of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
I find that tosser is generally male.
Unless a woman does the tossing.
I have never found them to be much good at that - all fingers and thumbs, you
might say.
You should have gone to a qualified professional.
I never really felt the urge to bother parting with my hard earned cash, just
for that.
Stingy bastard. They can do a much better job than you can yourself.
I’ll just have to take your word for that.
Please do.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-19 21:48:19 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 13:46:20 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
Keema's Nan
2020-05-20 14:06:23 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
Some of them are, but that depends on your fetishes.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-20 20:30:09 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
I think of them as trolley dollies and male trolly dollies. Like
strippers and male strippers.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 20:44:18 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
I think of them as trolley dollies and male trolly dollies. Like
strippers and male strippers.
When the word 'stripper' was coined, nobody imagined there's be male
strippers. That's probably why it wasn't 'stripperess' originally.
JNugent
2020-05-21 17:02:28 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
I think of them as trolley dollies and male trolly dollies. Like
strippers and male strippers.
When the word 'stripper' was coined, nobody imagined there's be male
strippers. That's probably why it wasn't 'stripperess' originally.
Yes, painting and decorating used to be a more or less all-male profession.

But it's changing. So is plumbing.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-21 17:15:39 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
'Actress' is disappearing in favour of 'actor' for both sexes.
Prostitutess disappeared long ago.
Oddly, I've never heard that waitresses prefer to be called waiters.
You will. Just give it time.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
But, of course, actors and actresses are 'special'.
Stewardesses became flight attendants instead of stewards. Are they
'special' too?
I think of them as trolley dollies and male trolly dollies. Like
strippers and male strippers.
When the word 'stripper' was coined, nobody imagined there's be male
strippers. That's probably why it wasn't 'stripperess' originally.
Yes, painting and decorating used to be a more or less all-male profession.
But it's changing. So is plumbing.
Indeed. There's only so much you can do with a 'degree' in gender
studies!

Keema's Nan
2020-05-19 19:15:34 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
What does that have to do with murderer?
JNugent
2020-05-19 22:44:46 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Maybe they just ignore the implications of gender?
They know them off by heart, as they learned them at school.
Very probably. And the same is true of proper English words such as
actress, conductress, authoress and seamstress, surely?
What does that have to do with murderer?
Surely you meant "murderess"?
Custos Custodum
2020-05-19 18:55:23 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender
However, the grammatical gender does not always correspond to
biological sex. German has "das Fräulein" and "das Mädchen", both
neuter because the grammatical suffix takes priority over any other
consideration. Another one is "die Ratte", which is feminine but can
also mean a male rat.
Post by Joe
(to use the word correctly)
Indeed. Even in this day and age, there are people who shy away from
the word "sex".
Pamela
2020-05-20 10:08:40 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100 Keema's Nan
On 19 May 2020, Basil Jet wrote (in article
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused
of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't
looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture
of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita
Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of
the man who allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
Isn't murderess sexist?
I don't believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most languages
have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Have you seen the term "Latinx" which is becoming common in the US? Groo!

Liza Estrada, 22, a student at San Francisco State University, said she
first became aware of "Latinx" on Twitter. She praised the fact that
it's becoming more common in her academic life. "Professors at my
school have started incorporating the term as well, which is really
great. It's a huge step that teachers are becoming aware about the
nonbinary students in their classes and aiming at inclusivity,"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinx-elitist-some-push-back-word-s-gr
owing-use-n957036
Incubus
2020-05-20 12:21:57 UTC
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Grammatical gender is different from natural gender. In Old English, for
example, the word for woman is "wif", which is a neuter noun. The word for
man, on the other hand, is masculine but actually refers to either gender.
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-05-20 13:32:10 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:57:59 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man
accused of assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I
haven't looked into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show
a picture of the alleged murderess. Even an image search on
"Gareeca Conita Gordon", the name of the alleged murderess, brings
up 10 pictures of the man who allegedly helped her but only 2
pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise
you probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of
racist implication.
So how does the rest of Europe get by, when most nouns in most
languages have a gender (to use the word correctly)?
Grammatical gender is different from natural gender. In Old English, for
example, the word for woman is "wif", which is a neuter noun. The word for
man, on the other hand, is masculine but actually refers to either gender.
There is no 'natural' gender: that's called sex. Gender is strictly
a grammatical term.
Basil Jet
2020-05-19 21:15:19 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused of
assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't looked
into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture of the
alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita Gordon", the
name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of the man who
allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
Isn’t murderess sexist?
I don’t believe murderer to have any gender bias, although I realise you
probably did it deliberately; but that just adds to the irony of racist
implication.
?

I used the English language correctly, deliberately.
I usually do, deliberately.
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CheeseySock
2020-05-19 23:20:08 UTC
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... most of the press reports show a picture of the Asian man accused of
assisting her (presumably of disposing of the body, I haven't looked
into it that much) but no-one seems to want to show a picture of the
alleged murderess. Even an image search on "Gareeca Conita Gordon", the
name of the alleged murderess, brings up 10 pictures of the man who
allegedly helped her but only 2 pictures of her.
yeah, I noticed that one a few days ago and did the searches... no pics,
but a mention of carribean heritage as I recall...

also... no description of victim, white? eastern euro? black? paki?
Basil Jet
2020-05-20 05:52:01 UTC
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also... no description of victim, white? eastern euro? black? paki?
White. Difficulty in working out who she was, along with needing to
contact relatives before going public with her identity, mean that you
can't read too much into a lack of photo in early reports.
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CheeseySock
2020-05-20 21:05:08 UTC
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also... no description of victim, white? eastern euro? black? paki?
White. Difficulty in working out who she was, along with needing to
contact relatives before going public with her identity, mean that you
can't read too much into a lack of photo in early reports.
sounds quite horror scenario as they showed picture of her, the picture
showed her as in the marriageable stage, quite pretty, raped young... yet
another victim of feminism and political correctness eh!
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