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Dear Boris, NHS Scotland A&E services treat more than 90% within target despite 17% increase in demand and 15% more than NHS England can
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Farmer Giles
2019-10-02 17:54:27 UTC
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There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
Custos Custodum
2019-10-03 15:32:25 UTC
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There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Farmer Giles
2019-10-03 17:15:48 UTC
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There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations

Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland, and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Custos Custodum
2019-10-07 21:34:38 UTC
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There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
Farmer Giles
2019-10-08 08:51:55 UTC
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https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2019/10/01/dear-boris-nhs-scotland-ae-services-treat-more-than-90-within-target-despite-17-increase-in-demand-and-15-more-than-nhs-england-can/
There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Eh?
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Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience a
great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at university
have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not a good
example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
You know nothing of immigration in Scotland - the vast majority of
immigrants simply don't want to go there, and Scots themselves are too
busy migrating elsewhere. Your views will mean something when Edinburgh
becomes minority white.

But why shouldn't people object to their country and way of life being
deliberately transformed into something they do not want, and have not
been asked if they want?
Farmer Giles
2019-10-08 10:18:59 UTC
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There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Eh?
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Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience a
great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at university
have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not a good
example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
You know nothing of immigration in Scotland - the vast majority of
immigrants simply don't want to go there, and Scots themselves are too
busy migrating elsewhere. Your views will mean something when Edinburgh
becomes minority white.
But why shouldn't people object to their country and way of life being
deliberately transformed into something they do not want, and have not
been asked if they want?
Hmmm....I wonder whether a Muslim majority Scotchland wooed ban the kilt for on the grounds of sexual deviancy and for women on the grounds of immodesty.... RH
I'm sure that the majority of Scots have as much dread of that scenario
as we do, Robert, it's just the English-hating faction that claims to
want more immigration.

They claim that because they know that the vast majority of immigrants
don't want to and won't go there, and that in making such noises they
can attack the English in the process by labelling those who sensibly
object to the 'Transformation' as 'racists'.
RH156RH
2019-10-09 18:28:20 UTC
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https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2019/10/01/dear-boris-nhs-scotland-ae-services-treat-more-than-90-within-target-despite-17-increase-in-demand-and-15-more-than-nhs-england-can/
There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Eh?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience a
great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at university
have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not a good
example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
You know nothing of immigration in Scotland - the vast majority of
immigrants simply don't want to go there, and Scots themselves are too
busy migrating elsewhere. Your views will mean something when Edinburgh
becomes minority white.
But why shouldn't people object to their country and way of life being
deliberately transformed into something they do not want, and have not
been asked if they want?
Hmmm....I wonder whether a Muslim majority Scotchland wooed ban the kilt for on the grounds of sexual deviancy and for women on the grounds of immodesty.... RH
I'm sure that the majority of Scots have as much dread of that scenario
as we do, Robert, it's just the English-hating faction that claims to
want more immigration.
They claim that because they know that the vast majority of immigrants
don't want to and won't go there, and that in making such noises they
can attack the English in the process by labelling those who sensibly
object to the 'Transformation' as 'racists'.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/09/snp-justice-minister-consider-scrapping-not-proven-verdict-scottish/

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The SNP's Justice Minister is to consider scrapping the not proven verdict in Scottish criminal trials after landmark research said this could tip jurors towards finding more accused guilty.

Humza Yousaf said he would hold "serious discussions" about moving to a "two verdicts system" following a major study into how Scottish juries reach decisions.

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Women's groups have demanded the "confusing" verdict be abandoned as it is returned disproportionately in sexual violence cases and gives juries an 'easy out' when reaching a decision.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/09/snp-justice-minister-consider-scrapping-not-proven-verdict-scottish/
Custos Custodum
2019-10-27 14:49:54 UTC
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https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2019/10/01/dear-boris-nhs-scotland-ae-services-treat-more-than-90-within-target-despite-17-increase-in-demand-and-15-more-than-nhs-england-can/
There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Eh?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience a
great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at university
have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not a good
example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
You know nothing of immigration in Scotland - the vast majority of
immigrants simply don't want to go there, and Scots themselves are too
busy migrating elsewhere. Your views will mean something when Edinburgh
becomes minority white.
But why shouldn't people object to their country and way of life being
deliberately transformed into something they do not want, and have not
been asked if they want?
Hmmm....I wonder whether a Muslim majority Scotchland wooed ban the kilt for on the grounds of sexual deviancy and for women on the grounds of immodesty.... RH
I'm sure that the majority of Scots have as much dread of that scenario
as we do, Robert, it's just the English-hating faction that claims to
want more immigration.
Bollox.
Post by Farmer Giles
They claim that because they know that the vast majority of immigrants
don't want to and won't go there, and that in making such noises they
can attack the English in the process by labelling those who sensibly
object to the 'Transformation' as 'racists'.
Slurp, slurp!
Custos Custodum
2019-10-27 14:46:51 UTC
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https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2019/10/01/dear-boris-nhs-scotland-ae-services-treat-more-than-90-within-target-despite-17-increase-in-demand-and-15-more-than-nhs-england-can/
There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Eh?
The behavioural clues are all there. You only have to join the dots to
complete the picture.
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Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience a
great of hostility.
Compared to what? The population of England, or of Scotland? I can
think of at least a couple of dozen in the last place I worked. Some
came north when the company relocated but most were more recent hires.
I don't recall any of them expressing any great concern about hostile
natives, and so far I know of only one who went back south when he
retired, presumably for family reasons. His son still lives locally,
however. Hostility is a door that swings both ways and if I thought
that u.p.m was a representative sample of the English population, I'd
say you had an even bigger problem.
Post by Farmer Giles
Those that do go to Scotland to study at university
have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not a good
example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
No, it's an example of an EU ruling. You may have noticed that
Scottish students at English universities have to pay fees. Maybe both
countries should apply a "quid pro quo"?
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and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
You know nothing of immigration in Scotland - the vast majority of
immigrants simply don't want to go there, and Scots themselves are too
busy migrating elsewhere.
We already have a sizeable Polish population with immigrant businesses
springing up to service it. I believe we have also taken in more than
our pro rata share of Syrian refugees, most of whom appear grateful to
be here.
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Your views will mean something when Edinburgh
becomes minority white.
Your pal Henderson claims (erroneously) that it is already an English
city.
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But why shouldn't people object to their country and way of life being
deliberately transformed into something they do not want, and have not
been asked if they want?
That applies on so many levels.
Alan Smaill
2019-10-28 12:37:52 UTC
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Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience
a great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at
university have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not
a good example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
"everyone else from the EU": the current EU law is that
students from *another EU state* have to pay the same fees as local
students.

