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Kung Flu mutating BECAUSE of the vaccine?
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Byker
2021-08-01 18:21:53 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691

It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys" who
are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."

If that turns out to be the case, will Dr. Fauxci and the CDC backpedal and
say, "Oops, we had it all wrong"? Yeah, SURE.

Now the loonie Left is pushing for a FEDERAL vaccination mandate, where you
eventually won't be able to do ANYTHING unless your Covid shot record is up
to date.

Enjoy your future, little snowflakes. I've lived a full life. Yours is just
getting started. I wish you the best of luck. You're gonna be needing it...
Rod Speed
2021-08-01 19:32:45 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

<reams of even sillier shit flushed where it belongs>
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-01 21:47:31 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-03 13:41:44 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-23 16:21:28 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-25 18:38:53 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-25 19:36:40 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-08-25 19:39:57 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-09-07 00:05:05 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.
Text-Drivers R Killers
2021-09-07 00:05:23 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the vaccinated.
Bullshit it does with the indian and RSA and Brazilian variants that matter
most.
Post by Byker
Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto "typhoid Marys"
who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the latest "variant."
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
If a weak stupid old fool like Trump can survive COVID, anybody can.

Better to get it than take an experimental vaccine that will spread the
virus, make you sterile and half the time set you to go crazy with your AR 15
out front of a Trump rally, I guess.

Mainspring
2021-08-02 02:44:13 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.

Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-02 03:59:58 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’

https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Rod Speed
2021-08-02 05:13:18 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...

Cant explain Brazil and India.
Orni Thopter
2021-08-02 05:17:22 UTC
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Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
Stuart Bramhall is a kook and also not an epidemiologist. Ignore.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-02 05:22:16 UTC
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https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
Stuart Bramhall is a kook and also not an epidemiologist. Ignore.
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Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-02 05:22:59 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 15:13:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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Post by Mainspring
There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some nobel prize winner claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
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Byker
2021-08-02 21:34:52 UTC
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Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
What came first, the vaccine or the Delta variant?
Siri Cruise
2021-08-02 22:47:19 UTC
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Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-
covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
What came first, the vaccine or the Delta variant?
Who knows? The mutation had to be present before it could be
selected against by the vaccine. Variations occur before they can
be selected or whether they will be selected.
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Rod Speed
2021-08-03 02:27:28 UTC
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Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
What came first, the vaccine or the Delta variant?
Mindlessly superficial. What matters is that fuck all of those
in India were vaccinated when the Delta variant showed up.
Mainspring
2021-08-03 05:03:28 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.

Just proves you can have a Nobel prize and STILL be
an idiot.

I'll have to check, was this guys prize for poetry or
something ? :-)

Darwin rules. India and S.A. have large packed-in
populations. ANY spreading advantage and it becomes
super-amplified.

In the western world, Delta IS causing massive
infections - and in some places hospitalizations.
A very expensive variant. Still most of the
afflicted ARE anti-vaxxers ... and at this point,
well, they kinda get what they deserve.

Trump didn't do Warp Speed for nothing, and certainly
not just for 'socialists'. GET the goddamned vax - and
a booster as soon as possible. Several decent countries
are already set to offer boosters. Can increase your
resistance up to TEN TIMES.

Meanwhile, Australia has gone full gulag - having
been totally slack on the vax. At some point there
is going to be a general insurrection - and some
home-made guillotines ....

Oz is TOO LATE, TOO far behind the vax curve. Delta
is the total undoing of its gulag strategy. It has
already surpassed 'critical mass' infection levels.
Delta is going to sweep the unvaccinated populace.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-03 06:56:48 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
If you'd read the article above you would know that the variants in
question started AFTER the clinical trials of the vaccine.

