Post by Joe
On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:47:51 +0100
Post by James Hammerton Post by Joe
On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:57:31 +0100
Post by James Hammerton Post by abelard
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 07:17:55 -0700, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
Post by Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:44:52 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by firstname.lastname@example.org Post by James Hammerton
I now find myself wondering what would happen if we put this
question to our MPs...
The answer to the question is very simple. A woman is any
person who carries the XX chromosome in their genetic makeup
from conception onward.
And how do you find that out, without committing an offence?
Let the police/courts find out if you are charged with
'misgendering' someone or some such 'hate crime'®™.
it is up to the courts to decide your gender just as they
once had the task of deciding if you were a witch
Transphobe! You know full well it is up to *you* to decide your
gender. The courts' role should be to enforce gender self
identification against anyone who raises even the slightest doubt
that you are the gender you say you are...
Gender, perhaps, in its new meaning, but not sex. That's fixed at
conception, in all but a very, very tiny minority.
AFAICT the position of Stonewall, most LGBT groups these days, etc is
that gender trumps sex, hence the phrase "transgender women are
woman" (transgender woman = someone who was born male but has female
gender, or gender identity - the precise terminology used varies a
bit) and the support for gender self identification in these cases,
plus the right of transgender women to use women's spaces and
Note that these groups define the terms in such a manner that having
a gender dysphoria diagnosis, cross gender hormone therapy or surgery
are all optional to being trans. Essentially being a man (or woman or
non binary!) becomes a subjective matter, and trans means that your
subjective view matches your sex!
E.g. consider Alex Drummond (who sits on Stonewall's trans advisory
board), who in this video claims to be "widening the bandwith of how
to be a woman": http://youtu.be/argNVR5HVgE
Alex explicitly asserts here that getting the surgery should not be a
prerequisite to being accepted as a woman.
ISTM Alex wants to be accepted as a woman on the basis of claiming to
be a woman and dressing in women's clothing and wearing jewelry
alone, never mind the beard, the male voice or the male reproductive
Yes, I understand the assertions, but assertions are not necessarily
congruent with reality.
Our reality now contains not merely a lot of people who now believe
this, but a lot of institutional capture.
Virtually every group that formerly campaigned for gay rights now seems
to have bought most or all of these beliefs about what it means to be
transgender, which has led to gays and lesbians being accused of
transphobia for simply acting on their same-sex preferences (e.g.
lesbians refusing to date transwomen who have penises).
Most of our political parties have bought this stuff, most especially
the Greens and Lib Dems, plus Labour (but with internal resistance),
plus the SNP (with some internal resistance), and even the Tories LGBT
group has bought it. The ascent of Boris has perhaps seen the Tories
retreat a bit from it though.
Stonewall, Mermaids and other such groups have also been advising
numerous public authorities on these issues including the NHS, schools,
universities and the police.
Google UK recently urged people to sign a petition to the government to
ask them to carry on with gender recognition act reform (i.e. changes to
allow gender self identification).
I believe there have been a few people who have
Post by Joe
asserted that they were reincarnations of Napoleon, but saying so did
not make it true.
Indeed - but this is a bit different. They're redefining the language so
that terms such as man and woman become a matter of one's state of mind
rather than an objectively determined categorisation.