England is not an EU state, it is part of an EU state, the UK of GB&NI.
So this law does not apply to non-Scottish UK students studyimg in Scotland.

The present situation is the Scottish students who study in England
end up with responsibility for ~£9K pa fees, and English students
studying in Scotland likewise. What's unfair about that?

(The degrees in Scotland are typically 1 year longer, but
only 3 years of fees are charged on a 4 year degree.
Nothing unfair about that.)

The German internal states/lander can similarly charge different fees,
though most of them I believe do not charge fees.
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Farmer Giles
2019-10-28 19:20:28 UTC
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Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Comparatively few do that - and, of those that do, many do experience
a great of hostility. Those that do go to Scotland to study at
university have to pay, unlike everyone else from the EU. Is that not
a good example of anti-Englishness, and at the highest level?
"everyone else from the EU": the current EU law is that
students from *another EU state* have to pay the same fees as local
students.
England is not an EU state, it is part of an EU state, the UK of GB&NI.
So this law does not apply to non-Scottish UK students studyimg in Scotland.
That is a very inventive way of trying to excuse blatant discrimination.
England is as much a part of the EU as Germany or Italy, the fact that
English students have to pay in Scotland when someone from those
countries doesn't is just another example of Scottish and SNP
anti-Englishness.
Post by Alan Smaill
The present situation is the Scottish students who study in England
end up with responsibility for ~£9K pa fees, and English students
studying in Scotland likewise. What's unfair about that?
Nothing. Scottish students in England pay exactly the same as English
students, it is the reverse that is unfair.

Incubus
2019-10-08 10:48:35 UTC
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https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2019/10/01/dear-boris-nhs-scotland-ae-services-treat-more-than-90-within-target-despite-17-increase-in-demand-and-15-more-than-nhs-england-can/
There were 152,353 attendances at A&E services in Scotland.
90.6% of attendances at A&E services were admitted, transferred or
discharged within 4 hours.
1,406 (1%) patients spent more than 8 hours in an A&E department.
354 (0.2%) patients spent more than 12 hours in an A&E department.
Thus, 99% treated within 8-hour target.
Demand has increased from 129 838 in February 2019 to 152 353 in August.
https://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Emergency-Care/Publications/2019-10-01/Summary/index.asp
NHS England A&E Type 1 services treated only 78.3% in 4 hours.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/ae-attendances-and-emergency-admissions-2019-20/
What a sad little person you are, spending every waking hour looking for
some way to spew out your venomous hated of England and the English.
You could say much the same about your hero, Henderson, wrt Scotland
and the Scots. But you won't. Why is that, I wonder?
Because he doesn't, but even if he did it would only be a reaction to
the anti-English venom which has been coming the other way for generations
"Every waking hour" may be a bit hyperbolic, but there's no doubt that
he spends a lot of time trawling through the tory press looking for
articles that show Scotland in a bad light. Why would anyone with his
self-proclaimed "superior intellect" want to engage in tit-for-tat
games with a minority of the Scottish population? (Apart from the fact
that his condition compels him to do it.)
Post by Farmer Giles
Do you deny that hating the English is endemic in Scotland,
Of course I do. Where it exists, it is largely confined to particular
social and IQ groupings. It is certainly nowhere nearly prevalent
enough to be considered "endemic". Why would so many English people
move north to work, study, raise their families and generally enjoy a
better quality of life if they felt there would be ongoing hostility?
Post by Farmer Giles
and that
Scottish nationalism is little more than anti-Englishness?
Unlike its English counterpart, Scottish nationalism is inclusive in
nature. We welcome incomers, regardless of where they are from. How
many Brexiters cited immigration as at least one of their reasons for
voting to leave the EU?
That wasn't my experience of living in Scotland. Pro-SNP people resented my
presence there.

I also remember distinctly anti-English comments by Alex Salmond on STV News
before he realised he needed to tone down his rhetoric. This was in the early
1990s.

I don't mind that so much; Scottish Nationalists are not required to want me in
Scotland. It's more the hypocrisy of the SNP position on EU membership along
with projecting their resentment onto us. I'm sure there are reasonable SNP
members but we don't tend to get to hear from them all that often.
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