https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1
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Just proves you can have a Nobel prize and STILL be
an idiot.
Just proves you are a raging idiot, but I will nominate you for the
Nobel prize for Leftwing Looniness 2021.
Post by Mainspring
I'll have to check, was this guys prize for poetry or
something ? :-)
Something that you have no knowledge of .
Rod Speed
2021-08-03 10:08:42 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
If you'd read the article above you would know that the variants
in question started AFTER the clinical trials of the vaccine.
But the bad variants didn’t show up where the clinical trials were done.
Post by Kurt Nicklas
https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1
Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-03 10:09:36 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
If you'd read the article above you would know that the variants
in question started AFTER the clinical trials of the vaccine.
But the bad variants didn’t show up where the clinical trials were done.
Evidence?
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Kurt Nicklas
https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1
Rod Speed
2021-08-03 11:17:03 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
If you'd read the article above you would know that the variants
in question started AFTER the clinical trials of the vaccine.
But the bad variants didn’t show up where the clinical trials were done.
Evidence?
The clinical trials were not done in the RSA, Brazil or India.
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https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1
Dechucka
2021-08-03 20:51:18 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
If you'd read the article above you would know that the variants
in question started AFTER the clinical trials of the vaccine.
But the bad variants didn’t show up where the clinical trials were done.
Evidence?
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Kurt Nicklas
https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
https://www.aap.com.au/french-nobel-laureate-falsely-credited-with-faux-vaccine-quote/
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https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1
Interpretation ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 has an acceptable safety profile
and has been found to be efficacious against symptomatic
COVID-19 in this interim analysis of ongoing clinical trials.
Rod Speed
2021-08-03 06:57:46 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Just because some fool claims something...
Cant explain Brazil and India.
That's my point ..NEITHER place had vaccine fer shit,
yet that's where the two most toxic variants came from.
Just proves you can have a Nobel prize and STILL be an idiot.
I'll have to check, was this guys prize for poetry or
something ? :-)
For discovering the HIV virus. Doesn’t mean
he got that other stupid claim right tho.
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Darwin rules. India and S.A. have large packed-in populations. ANY
spreading advantage and it becomes super-amplified.
In the western world, Delta IS causing massive
infections - and in some places hospitalizations.
A very expensive variant. Still most of the
afflicted ARE anti-vaxxers ... and at this point,
well, they kinda get what they deserve.
Trump didn't do Warp Speed for nothing, and certainly
not just for 'socialists'. GET the goddamned vax - and
a booster as soon as possible. Several decent countries
are already set to offer boosters. Can increase your
resistance up to TEN TIMES.
Meanwhile, Australia has gone full gulag
Nope, not even Greater Sydney.
Post by Mainspring
- having been totally slack on the vax.
That’s wrong too. They picked the wrong vaccine
which has real downsides and haven't got enough
of the best vaccines yet.
Post by Mainspring
At some point there is going to be a general insurrection - and some
home-made guillotines ....
Nope. We stamped out the second attempt at
a big protest in Sydney very effectively indeed.
Post by Mainspring
Oz is TOO LATE, TOO far behind the vax curve.
But has still got a vastly better result than the
USA or the UK have got, essentially because
we shut down the borders much more effectively
than they did and still have that now.
Post by Mainspring
Delta is the total undoing of its gulag strategy.
Nope, the problem is that Sydney was locked down much
too late and with other terminal stupiditys like leaving it
to individuals to decide if they were essential workers or
not. There isn't even a curfew like Melbourne had.
Post by Mainspring
It has already surpassed 'critical mass' infection levels.
Delta is going to sweep the unvaccinated populace.
Bet it doesn’t.
Mainspring
2021-08-03 04:50:40 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Ignore that crap.
Kurt Nicklas
2021-08-03 04:59:12 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Ignore that crap.
https://tinyurl.com/ukxw2ekf
Mainspring
2021-08-04 04:39:01 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Ignore that crap.
https://tinyurl.com/ukxw2ekf
Ignore all that crap. Prize winners are often a bit 'teched.
Ultra-high IQ can have side-effects.

India and S.America had DICK in the way of vaccines, ergo
vaccines had DICK to do with the emergence of these nasty
new variants. We haven't seen any nasty new variants from
Israel or the UK, US or anyplace else where there were
aggressive and early vaccination programs. Reality trumps
the professional fearmongers and genocidalists.
Rod Speed
2021-08-04 04:55:44 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
Ignore that crap.
https://tinyurl.com/ukxw2ekf
Ignore all that crap. Prize winners are often a bit 'teched.
Ultra-high IQ can have side-effects.
Turns out that claim of his is fake, he didn’t make it.
Post by Mainspring
India and S.America had DICK in the way of vaccines, ergo
vaccines had DICK to do with the emergence of these nasty
new variants. We haven't seen any nasty new variants from
Israel or the UK, US or anyplace else where there were
aggressive and early vaccination programs.
The Kent variant was in fact quite successful, just not particularly fatal.

No evidence that vaccination had anything to do with it tho.
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Reality trumps the professional fearmongers and genocidalists.
Fran
2021-08-04 06:31:36 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/
   Ignore that crap.
https://tinyurl.com/ukxw2ekf
  Ignore all that crap. Prize winners are often a bit 'teched.
  Ultra-high IQ can have side-effects.
  India and S.America had DICK in the way of vaccines, ergo
  vaccines had DICK to do with the emergence of these nasty
  new variants. We haven't seen any nasty new variants from
  Israel or the UK, US or anyplace else where there were
  aggressive and early vaccination programs.
The Alpha variant came out of the UK and at the time it was a worry.

India is also doing reasonably well with their vaccination program. They
started mass vaccination a month after the USA but have put over 100
million more doses into arms than the US has according to 'Our world of
Data.'

US mass vaccination start date: 14 December 2020
India: 16 January 2021.

Doses administered (according to "Our World of data")
US 347 Million
India 472 Million.
Byker
2021-08-04 19:33:48 UTC
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India is also doing reasonably well with their vaccination program. They
started mass vaccination a month after the USA but have put over 100
million more doses into arms than the US has according to 'Our world of
Data.'
In Hindooland they're dying like flies.

Death toll so far? About 4-5 million:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-covid-19-death-toll-is-likely-in-the-millions-study-finds-11626792531

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-07-21/covid-19-may-have-claimed-as-many-as-5-million-lives-in-india

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/07/20/1018438334/indias-pandemic-death-toll-estimated-at-about-4-million-10-times-the-official-co
A. Filip
2021-08-02 06:25:39 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
"Two most relevant variants" are fitted *very* well for vaccinated
countries, don't they? Vaccination created different virus habitat.
We must assume that Covid-19 *CAN* survive in it.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

My impressions about current vaccine sales pitch:
+ covid-19 vaccines offer *better* protection especially against
hospitalisation/death [lowered protection level in sales pitch]
+ covid-19 vaccines would be "time limited measure"
with re-immunisation required every year (six months?)

IMHO it looks that "new flu" scenario is quite likely with
new variants and new vaccines yearly. It seems that vaccines
can not stop covid-19, they can "merely" make it like
the worst flu of two decades.
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A. Filip
2021-08-02 06:31:40 UTC
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There was essentially zero vaccine in India and
S.America - yet that's where the two most relevant
variants came from.
Viruses are simply unstable. They have no self-repair
mechanisms. Mutations appear constantly. As per Darwin,
if a mutation can spread faster it rapidly becomes
dominant. 999 other mutations likely also appear, but
if they can't compete they are rapidly buried.
"Two most relevant variants" are fitted *very* well for vaccinated
countries, don't they? Vaccination created different virus habitat.
We must assume that Covid-19 *CAN* survive in it.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
+ covid-19 vaccines offer *better* protection especially against
hospitalisation/death [lowered protection level in sales pitch]
+ covid-19 vaccines would be "time limited measure"
with re-immunisation required every year (six months?)
IMHO it looks that "new flu" scenario is quite likely with
new variants and new vaccines yearly. It seems that vaccines
can not stop covid-19, they can "merely" make it like
the worst flu of two decades.
BTW Covid-19 passports prefer faster international spread of more
vaccine resistant variants. It may be good idea anyway *BUT BE AWARE* .
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| Dijkstra probably hates me. (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c)
Byker
2021-08-02 21:35:08 UTC
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IMHO it looks that "new flu" scenario is quite likely with new variants
and new vaccines yearly.
Try every five or six months, along with all the required "boosters".

Historically, most epidemics run their course and burn out within six months
to a year. The Kung Flu, like the Energizer bunny, just keeps going and
going and going...
Rod Speed
2021-08-03 02:31:57 UTC
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IMHO it looks that "new flu" scenario is quite likely with new variants
and new vaccines yearly.
Try every five or six months, along with all the required "boosters".
Historically, most epidemics run their course and burn out within six
months to a year.
Mindless pig ignorant bullshit with all of smallpox, the bubonic plague,
polio,
measles, whooping cough, the spanish flu, ebola, HIV/AIDS etc etc etc.
Post by Byker
The Kung Flu, like the Energizer bunny, just keeps going and going and
going...
So did all of smallpox, the bubonic plague, polio, measles,
whooping cough, the spanish flu, ebola, HIV/AIDS etc etc
etc until we stomped on most of them with a viable vaccine.
Byker
2021-08-03 16:20:03 UTC
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/955691
It's interesting that each new variant first appears among the
vaccinated. Looks like those who took the shot are becoming de facto
"typhoid Marys" who are asymptomatic but fully capable of spreading the
latest "variant."
um, the Alpha variant appeared in an "immunocompromised individual". So
that prompted right-wing bigots to claim it was due to faggots with AIDS.
They hit out at anybody they don't like.
Did they "hit out" at cancer patients undergoing chemo?
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